195cm, but too slow.

I know we are looking for a Levi replacement (Fwd-ruck), but noit Williams for me.

We should target a player with ability to run, like Tom DeKoning.

Still think if we can snag a ruckman who can take the No 1 ruck mantle from Pittonet, and goes allright close to goal, like Hawks captain, McEvoy, then we have got our set of big men back and forward (when Marchbank returns next year)

What we need ,1. another mid who is quick /strong 2 . athletic 196cm backman ,but who ever we draft must have size and aerobically good. Some teams just look so big against us . Trade setterfield and sps and i think kennedy might have saved himself even though he performed poorly against geelong but played well against ferals.

Run like Tom De Koning… that’s peak cheer squad. Classic.

Man a key post AND take multiple 10min stints on the bench.

Get your resume in to the club before the review is done. You could be on the coaching panel.

Oscar is the bird in hand regarding your second point.

I can’t get behind the idea that Samo should be traded out, but I understand where you’re coming from. I just think we’d be better served by clearing the dead wood in the fwd/mid group.

What we need ,1. another mid who is quick /strong 2 . athletic 196cm backman ,but who ever we draft must have size and aerobically good. Some teams just look so big against us . Trade setterfield and sps and i think kennedy might have saved himself even though he performed poorly against geelong but played well against ferals.

Run like Tom De Koning… that’s peak cheer squad. Classic.

Man a key post AND take multiple 10min stints on the bench.

Get your resume in to the club before the review is done. You could be on the coaching panel.

Oscar is the bird in hand regarding your second point.

I can’t get behind the idea that Samo should be traded out, but I understand where you’re coming from. I just think we’d be better served by clearing the dead wood in the fwd/mid group.

Just got off Players Thread.

I see, you're not a Tom DeKoning fan at all. You don't even give him hope.
That implies you choose to write off kids. That makes you an expert? You see things others can't?

I can't respect the way you go about writing off kids, I mean, this kid is only turned 22 yo this year, and you should know tall kids take a few years longer to develop, don't you?
This kid is really really tall too. He's been described as a young giraffe, and he looks that way, but wayyyyy to early to write him off.

So you slag him off, and also anyone who see's some potential in him. OK.

You're on your own on this one. You know that don't you?

Tom's potential is there for everyone to see, and it's been said in the media, by his coaches and every other Carlton fan, other than you.
We all accept he's a few years away from being developed, then after 25 he will get better and better...you can see it from a young age.

He did really well against an AA ruckman on the weekend.

Bondi you obviously didn't get the memo. TDK shagged crusader's missus then ran over his dog on the way out

Hearing Marchbank will be paid out. Huge loss. Can't win a trick.
Long way back to fitness. He was so important for us in our rebuild.

I'd put money on the following not be there, and more

Eddie
Levi
Marchy
Gibbons

Oscar...

A few big names may be put up for trade. Keogh will be happy, and possibly proven right.

Fish and SPS ... need to show they belong in the AFL, and are worth trading for imo.

Brodie Kemp - re-sign.
Eddie Betts - I'd be open to another year on the rookie list if the list numbers stack up and he's willing to go around again.
Edward Curnow - one more year
Jack Newnes - depending on the sort of coin he's wanting and what alternatives are there in that role (I'd prefer Nathan Freeman at this stage). I'd reluctantly offer a year, but prefer to delist.
Jack Silvagni - I'd offer a two year deal, but suspect they'd be wanting three
Josh Honey - undecided, plenty of time left to make a decision. If the season ended tomorrow, you'd be thinking somewhere between delist and one more year on rookie list.
Lachlan Fogarty - done enough to warrant a two year deal, and I suspect his out of contract status is wrong anyway.
Levi Casboult - delist
Lochie O'Brien - delist
Luke Parks - I think there's potential there, I'd be offering another year. I suspect the coaching staff find him limited. He's got two more years on the rookie list.
Marc Murphy - gone
Marc Pittonet - probably deserves another year, wouldn't be too unhappy to see the back of him if the right list management decisions were made to get in the right players in his place. Another one year deal.
Matt Cottrell - deserves another year - look how long it's taken Mitch Robinson to develop into a reliable senior player. Can stay on the rookie list anyway
Matt Owies - I think he can stay on the rookie list another year as a category B rookie. Would promote anyway.
Matthew Kennedy - not sure how his rookie list eligibility works - if we can retain him another year on there without having to delist first, I would.
Michael Gibbons - delist
Nic Newman - a one year deal, I could be twisted into two years.
Oscar McDonald - I think you'd keep him ahead of Pittonet and Casboult largely on the salary aspect. Depends how he goes if he gets any footy in before the end of the year. Could be unlucky.
Sam Petrevski-Seton - I'd consider trading if the right offer came in (pick in 15 to 25 region, or as part of a Cerra deal or a pick upgrade in the first round) but would prefer to keep him.
Sam Ramsay - delist
Will Setterfield - one year extension, re-rookie or delist, there's no real difference in feeling for me there.

That'd give us 5 off the senior list (Casboult, Murphy, O'Brien, Ramsey, Gibbons), possible Owies/McDonald upgrade if we had to, with room to be flexible on Setterfield, Newnes, SPS, Pittonet, Honey, Betts etc if we needed to.

Is the plan for Mirkov and TDK ato be the ruck/fwd combo moving forward?

If that’s the case I’d chase a stop gap experienced ruck for a couple of years. Wonder if the Hawks would trade McEvoy

I've been saying this fo a long time.
I have a history of respecting the role of ruckmen.
In fact, I wouldn't go into a Grand Final with one, unless the 2nd is Med Sub.

You realise how important a ruckman is when you don't have an AA ruckman facing the 4 other AA ruckmen in the land.

No doubt Mirkov is selected to develop.
He is an athletic freak, and knows the game but at an amateur level.
He may come on really quick.
I like the way Russell wants to strengthen him up to AFL standard before next season comes around.

We need a stop gap, like Hawks did with McEvoy.
Who knew he was going to continue playing this long.
What would you offer the Hawks for their captain?

Its a pity Kreuzer's body failed him and left us with an inexperienced average ruck, with a big heart in Pittonet, who since injured have left a skinny 22yo to take the No 1 mantle when he shouldnt be anything but No. 2 this year.

Lets hope TDK improves a lot the next preseason.
I think those skinny legs and hips are going to need another 3 preseasons to compete with the heavier, stronger bodies.

Finf another one, McEvoy highly unlikely, unless we offer a 1st or 2nd rounder, and McEvoy may not be interested in moving at his age....and at his age, he may be at the end of his career during 2022.

I wonder what Grundy thinks about the Pies situation? They still need about 1300 points just to get Daicos Jnr through the door. Has a long contract which they might be interested in shipping off if it’s mutually beneficial.

Just a thought