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PostPosted: Wed Apr 28, 2021 9:05 pm 
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I think you're onto something there 99.

He has to.

He should have forged plenty of ideas over the preseason...

.had 6 months to do so.

Yes He had 6 months and he new we were getting Williams and Saad and we still can’t take advantage of their strengths


And he's had 6 months to sort out these daydreamiing periods within a game we have

And he's had 6 months to think about whether it's better for young players to build a foundation in their natural (TAC) positions, then experiment in other positions or the other way round

And he had 6 months to reflect on an official mentor to work with the coaches

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PostPosted: Wed Apr 28, 2021 9:10 pm 
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Agree (in part) with Rod Spooky. Whilst maybe not for this game I have always liked the idea of trialling Jones in the ruck. His kamikaze style would fit that role I think - be a tough additional player in congestion, huge leap, big tackles, polish not so important, can help out the backline...
Wonder what Mc G would look like down back, Jones in the ruck (or back up when TDK gets going...)


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PostPosted: Wed Apr 28, 2021 10:22 pm 
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Arnhem blues wrote:
Agree (in part) with Rod Spooky. Whilst maybe not for this game I have always liked the idea of trialling Jones in the ruck. His kamikaze style would fit that role I think - be a tough additional player in congestion, huge leap, big tackles, polish not so important, can help out the backline...
Wonder what Mc G would look like down back, Jones in the ruck (or back up when TDK gets going...)


That's a convincing case you put.

In that case lets target Ben McKay or another KPD as successor for Jones' now.

Not so silly.

There's afew KPD's worth targeting end of the year

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PostPosted: Thu Apr 29, 2021 7:51 am 
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I wonder if Setterfield is being considered this week for an inside role in the midfield.
I like the way he attacked the ball and man on the weekend. Stark difference from past 3 games he played.

Chop out for Crippa?
Maybe some extra big bodies in the midfield vs Effendruggies*

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PostPosted: Thu Apr 29, 2021 8:16 am 
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Arnhem blues wrote:
Agree (in part) with Rod Spooky. Whilst maybe not for this game I have always liked the idea of trialling Jones in the ruck. His kamikaze style would fit that role I think - be a tough additional player in congestion, huge leap, big tackles, polish not so important, can help out the backline...
Wonder what Mc G would look like down back, Jones in the ruck (or back up when TDK gets going...)


Jones is bordering on AA form.
You move players who are struggling in their current role. You don't move players who are performing at a high level.
Richmond did it with Balta and it resulted in his form going backwards.

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PostPosted: Thu Apr 29, 2021 10:07 am 
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bondiblue wrote:
I wonder if Setterfield is being considered this week for an inside role in the midfield.
I like the way he attacked the ball and man on the weekend. Stark difference from past 3 games he played.

Chop out for Crippa?
Maybe some extra big bodies in the midfield vs Effendruggies*


The problem is if Setterfield plays more inside midfield time then where does Cripps play? I could be wrong but it’s when the ball gets to outside that our problems occur, having two inside mids on the ball at the sametime wouldn’t fix that problem and where else do we hide Cripps?


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PostPosted: Thu Apr 29, 2021 10:10 am 
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Blue Vain wrote:
Arnhem blues wrote:
Agree (in part) with Rod Spooky. Whilst maybe not for this game I have always liked the idea of trialling Jones in the ruck. His kamikaze style would fit that role I think - be a tough additional player in congestion, huge leap, big tackles, polish not so important, can help out the backline...
Wonder what Mc G would look like down back, Jones in the ruck (or back up when TDK gets going...)


Jones is bordering on AA form.
You move players who are struggling in their current role. You don't move players who are performing at a high level.
Richmond did it with Balta and it resulted in his form going backwards.


Playing Jones in the ruck in the VFL was what turned his career around and allowed him to regain confidence so I don’t think it would affect his form. But I do agree with you that it’s a bad idea to move him out of defence where he is doing well.

Like you said better to move Guv around as he’s not having much impact anyway and could benefit from being more involved for more of the game.


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PostPosted: Thu Apr 29, 2021 10:39 am 
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sinbagger wrote:
bondiblue wrote:
I wonder if Setterfield is being considered this week for an inside role in the midfield.
I like the way he attacked the ball and man on the weekend. Stark difference from past 3 games he played.

Chop out for Crippa?
Maybe some extra big bodies in the midfield vs Effendruggies*


The problem is if Setterfield plays more inside midfield time then where does Cripps play? I could be wrong but it’s when the ball gets to outside that our problems occur, having two inside mids on the ball at the sametime wouldn’t fix that problem and where else do we hide Cripps?


You're a guru sinbagger

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“Then there’s Will Setterfield who’s now on a wing who can go inside.”


https://www.sen.com.au/news/2021/04/28/stars-on-every-line-ross-lyon-defends-carltons-drafting-calls/

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PostPosted: Thu Apr 29, 2021 2:48 pm 
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Nick Cox is going to be a star & is already playing well. I don't know what we'll do about him

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PostPosted: Thu Apr 29, 2021 2:58 pm 
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Nick Cox is going to be a star & is already playing well. I don't know what we'll do about him

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Hopefully, Saad stars for us!


