https://www.sen.com.au/news/2021/08/16/lloyd-names-eight-players-who-should-consider-moving-clubs-for-greater/

I have always been a Weideman fan. He and Harry would be interesting with Charlie further up the ground.

Chol is an interesting one. Athletic but not sure about his footy smarts as I haven't seen him enough. 200cm with a leap makes him a chance as 2nd ruck option. Any thoughts on him.

Regards Cazzesman

Do you think Cerra is worth a first rounder
Obviously I don’t think so

After academy selections I think it was effectively pick #10 - and that was in a draft year with no U/18 football so in real terms was probably worth around, say pick #15 in a normal draft year (rough guess). Then we also got a pick back from Essendon** which we used to recruit Jack Carroll who appears to be a likely type.
I agree that pick #8 was a bit much but don't think it was a bad trade by any means.

cerra is another mid ,who doesnt have that breakaway speed ,keep our first pick and go to the draft find that recruit ess done it

This list isn’t good enough
Go to the draft get kids for 2 to 3 years
Look at Essendon** and Sydney in the last year or two
Get it right we will have really good team in a few years that will march to a top 4 position.
With Weitering McKay Cripps Walsh and a few others there we can be up there again

Stating the obvious but we will need to find a ruck/forward.

You're not entirely correct keogh.

Have a look at Effendrug* and Swans. They ahve a core group of senior players who can carry the load.
You expect kids to keep getting smashed week in week out for 6 years now, and for another 3-4? Mate they will not hang around long enough.

Effedrug* imported Stringer, Shield, Stewart, Smith, Snelling, speaking of esses (s variety) also Saad (and wanted to keep him. he was in their top 3 in the BnF for 3 years running), Hind, Cutler and Wright who all played to support the kids. With them, they had senior players Heppell, Merrett, McGrath, Parish...all senior players and all of them in the midfield.

https://www.sen.com.au/news/2021/08/16/lloyd-names-eight-players-who-should-consider-moving-clubs-for-greater/

I have always been a Weideman fan. He and Harry would be interesting with Charlie further up the ground.

Chol is an interesting one. Athletic but not sure about his footy smarts as I haven't seen him enough. 200cm with a leap makes him a chance as 2nd ruck option. Any thoughts on him.

Regards Cazzesman

I would have done it if I had to.

maybe Austin had to do it like Crusader suggests.

You're not entirely correct keogh.

Have a look at Effendrug* and Swans. They ahve a core group of senior players who can carry the load.
You expect kids to keep getting smashed week in week out for 6 years now, and for another 3-4? Mate they will not hang around long enough.

Effedrug* imported Stringer, Shield, Stewart, Smith, Snelling, speaking of esses (s variety) also Saad (and wanted to keep him. he was in their top 3 in the BnF for 3 years running), Hind, Cutler and Wright who all played to support the kids. With them, they had senior players Heppell, Merrett, McGrath, Parish...all senior players and all of them in the midfield.

The thing with Cerra though he is showing improvement in his game y-o-y.

His stats this year are superior to last year - the question is at 21 y.o can he really break out and become a gun of the competition.

Current trend suggests the chances are very good. Known quantities that are young and improving are priceless.

seems like one of those days where every player has an S in its name!

To be honest given that Shiel and Stringer cost them plenty they still have a bit of repayment to the Bombers
Hind and Snelling are two classic examples of what excellent recruiting is
Both play pivotal roles for their team still young and cost the Bombers
Pick 7 in a midseason draft and a pick in the 70s
When’s the last time that happened at Carlton
Gibbons has been serviceable but he was well known from Melbourne

Let’s look at the players mentioned
Stringer on fire at the minute but has missed 5 games and has only played well the last 6 weeks
Shiel another overrated player has played 6 games this year
Stewart defender key defensive At the moment that isn’t our problem
Smith been good has missed 4 games
Hind cost Essendon** a late pick bizarre he got the arse from the Saints
Has been better than Saad in exactly the same position and Saad cost us pick 8 and salary cap space
Heppell getting older plays HBF has missed 5 games
Merrett and Parish have been guns but so are Cripps and Walsh
Mc Garth has missed 8 games
Two meter Peter has a couple of good games one game out of the box
Cutler has played half the games and is ordinary
Essendon** were forced to go to the draft because of Saad and Daniher wanting out
It’s guys like Perkins and Cox and co that have made the difference
They have showed it can be done by not trading picks out
You mentioned Snelling
He was a mid season pick matured aged 22 year old from West Adelaide
Cerra is a better player but not by that much
Snelling is tougher in the contest doubles Cerras tackle count
Argument over