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Author: | robertbb [ Thu Jun 03, 2021 11:14 am ] |
Post subject: | Re: List Management 2021 |
bondiblue wrote: bender wrote: i really think we should have looked at a kpd. if jones or weitering go down, levi is our only back up, and we leak goals as it is Its a precarious position we are in if one of the only 2 KPD's we have goes down. Plowman and Marchbank are more 3rd tall and marchy an intercept mark. The back 6 are good. I think all of them, like other teams have made mistakes, but generally good. Its the midfield/wings that need to be stronger at defense imo, after all, its their opponents that deliver the ball to their forwards. The bookends are fine (though we need a Jones replacement in the short term). The midfield and wings are where we truly lack. |
Author: | Donstuie [ Thu Jun 03, 2021 12:25 pm ] |
Post subject: | Re: List Management 2021 |
SurreyBlue wrote: bender wrote: i really think we should have looked at a kpd. if jones or weitering go down, levi is our only back up, and we leak goals as it is Yep, especially with Marchbank out. Fingers crossed we don’t lose Weitering. I remember having eyes rolled my way when I suggested that getting rid of our entire KPD depth (BSOS, Macreadie, Goddard) in one hit was poor list management, without replacing them (with McDonald) or Kreuzer (with Mirkov) until much later on. If nothing else, is it any wonder our 2's fail to show any semblance of structure without defenders or a ruckman? |
Author: | keogh [ Thu Jun 03, 2021 12:37 pm ] |
Post subject: | Re: List Management 2021 |
Donstuie wrote: SurreyBlue wrote: bender wrote: i really think we should have looked at a kpd. if jones or weitering go down, levi is our only back up, and we leak goals as it is Yep, especially with Marchbank out. Fingers crossed we don’t lose Weitering. I remember having eyes rolled my way when I suggested that getting rid of our entire KPD depth (BSOS, Macreadie, Goddard) in one hit was poor list management, without replacing them (with McDonald) or Kreuzer (with Mirkov) until much later on. If nothing else, is it any wonder our 2's fail to show any semblance of structure without defenders or a ruckman? Are you surprised Hugh Goddard terrible pick up MacCreadie not hard enough BOS doubt he will ever make it Zac Strom is one guy I would recruit From South Freo Of course Carlton rarely go about things that way and pick hacks from other AFL clubs |
Author: | jamespul65 [ Thu Jun 03, 2021 3:07 pm ] |
Post subject: | Re: List Management 2021 |
good luck to our new recruits |
Author: | Donstuie [ Thu Jun 03, 2021 5:25 pm ] |
Post subject: | Re: List Management 2021 |
keogh wrote: Donstuie wrote: SurreyBlue wrote: bender wrote: i really think we should have looked at a kpd. if jones or weitering go down, levi is our only back up, and we leak goals as it is Yep, especially with Marchbank out. Fingers crossed we don’t lose Weitering. I remember having eyes rolled my way when I suggested that getting rid of our entire KPD depth (BSOS, Macreadie, Goddard) in one hit was poor list management, without replacing them (with McDonald) or Kreuzer (with Mirkov) until much later on. If nothing else, is it any wonder our 2's fail to show any semblance of structure without defenders or a ruckman? Are you surprised Hugh Goddard terrible pick up MacCreadie not hard enough BOS doubt he will ever make it Zac Strom is one guy I would recruit From South Freo Of course Carlton rarely go about things that way and pick hacks from other AFL clubs Not my point. |
Author: | 17th Premiership [ Fri Jun 04, 2021 11:24 am ] |
Post subject: | Re: List Management 2021 |
robertbb wrote: bondiblue wrote: bender wrote: i really think we should have looked at a kpd. if jones or weitering go down, levi is our only back up, and we leak goals as it is Its a precarious position we are in if one of the only 2 KPD's we have goes down. Plowman and Marchbank are more 3rd tall and marchy an intercept mark. The back 6 are good. I think all of them, like other teams have made mistakes, but generally good. Its the midfield/wings that need to be stronger at defense imo, after all, its their opponents that deliver the ball to their forwards. The bookends are fine (though we need a Jones replacement in the short term). The midfield and wings are where we truly lack. Could McGovern or JSOS be the longer term KPD we need? (One of them = 3rd tall forward; the other Key Back....) |
Author: | bluechampion [ Fri Jun 04, 2021 5:46 pm ] |
Post subject: | Re: List Management 2021 |
Jones 199cm Weitering 196cm McDonald 196cm Silvagni 194cm Marchbank 193cm Kemp 193cm Plowman 193cm Parks 192cm McGovern 191cm |
