Fairly thin in this years draft with pick 6 + 25 currently our next pick is in the 60s.

I am sure the club wouldn't mind another couple 2nd/3rd round picks

i dont how swans do it they keep finding players,that quick,skillful,there recruiting is fantastic and great game plan .Need to remember never bottom out but still produce goods.

Well for one, the Swans have a group of senior players always at hand to direct and to ensure the culture and the efforts are in tact. ie no passengers, no flower.

For a start, compare the 2 captains: Cripps vs Kennedy. Both tough big inside mids (Cripps 6 cm taller)

One thing you wont hear the rubbish by th media that the Swans will ruin Kennedy if keeps playing the hard inside mid (he has since his first year at Swans in 2010 when he came 3rd in their BnF).

Kennedy never shirks a contest even with 2 shoulders strapped up and one leg lame. he goes hard and never takes a backward step.

Kennedy is 33 years old this year and still going hard as the inside mid, and Swans wil invite him to play another year next year in the same role as a 34yo. He could play his 300th game next year.

Culture and every player plays their role.

Plenty of tough inside mids, not to spread the role, but to ensure the midfield group don't depend on one mid to win the hard ball thereafter its about game plan and the Swans always are tinkering to suit their personnel.

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Good luck.

He was super fit before the season started.
I spoke with him and he was the fittest he had ever been in preseason.

He needs to change the way he kicks (if its not too late). He's a very accurate 15 metre pass by foot, and that's because of the way he kicks: opposite style to Buddy regardless of height diff.

At best, he's a depth player imo. Too many weaknesses for a forward imo.

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and what do you do with Fogarty Williamson Setterfield and OBrien? They are taking up 4 spots are not the future imo.

I'm hoping we can get something for the players I mentioned because they are a bust whereas Constable and Dunstan are cheaper and far harder at the ball and win more ball than our 4 seat warmers.

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Largely because of the Swans Academy rort. Basically they get access to the best Sydney juniors and get to develop them as teenagers. Effectively they get 2 1st round picks every year. Last year it was 3.

Yep, definitely a fair chunk of that. My niece is in the GWS junior program and it's a very impressive set-up, so don't be surprised to see two Sydney clubs with a huge leg-up over the Melbourne suburbanites for decades to come.

The best thing potentially about the Fogarty trade is with pick 38 we got Carroll
Fogarty is average at best

I think Fogarty has potential but has dropped away badly after a good first half of the year
Still in football infancy so let’s be a bit patient

We look at how we can improve our clearances, and a young ruckman from Freo named Sean Darcy gives us a few hints.





Our mids don't get that sort of armchair ride from Pittonet, Levi or DeKoning. DeKoning may become more productive but at 21yo the norm suggests he has 3-4 years to go before he excels.

Then there's the other stuff we expect from the big ruckman (qualities we were use to from Big Nick, Percy, Madden, and Allan for a year or two, but not since them):



Our defenders can do with the added support when they are one on one defending.



Frankly, I can't see Pittonet mirroring the above, and feel if we are to make Finals, and give them a red hot go as of next year, we need to get ourselves a bonafide ruckman to do it, and DeKoning can work on his forward craft in the meantime.

Easy ask, hard to find. But those who think ruck role is overrated is probably because they haven't seen what the good ones provide, and rarely a ruckman gives his team the above 3 qualities.

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Hip surgery plus hamstring & ankle issues last year. Calf & groin before that.

Not surprised he was at his best in the early season. This is the deepest into a season he’s been since his rookie year.

He’s an AFL-level player, he just needs strength. Everything else is compensating for a lack of it… if his hips are still [REDACTED], then he’ll be pushing shit uphill to get it.

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That makes a lot of sense.

Another player selected when not fit enough for AFL. not good for player, team or supporters.

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Fogs is an above average player according to stats and having his best season to date.

https://www.carltonfc.com.au/players/17 ... statistics

The first point is all that matters for a serviceable ruckman. Earlier in the season, Grundy had 50+ hitouts against us with Pittonet taking the lion’s share of contests. And yet, because he limited those ‘wins’ for Grundy to just the hitout (no advantage) we had more centre clearances & split the stoppage clearances down the middle. A week later against a Darcy/Meek combo, the hitouts to advantage were again about square and we crushed them.

What Pittonet brings is a reduced liability at the stoppages. Without him, it’s a massive shift from hunting, to chasing.

When De Koning went up against Darcy, he was violated in ways not seen since Jamie Fraser surrendered to Black Jack Randall.

Darcy is a brute, Grundy is a craftsman. If we’re going to get anywhere near Collingwood this week, De Koning will need to produce something much better than the -10 hitouts to advantage differential he’s brought so far. Beyond that, it’s fair to say that the only way is up for him.

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watching cats play fogarty would not get a game for them ,same goes for setterfield and kennedy and plowman not good enough ,only Gws injuries might allow the x players to get a game.

Just as a thought
Why did we get rid of Nick Holman
He goes alright

Because he didn't go alright for us and people probably thought he was a useless recruiting bust clogging our list...

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I thought he showed more potential than many others

To be fair I think a few of us thought he was alright and thought he was unlucky to be delisted at the time.

Include me in that.

But I think we all know that under our system of development he would have been playing in the bush somewhere by now.

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