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keogh wrote:

CK95 wrote:

Nick Cox is going to be a star & is already playing well. I don't know what we'll do about him

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Essendon*** got him with pick 8 in the draft
No second guess as to how they acquired pick 8

Maybe do try that second guess. Pick 8 turned into pick 10 on draft night so Bombers actually got Reid with our pick.

Cox looks like a good player though.

Worth noting we also landed Durdin as part of the Saad trade (pick 48 and next years 3rd rounder went to the Swans for 31) so will be interesting to see how he progresses.

CK95 wrote:

Nick Cox is going to be a star & is already playing well. I don't know what we'll do about him

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Essendon** got him with pick 8 in the draft
No second guess as to how they acquired pick 8

Actually been watching Saad. Especially last week. He is often alone and ignored when we have the ball.

Poor coaching IMO.

17th Premiership wrote:

I think this is a window into how harsh we are on our own players, and the halo effect we apply to others outside our AFL team (including our VFL players who somehow become game-breakers that should immediately be brought into the seniors even though they have repeatedly failed).

Perception is reality.

There is a bit of that 17th.
We watch our players closer than others do, and vice versa, and we feel every mistake they make, and it sticks in our memory banks, for a long long time.

All players make mistakes. Ditto List managers and Board Members and Coaches....but not you and me.

Who else is annoyed by this?

TheDenominator wrote:

keogh wrote:

CK95 wrote:

Nick Cox is going to be a star & is already playing well. I don't know what we'll do about him

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Essendon**** got him with pick 8 in the draft
No second guess as to how they acquired pick 8

If we had picked him he would either be playing twos or sitting in a forward pocket. For the life of me I can't understand why we went all in on bringing Saad onboard because of his run and carry and then not actually utilise those weapons.

CFC8795 wrote:

What happened to Blue Sombrero?

Essendon** took him with pick 8

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Thursday squads for Sunday games were pretty useless anyway

grrofunger wrote:

Thursday squads for Sunday games were pretty useless anyway

Ours have been pretty useless for 20 years...

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bondiblue wrote:

Who else is annoyed by this?

Absolutely. It's piss poor.
It's not necessarily Carlton but it's indicative of the general attitude of AFL clubs.

I was referring to Reid
Big guy looked ok in round 5

Author:	Heavs [ Fri Apr 30, 2021 3:39 pm ]
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TheDenominator wrote: keogh wrote: CK95 wrote: Nick Cox is going to be a star & is already playing well. I don't know what we'll do about him Sent from my SM-A115F using Tapatalk Essendon*** got him with pick 8 in the draft No second guess as to how they acquired pick 8 Maybe do try that second guess. Pick 8 turned into pick 10 on draft night so Bombers actually got Reid with our pick. Cox looks like a good player though. Worth noting we also landed Durdin as part of the Saad trade (pick 48 and next years 3rd rounder went to the Swans for 31) so will be interesting to see how he progresses. If we had picked him he would either be playing twos or sitting in a forward pocket. For the life of me I can't understand why we went all in on bringing Saad onboard because of his run and carry and then not actually utilise those weapons.

Author:	bluechampion [ Fri Apr 30, 2021 4:37 pm ]
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This is what I'd like to see, as opposed to what we will actually see: Plowman - Jones - Parks Saad - Weitering - Docherty Cottrell - Cunningham - O'Brien SPS - McGovern - Williams Silvagni - McKay - Fogarty Pittonet - Walsh - Stocker Murphy - E. Curnow - Cripps - Betts Sub: Newnes Pitto does the centre bounces and between the arcs, Cripps does most of the forward-line ruck work and Jones does most of the back-line work. McGovern takes three or four centre bounces as a chop-out (not much more than one per quarter). I'd like to see Cripps do centre-bounces then move to full-forward, allowing a more mobile midfield to tackle the around the ground stuff. I know he's hit or miss as a forward, but they're stretched in the backline without Francis, and if he stays deep, with Harry ahead of him and McGovern and Silvagni working hard up the wings, we can open them up. Essendon* love to play from the back and that means that SPS and Williams are going to have to use their defenders instincts to stop that.

Author:	Rod Spooky Galt [ Fri Apr 30, 2021 4:38 pm ]
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Just stack 3 rovers on top of each other in a trenchcoat

Author:	Walsh [ Fri Apr 30, 2021 4:43 pm ]
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keogh wrote: CK95 wrote: Nick Cox is going to be a star & is already playing well. I don't know what we'll do about him Sent from my SM-A115F using Tapatalk Essendon** got him with pick 8 in the draft No second guess as to how they acquired pick 8 It was Zac Reid.

Author:	Teddy Hopkins [ Fri Apr 30, 2021 4:56 pm ]
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Actually been watching Saad. Especially last week. He is often alone and ignored when we have the ball. Poor coaching IMO.

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Author:	Heavs [ Fri Apr 30, 2021 6:11 pm ]
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Teddy Hopkins wrote: Actually been watching Saad. Especially last week. He is often alone and ignored when we have the ball. Poor coaching IMO. He's not a top 5 player. But if we use it he has a top 5 weapon. I just don't understand the thought process in bringing him in to add dangerous run and carry if we don't use it. I mean, we didn't buy the bloke for his lockdown skills.