Author: | bondiblue [ Fri Jun 04, 2021 7:56 pm ] |
Post subject: | Re: List Management 2021 |
bluechampion wrote: Jones 199cm Weitering 196cm McDonald 196cm Silvagni 194cm Marchbank 193cm Kemp 193cm Plowman 193cm Parks 192cm McGovern 191cm Incredible how durable the 2 KPD's have been. I would hate to give any of the others the FB or CHB responsibility. Maybe McDonald, but like the other 3 on that list he's injured. The others are held together by bandage. |
Author: | frank dardew [ Sun Jun 06, 2021 8:43 pm ] |
Post subject: | Re: List Management 2021 |
Given todays debacle we need to see Kemp Carroll Honey in a few games Charlie back for a few games Games into stocker Dow TDK Owies Setterfield Fatten for market SPS and Kennedy Sign up Cripps H and Walsh No more Levi or Murph |
Author: | bondiblue [ Sun Jun 06, 2021 9:00 pm ] |
Post subject: | Re: List Management 2021 |
frank dardew wrote: Given todays debacle we need to see Kemp Carroll Honey in a few games Charlie back for a few games Games into stocker Dow TDK Owies Setterfield Fatten for market SPS and Kennedy Sign up Cripps H and Walsh No more Levi or Murph Yep I'm happy with that. I just want to see players selected who are desperate to win. Good idea re fattening up players for trade. |
Author: | bondiblue [ Mon Jun 07, 2021 11:00 am ] |
Post subject: | Re: List Management 2021 |
Should have offered more $$$ to get Jack Graham into this team We need more than Cripps (who can't run), Walsh (GOD), and Dow (was OK, need to presevere and get some mongel in his game) Its obvious Lloyd hasn't got a clue about this list. Why did Austin give Dodoro Pick 8 for Saad? Not saying he isn't worth it, but we didn't have to. Mr nice guy Austin reflects the nice guys we have on our list. He wanted to be Mr Nice guys. Nice guys don't win AFL flags. Dodoro is just laughing at Austin's mascara. The sitting duck blinked. Why didn't SOS get Saad when he could have all those years back. He couldn't see a quality opportunity for a 2nd rounder. SOS wanted a school yard full of kids who needed good players around them. We can fix this. Softcocks Teague, Russell, Lloyd and Austin need to change their approach and HTFU. |
Author: | SurreyBlue [ Mon Jun 07, 2021 11:36 am ] |
Post subject: | Re: List Management 2021 |
The list as a whole, lead by Cripps & Docherty, need to use this week's bye for a good old fashion look in the mirror type of discussion(s). No more bullsh1t talk. Great article: https://www.sen.com.au/news/2021/06/07/ ... avid-king/ |
Author: | Donstuie [ Mon Jun 07, 2021 11:57 am ] |
Post subject: | Re: List Management 2021 |
bondiblue wrote: Why did Austin give Dodoro Pick 8 for Saad? Not saying he isn't worth it, but we didn't have to. Mr nice guy Austin reflects the nice guys we have on our list. He wanted to be Mr Nice guys. Nice guys don't win AFL flags. Dodoro is just laughing at Austin's mascara. The sitting duck blinked. But our brand.... |
Author: | jamespul65 [ Mon Jun 07, 2021 3:17 pm ] |
Post subject: | Re: List Management 2021 |
i never wanted Saad i wanted nick cox / another dumb easy trade from our recruiting team |
Author: | jamespul65 [ Mon Jun 07, 2021 3:17 pm ] |
Post subject: | Re: List Management 2021 |
i never wanted Saad i wanted nick cox / another dumb easy trade from our recruiting team |
Author: | rhys87 [ Mon Jun 07, 2021 3:26 pm ] |
Post subject: | Re: List Management 2021 |
jamespul65 wrote: i never wanted Saad i wanted nick cox / another dumb easy trade from our recruiting team Nick Cox would be running around in the 2s for us or injured right now. |
Author: | Nick [ Mon Jun 07, 2021 3:26 pm ] |
Post subject: | Re: List Management 2021 |
Well never would've got him anyway because Essendon* picked him with their pick which was before our original pick. |
Author: | Blue Vain [ Mon Jun 07, 2021 4:13 pm ] |
Post subject: | Re: List Management 2021 |
Saad is the least of our problems. He's shown a few of our blokes how to play with injury without sooking it up. Personally, I think he's shown far more resilience, footy IQ and leadership than most of our blokes. |
Author: | GWS [ Mon Jun 07, 2021 4:26 pm ] |
Post subject: | Re: List Management 2021 |
Blue Vain wrote: Saad is the least of our problems. He's shown a few of our blokes how to play with injury without sooking it up. Personally, I think he's shown far more resilience, footy IQ and leadership than most of our blokes. Coming third in the TC MVP. Trade. |
Author: | Donstuie [ Mon Jun 07, 2021 5:26 pm ] |
Post subject: | Re: List Management 2021 |
Saad's not the issue, it's what we gave up or him, and the implications for future dealings. |
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