TalkingCarlton :: View topic - When will this team stand up???????

azzablue, fortunately we have a lot of winnable games in the second half of the season :thumbsup:

BlueJean wrote:

bondiblue wrote:

https://www.sen.com.au/news/2021/06/03/who-is-the-most-improved-player-in-the-afl-at-the-halfway-mark/

Finally, someone in the media has accepted the fact most of our forward line has been missing this year due to injury.

Quote:

McKay has always shown the ability to be a dominant key forward, but was held back by injuries across his first four seasons.

The former top 10 pick has put all the pieces together in 2021 and has done so despite Carlton missing almost its entire starting forward line for most of the year – Charlie Curnow, Mitch McGovern, Jack Martin, Zac Fisher and Jack Silvagni have all had injury issues.

Point is, its difficult to "Stand up" when you're injured.

Injury has had a huge impact on our year thus far.

Mate, you have blurred vision. Do you work for the club? Stop defending our inadequacy.

Just stating the only 'comforting' fact.

I have already mentioned my disappointment with"

* the lack of defensive pressure from our midfield group.
* the lack of defensive focus by coach
* the late reaction to opposition set ups
* the lack of fitness of our players to run for 4 quarters/ possiblt Russell's failure.
* the lack of a depth for Fwd/ Ruck, KPD depth
* the lack of development for our High Draft selections...all of them
* Playing injured or underdone players and expecting them to run 100% for 4 quarters
* allowing the players to put their hand up for selection even if injured
* continuing playing players who are out of form or not following instruction
* failing to stop the 5 goal run of goals from opposition........

BJ, you just haven't read those posts. :wink:

bondiblue wrote:

BlueJean wrote:

bondiblue wrote:

Quote:

Point is, its difficult to "Stand up" when you're injured.

Injury has had a huge impact on our year thus far.

Mate, you have blurred vision. Do you work for the club? Stop defending our inadequacy.

No doubt injuries play a part, but good teams don’t use that as an excuse.

The key is culture and systems. We rely on individual brilliance to stay competitive and win games.

We have little role players that are effective.

Our bottom tier players are near the worst in the AFL.

Fix some of these issues and we might have a chance.

That game would make my list of top 5000 rock bottom Carlton moments of the 21st century

Author:	CFC8795 [ Tue Jun 08, 2021 11:25 am ]
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azzablue, fortunately we have a lot of winnable games in the second half of the season

Author:	azzablue [ Tue Jun 08, 2021 12:31 pm ]
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CFC8795 wrote: azzablue, fortunately we have a lot of winnable games in the second half of the season I don’t see that but important to be positive and hopefully local senior footy and nab league games come back soon , watching my boys play and their teammates as a team is far more enjoyable Only a few weeks ago they knocked off a undefeated team of 2 years snd that was more exciting than what Carlton has produced this year

Author:	WOW [ Tue Jun 08, 2021 12:46 pm ]
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bondiblue wrote: BlueJean wrote: bondiblue wrote: https://www.sen.com.au/news/2021/06/03/who-is-the-most-improved-player-in-the-afl-at-the-halfway-mark/ Finally, someone in the media has accepted the fact most of our forward line has been missing this year due to injury. Quote: McKay has always shown the ability to be a dominant key forward, but was held back by injuries across his first four seasons. The former top 10 pick has put all the pieces together in 2021 and has done so despite Carlton missing almost its entire starting forward line for most of the year – Charlie Curnow, Mitch McGovern, Jack Martin, Zac Fisher and Jack Silvagni have all had injury issues. Point is, its difficult to "Stand up" when you're injured. Injury has had a huge impact on our year thus far. Mate, you have blurred vision. Do you work for the club? Stop defending our inadequacy. Just stating the only 'comforting' fact. I have already mentioned my disappointment with" * the lack of defensive pressure from our midfield group. * the lack of defensive focus by coach * the late reaction to opposition set ups * the lack of fitness of our players to run for 4 quarters/ possiblt Russell's failure. * the lack of a depth for Fwd/ Ruck, KPD depth * the lack of development for our High Draft selections...all of them * Playing injured or underdone players and expecting them to run 100% for 4 quarters * allowing the players to put their hand up for selection even if injured * continuing playing players who are out of form or not following instruction * failing to stop the 5 goal run of goals from opposition........ BJ, you just haven't read those posts. No doubt injuries play a part, but good teams don’t use that as an excuse. The key is culture and systems. We rely on individual brilliance to stay competitive and win games. We have little role players that are effective. Our bottom tier players are near the worst in the AFL. Fix some of these issues and we might have a chance.