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PostPosted: Thu Apr 29, 2021 2:58 pm 
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Nick Cox is going to be a star & is already playing well. I don't know what we'll do about him


Are you saying he's Hot,Cox?

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PostPosted: Thu Apr 29, 2021 3:09 pm 
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CK95 wrote:
Nick Cox is going to be a star & is already playing well. I don't know what we'll do about him

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He's a conundrum.

On the one hand, you'd hope to see him exposed and beaten.

But then again he's easily a two hander - possibly three.

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PostPosted: Thu Apr 29, 2021 3:15 pm 
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Blue Vain wrote:
CK95 wrote:
Nick Cox is going to be a star & is already playing well. I don't know what we'll do about him


Are you saying he's Hot,Cox?
Hahaha I see what you did there

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PostPosted: Thu Apr 29, 2021 4:30 pm 
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CK95 wrote:
Nick Cox is going to be a star & is already playing well. I don't know what we'll do about him

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Star?

He's good out in the open and can take a grab.

The thing about young unknowns is that they're given latitide.

Need someone to body up on him....and

for all Carlton players to get in their heads Lamb style. Not just Cox. Put them off.

Let them know we've got them marked and no easy ball....and do it.

Pies were too loose and disrespectful (Waiting for BV pun here)

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PostPosted: Thu Apr 29, 2021 7:09 pm 
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bondiblue wrote:
Pies were too loose and disrespectful (Waiting for BV pun here)


Nah, no pun. :lol:
You may recall Hotcox was a previous poster that provided CK with a few laughs. Many moons ago.
I was just delving back in the archive. :thumbsup:

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PostPosted: Thu Apr 29, 2021 8:39 pm 
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Blue Vain wrote:
bondiblue wrote:
Pies were too loose and disrespectful (Waiting for BV pun here)


Nah, no pun. :lol:
You may recall Hotcox was a previous poster that provided CK with a few laughs. Many moons ago.
I was just delving back in the archive. :thumbsup:


Yes, Hotcox.
I do remember.

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PostPosted: Thu Apr 29, 2021 9:45 pm 
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sinbagger wrote:
Blue Vain wrote:
Arnhem blues wrote:
Agree (in part) with Rod Spooky. Whilst maybe not for this game I have always liked the idea of trialling Jones in the ruck. His kamikaze style would fit that role I think - be a tough additional player in congestion, huge leap, big tackles, polish not so important, can help out the backline...
Wonder what Mc G would look like down back, Jones in the ruck (or back up when TDK gets going...)


Jones is bordering on AA form.
You move players who are struggling in their current role. You don't move players who are performing at a high level.
Richmond did it with Balta and it resulted in his form going backwards.


Playing Jones in the ruck in the VFL was what turned his career around and allowed him to regain confidence so I don’t think it would affect his form. But I do agree with you that it’s a bad idea to move him out of defence where he is doing well.

Like you said better to move Guv around as he’s not having much impact anyway and could benefit from being more involved for more of the game.


I don't think Jones is the long term answer for the back up ruck spot, so much as he's going to play on Wright anyway, who will pinch hit for them, he may as well follow him in.

Phillips isn't going to be BOG or even the difference between the two sides. Good a week as any to not see Levi as a structural necessity. Especially with TDK coming back soon.


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PostPosted: Thu Apr 29, 2021 11:00 pm 
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Sadly I don't see us getting near the Scum on Sunday. We are just too flaky at the moment. Poor skills and lack of composure will be telling.


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PostPosted: Fri Apr 30, 2021 2:30 am 
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Rod Spooky Galt wrote:
sinbagger wrote:
Blue Vain wrote:
Arnhem blues wrote:
Agree (in part) with Rod Spooky. Whilst maybe not for this game I have always liked the idea of trialling Jones in the ruck. His kamikaze style would fit that role I think - be a tough additional player in congestion, huge leap, big tackles, polish not so important, can help out the backline...
Wonder what Mc G would look like down back, Jones in the ruck (or back up when TDK gets going...)


Jones is bordering on AA form.
You move players who are struggling in their current role. You don't move players who are performing at a high level.
Richmond did it with Balta and it resulted in his form going backwards.


Playing Jones in the ruck in the VFL was what turned his career around and allowed him to regain confidence so I don’t think it would affect his form. But I do agree with you that it’s a bad idea to move him out of defence where he is doing well.

Like you said better to move Guv around as he’s not having much impact anyway and could benefit from being more involved for more of the game.


I don't think Jones is the long term answer for the back up ruck spot, so much as he's going to play on Wright anyway, who will pinch hit for them, he may as well follow him in.

Phillips isn't going to be BOG or even the difference between the two sides. Good a week as any to not see Levi as a structural necessity. Especially with TDK coming back soon.


As much as Casboult doesn’t deserve a game right now, he will play for another week.

Let’s hope De Koning gets through the reserves injury free.


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