Author:	CK95 [ Fri Apr 30, 2021 6:25 pm ]
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We haven't had a dynamic player quite like Saad in recent years. He changes the look & feel of our movement big time, & will take a little while to gel with the team & vice versa. Would love it if it all fell into place against his old side on sunday Sent from my SM-A115F using Tapatalk

Author:	bondiblue [ Fri Apr 30, 2021 6:47 pm ]
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Friday night. 6.45pm and not even a @#$%&! squad to look at. Yeah plenty to read about the new draftees for them, but that's it. Its a disgrace and a total disrespect for the past and the culture of the VFL / AFL. Apparently the clubs wanted this. Well I will tell Carlton I will not renew 3 of my family's 4 memberships next year till I hear they announce our teams or squad on a Thursday night. Stuff them, like they stuff me. Plus the other 20 memberships I buy for others. They can wait too. As for my membership.... Who else is annoyed by this?

Author:	grrofunger [ Fri Apr 30, 2021 6:49 pm ]
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Thursday squads for Sunday games were pretty useless anyway

Author:	17th Premiership [ Fri Apr 30, 2021 7:28 pm ]
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bondiblue wrote: 17th Premiership wrote: I think this is a window into how harsh we are on our own players, and the halo effect we apply to others outside our AFL team (including our VFL players who somehow become game-breakers that should immediately be brought into the seniors even though they have repeatedly failed). Perception is reality. There is a bit of that 17th. We watch our players closer than others do, and vice versa, and we feel every mistake they make, and it sticks in our memory banks, for a long long time. All players make mistakes. Ditto List managers and Board Members and Coaches....but not you and me. Thanks BB, much appreciate it and glad you corrected the record. I’m all for constructive criticism and I get that we tend to comment more on the bad stuff than the good (much like most parents do as well). Sometimes, I just think we can be a bit too harsh on our own but happy to be corrected. (Although I do hope that Phillips doesn’t make fools of us on Sunday!) Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

Author:	Blue Vain [ Fri Apr 30, 2021 7:43 pm ]
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bondiblue wrote: Who else is annoyed by this? Absolutely. It's piss poor. It's not necessarily Carlton but it's indicative of the general attitude of AFL clubs.

Author:	azzablue [ Fri Apr 30, 2021 7:45 pm ]
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Heavs wrote: TheDenominator wrote: keogh wrote: CK95 wrote: Nick Cox is going to be a star & is already playing well. I don't know what we'll do about him Sent from my SM-A115F using Tapatalk Essendon**** got him with pick 8 in the draft No second guess as to how they acquired pick 8 Maybe do try that second guess. Pick 8 turned into pick 10 on draft night so Bombers actually got Reid with our pick. Cox looks like a good player though. Worth noting we also landed Durdin as part of the Saad trade (pick 48 and next years 3rd rounder went to the Swans for 31) so will be interesting to see how he progresses. If we had picked him he would either be playing twos or sitting in a forward pocket. For the life of me I can't understand why we went all in on bringing Saad onboard because of his run and carry and then not actually utilise those weapons. Because if you have noticed it’s important that docherty has the ball in his hand , Because we need to keep our turnover count high !! How else are we going to help sides beat us

Author:	Donstuie [ Fri Apr 30, 2021 8:37 pm ]
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CK95 wrote: CFC8795 wrote: What happened to Blue Sombrero? Essendon** took him with pick 8 Sent from my SM-A115F using Tapatalk The Henderson pick?

Author:	CK95 [ Fri Apr 30, 2021 8:42 pm ]
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grrofunger wrote: Thursday squads for Sunday games were pretty useless anyway Ours have been pretty useless for 20 years... Sent from my SM-A115F using Tapatalk

Author:	murraycray [ Sat May 01, 2021 7:57 am ]
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Don't care who's in or who's out, this game is not @#$%&# negotiable. Get out and @#$%&* win it.

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Author:	Heavs [ Fri Apr 30, 2021 8:53 pm ]
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CK95 wrote: grrofunger wrote: Thursday squads for Sunday games were pretty useless anyway Ours have been pretty useless for 20 years... Sent from my SM-A115F using Tapatalk Sad giggle.

Author:	bondiblue [ Fri Apr 30, 2021 9:47 pm ]
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Blue Vain wrote: bondiblue wrote: Who else is annoyed by this? Absolutely. It's piss poor. It's not necessarily Carlton but it's indicative of the general attitude of AFL clubs. We can only influence our club. The rest will follow.

Author:	SurreyBlue [ Fri Apr 30, 2021 10:36 pm ]
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The coaches have way too much say. It just goes on and on...

Author:	kingkerna [ Sat May 01, 2021 12:15 am ]
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keogh wrote: I was referring to Reid Big guy looked ok in round 5 Of course you were Sent from my SM-G986B using Tapatalk

Author:	Blue Vain [ Sat May 01, 2021 7:06 am ]
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Parks should return to the defence. The move of SPS out of the backline for Stocker was OK but Newnes into the defensive rotation wasn't successful. It will be interesting to see if Newnes returns to his offensive wing role or if he cops it in the neck for his effort last week.