Author:	azzablue [ Tue Jun 08, 2021 1:11 pm ]
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WOW wrote: bondiblue wrote: BlueJean wrote: bondiblue wrote: https://www.sen.com.au/news/2021/06/03/who-is-the-most-improved-player-in-the-afl-at-the-halfway-mark/ Finally, someone in the media has accepted the fact most of our forward line has been missing this year due to injury. Quote: McKay has always shown the ability to be a dominant key forward, but was held back by injuries across his first four seasons. The former top 10 pick has put all the pieces together in 2021 and has done so despite Carlton missing almost its entire starting forward line for most of the year – Charlie Curnow, Mitch McGovern, Jack Martin, Zac Fisher and Jack Silvagni have all had injury issues. Point is, its difficult to "Stand up" when you're injured. Injury has had a huge impact on our year thus far. Mate, you have blurred vision. Do you work for the club? Stop defending our inadequacy. Just stating the only 'comforting' fact. I have already mentioned my disappointment with" * the lack of defensive pressure from our midfield group. * the lack of defensive focus by coach * the late reaction to opposition set ups * the lack of fitness of our players to run for 4 quarters/ possiblt Russell's failure. * the lack of a depth for Fwd/ Ruck, KPD depth * the lack of development for our High Draft selections...all of them * Playing injured or underdone players and expecting them to run 100% for 4 quarters * allowing the players to put their hand up for selection even if injured * continuing playing players who are out of form or not following instruction * failing to stop the 5 goal run of goals from opposition........ BJ, you just haven't read those posts. No doubt injuries play a part, but good teams don’t use that as an excuse. The key is culture and systems. We rely on individual brilliance to stay competitive and win games. We have little role players that are effective. Our bottom tier players are near the worst in the AFL. Fix some of these issues and we might have a chance. Culture and system !! When it works you have a whole team from seniors to reserves Eg. 2019 premiership by tigers , reserves and players wore all their footy jumpers that day When you carry players , it’s fails miserably Eg , our pies loss , our port loss , our dogs loss and dare I say it , our eagles loss How many clubs right now have record winning sequences against us !! Something has to change dramatically That guy Heath buck on my blue heaven said , it’s not about winning it all but you have to show constant improvement !! Were has there been the improvement in our playing group since Bolton got the sack ??

Author:	frank dardew [ Sun Jun 20, 2021 9:11 am ]
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Not last night again Gee when I started this thread I thought just maybe this time of the season it would happen but alas nothing

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Author:	Scotty12000 [ Sun Jun 20, 2021 9:50 am ]
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10 pages is an awfully large amount of posts to say “they won’t.”

Author:	frank dardew [ Sun Jun 20, 2021 9:55 am ]
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Yep

Author:	david31 [ Sun Jun 20, 2021 12:36 pm ]
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Yes we should now change the title of this thread to “when will they give up” The answer is now Every 2 or 3 years they completely pack it in Like clockwork This may be one of the lowest ebbs for this club is a horrendous last 20 years. 6 years into a rebuild and 4-9. Not even giving a shit against a middling GWS team. Pathetic

Author:	CK95 [ Sun Jun 20, 2021 1:03 pm ]
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That game would make my list of top 5000 rock bottom Carlton moments of the 21st century

Author:	Wojee [ Mon Jun 21, 2021 1:54 pm ]
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CK95 wrote: That game would make my list of top 5000 rock bottom Carlton moments of the 21st century Seconds after the first bounce it was obvious that GWS were in for a low intesity training drill.

Author:	CK95 [ Mon Jun 21, 2021 2:24 pm ]
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You're right. It was totally one of those games where very early on you could tell we'd turned up with the wrong attitude. I still can't belive how much easy ball they got in the first half, just a joke.

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