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PostPosted: Sun May 09, 2021 7:17 pm 
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Cripps, Saad, Williams, McGovern & Martin.

When our 5 HIGHEST paid players contribute nothing today, it's actually very surprising we got so close.


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PostPosted: Sun May 09, 2021 7:20 pm 
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Did we run out of puff? They had 2 more days rest than us

That's all I can come up with. That whole game was just one giant WTF just happened moment

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I think Bulldogs just stepped up their urgency and went through the roof and half our guys gave up half way through the last.

I'll drop some players after that result. Fogarty not tackling enough and not kicking any goals past three weeks is a straight drop for mine.

Jack will get a spell - Williams and Saad need to step it up. Especially Williams has been stinking it up looks injured.
Fogarty kicked 2 last week but agree we need to drop a couple for Melbourne

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PostPosted: Sun May 09, 2021 7:27 pm 
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Heroes from last week Saad and Walsh both looked spent.


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PostPosted: Sun May 09, 2021 7:31 pm 
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billc3 wrote:
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Does our ineptitude mean we forget about the first-quarter umpiring ineptitude which cost us three goals?
This...
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missing 3 sitters and we would have been 40 up...
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Weiters, Jones and Harry can't do it without a midfield...


Go Blues!


Just got home from the team , thankfully I got free tickets !!

How werent we 7 goals up in the 3rd qtr ??!!

I want this answered by the club this week ...

Wtf is wrong with cripps ,!! He should be rested , dropped but at least out of the side !!
How is Zak Williams getting a game ahead of Dow , sps and setterfield ??
How can Zak Williams not make the distance form 35
Metres out directly in front ??
How can we lose composure from the moment docherty tackles the bont ??
How can we continually let teams kick continuous goals against without stopping momentum ??

Oh and have I mentioned how Williams is getting a game

And I want a announcement this week that Murphy has retired ....

I await the club’s responses on my important questions !!

Oh and for the supporters who said we done we’ll for 2 and half qtrs get a grip !!

At least we know the season is over , phew the anguish won’t be as stressful for the next 16 weeks won’t be stressful anymore

And I can enjoy my sons playing local senior footy ... who are having a good year and at least give a shit !!

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PostPosted: Sun May 09, 2021 7:37 pm 
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Teague needs to go. He reminds me of Frank Lampard (without the stellar career), he’s just out of his depth.

Hated him at North but what’s Scott doing? Or Voss. Seriously I could do a job this shit

Perfectly summed up !!

At least lampard gave Chelsea success as a player

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PostPosted: Sun May 09, 2021 7:46 pm 
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They bat deeper with their midfield and football smartsd


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PostPosted: Sun May 09, 2021 7:51 pm 
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dadadadada wrote:
They bat deeper with their midfield and football smartsd


Sorry don’t agree with that

The big difference , is mentality

We are weak and dogs have a strong mental attitude to win

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PostPosted: Sun May 09, 2021 7:54 pm 
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Frustration at being good enough but again 5hitting the bed against top sides in last qtrs like against the Pies and GWS when finals were on the line last year. 5 goal lead means we are good enough against anyone, last qtr tells us there's a mental issue against good sides when leading. Cost us finals last year, costly again this year.


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PostPosted: Sun May 09, 2021 7:55 pm 
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azzablue wrote:
dadadadada wrote:
They bat deeper with their midfield and football smartsd


Sorry don’t agree with that

The big difference , is mentality

We are weak and dogs have a strong mental attitude to win


Last week the Dogs did exactly what we did today.

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PostPosted: Sun May 09, 2021 7:59 pm 
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Trevor Keogh is correct you need midfielders to succeed.

Who are ours? Walsh and that’s all.

Fogarty, Gibbons, Williams, Newnes, Cunningham not the answer unfortunately.

Cripps is a major concern. Martin and Fisher in the team helps marginally.

Add the ruckman Pittonet who has played against novices in consecutive weeks and yet has failed to give us any advantage. An amateur grade ruckman at best.

It would always come back to haunt us.....SOS has failed in the midfield department.


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PostPosted: Sun May 09, 2021 8:12 pm 
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azzablue wrote:
dadadadada wrote:
They bat deeper with their midfield and football smartsd


Sorry don’t agree with that

The big difference , is mentality

We are weak and dogs have a strong mental attitude to win


You lose often enough, it eats into your confidence and self belief

This is a club issue

Losing consistently for 20 years has established a deeply embedded losing culture at Carlton

We have simply forgotten how to win


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PostPosted: Sun May 09, 2021 8:13 pm 
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lucablue wrote:
Cripps, Saad, Williams, McGovern & Martin.

When our 5 HIGHEST paid players contribute nothing today, it's actually very surprising we got so close.


Gosh that's not a good read.

The next wave of players will push past them in 1-3 years time, or the above will hit their straps and put a grin on our face.

Saad was bloody good last week.
This week he was corralled and watched carefully.
Plus we don't play him to his strengths.

He doesn't have a good right foot, so he should be running the ball on the other side of the ground if we want to use him as a weapon.

The backline set up looked wrong.

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PostPosted: Sun May 09, 2021 8:14 pm 
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bondiblue wrote:
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Does our ineptitude mean we forget about the first-quarter umpiring ineptitude which cost us three goals?



When we were running hot the umpires robbed us.

Cost us probably a 5 goal turnaround, but we also let them off when we were dominating with bad decisions and some bad turnovers by hand.


Agree with this.
Next week, amongst other changes, I’d flip Stocker (into the midfield) and Williams (to half back).
I think our best player until half way through the third was ‘Pressure’. When that dropped off a bit, the Bulldogs took advantage.
Need to maintain that high pressure for longer. We need to maintain it even when the opposition lift. And, yes, we need to nail those shots within 30m and 45 degrees.


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PostPosted: Sun May 09, 2021 8:15 pm 
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dablues wrote:
That Saad pass to stocker late in the 3rd was sublime but stocker stuffed his hit up in the middle - turn over and goal. That was the first of the 8 and the turning point in the game. We never got a sniff after that.
Thoroughly agree. Definitely like Stocker in the side but that mistake was so costly and to me was a clear momentum swing along with the missed easy shots.

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PostPosted: Sun May 09, 2021 8:17 pm 
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WOW wrote:
azzablue wrote:
dadadadada wrote:
They bat deeper with their midfield and football smartsd


Sorry don’t agree with that

The big difference , is mentality

We are weak and dogs have a strong mental attitude to win


You lose often enough, it eats into your confidence and self belief

This is a club issue

Losing consistently for 20 years has established a deeply embedded losing culture at Carlton

We have simply forgotten how to win

No
We don’t have the cattle due to shit recruiting and trading
The effort today was terrific
Curnow was his usual self
Walsh was going at 70%
Cripps had a poor game
Where was the rest of the midfield
Either playing at Whitten Oval or not stepping up at Marvel
It’s not one game it’s 6 seasons


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PostPosted: Sun May 09, 2021 8:22 pm 
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Rod Waddell wrote:
Trevor Keogh is correct you need midfielders to succeed.

Who are ours? Walsh and that’s all.

Fogarty, Gibbons, Williams, Newnes, Cunningham not the answer unfortunately.

Cripps is a major concern. Martin and Fisher in the team helps marginally.

Add the ruckman Pittonet who has played against novices in consecutive weeks and yet has failed to give us any advantage. An amateur grade ruckman at best.

It would always come back to haunt us.....SOS has failed in the midfield department.


We need a Taylor Adams and a Merrett ...Treloar wouldve been nice.

All the above have been stop gaps. Williams at HBF till he's in top form there.

Things might change when Martin is back in a couple weeks, and hope Williams fully fit by then.

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PostPosted: Sun May 09, 2021 8:22 pm 
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We are more than good enough to beat most sides just not the top four type teams yet.

Fully expect this team to beat Sydney and West Coast for example. Don't consider them in the upper echelon of teams.

Some tweaks need to be made - we are losing clearances too easily and need this fixed. We get this fixed and get on abit of a roll then anything can happen as this team moves the ball fast and with precision.


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PostPosted: Sun May 09, 2021 8:22 pm 
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keogh wrote:
WOW wrote:
azzablue wrote:
dadadadada wrote:
They bat deeper with their midfield and football smartsd


Sorry don’t agree with that

The big difference , is mentality

We are weak and dogs have a strong mental attitude to win


You lose often enough, it eats into your confidence and self belief

This is a club issue

Losing consistently for 20 years has established a deeply embedded losing culture at Carlton

We have simply forgotten how to win

No
We don’t have the cattle due to shit recruiting and trading
The effort today was terrific
Curnow was his usual self
Walsh was going at 70%
Cripps had a poor game
Where was the rest of the midfield
Either playing at Whitten Oval or not stepping up at Marvel
It’s not one game it’s 6 seasons


Effort was good for 2.75 quarters only. Midfield at Whitten oval is similar to midfield at Marvel.

So end result is a midfield of one - Sam Walsh


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PostPosted: Sun May 09, 2021 8:22 pm 
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azzablue wrote:
dadadadada wrote:
They bat deeper with their midfield and football smartsd


Sorry don’t agree with that

The big difference , is mentality

We are weak and dogs have a strong mental attitude to win


Absolutely correct. We were all over them all around the ground other than center bounces. We simply shat the bed because we are mental pansies and are shit scared of being in a winning position. We just don't know how to win unless we know the opposition is worse than use, but even then we're a good chance to choke it up.

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PostPosted: Sun May 09, 2021 8:26 pm 
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keogh wrote:
WOW wrote:
azzablue wrote:
dadadadada wrote:
They bat deeper with their midfield and football smartsd


Sorry don’t agree with that

The big difference , is mentality

We are weak and dogs have a strong mental attitude to win


You lose often enough, it eats into your confidence and self belief

This is a club issue

Losing consistently for 20 years has established a deeply embedded losing culture at Carlton

We have simply forgotten how to win

No
We don’t have the cattle due to shit recruiting and trading
The effort today was terrific
Curnow was his usual self
Walsh was going at 70%
Cripps had a poor game
Where was the rest of the midfield
Either playing at Whitten Oval or not stepping up at Marvel
It’s not one game it’s 6 seasons


... and questions need to be asked of Russell too.
WE had the Doggies on the roped. The Doggies were forced to turnover, let alone hit with a dose of perceived pressure.

We ran out of gas.
We couldn't sustain the pressure we put on them with our team defence at full pace couldn't go for longer than 2 1/2 Quarters, maybe 3Q.

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