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 Post subject: Re: List Management 2021
PostPosted: Tue May 18, 2021 11:50 am 
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Scotty12000 wrote:
Is there anyway we can set an autocorrect so that 'could of' written together instantly changes to 'could have,' similar to the * for Essendon**?
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 Post subject: Re: List Management 2021
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https://www.foxsports.com.au/afl/afl-trade-news-2021-trades-chat-with-tom-morris-live-chat-patrick-cripps-marcus-bontempelli-contracts-jack-riewoldt/news-story/fde4217df22b923fe0e8fbf16c8b52a1

On Cripps

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Superstar free agents Patrick Cripps and Marcus Bontempelli are now off the market, according to rival clubs.
Foxfooty.com.au understands Carlton is on the verge of locking Cripps into a new deal – likely four years - that will keep West Coast at bay, while Bontempelli won’t be leaving Whitten Oval.


On Cerra

The rumour around the Collegians is that Cerra has bought a house in Carlton. Tom Morris hadn't heard that rumour.
Interesting, but its only a rumour by nobody known as a good source.

Point is, there's quality mids out there wanting to come home to Melbourne, or move clubs within Melbourne, and its Austin's job to be talking to their management.

If we had 2 first rounders last year, rumour was we had a chance to get Oliver to Carlton. Pick 8 for Saad didn't help the cause.
No doubt Merrett is on Austin's radar. Would be remiss of him if he wasn't.

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 Post subject: Re: List Management 2021
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billc3 wrote:
Scotty12000 wrote:
Is there anyway we can set an autocorrect so that 'could of' written together instantly changes to 'could have,' similar to the * for Essendon***?
:thumbsup:

RIP Mosche

Go Blues!


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 Post subject: Re: List Management 2021
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Scotty12000 wrote:
Is there anyway we can set an autocorrect so that 'could of' written together instantly changes to 'could have,' similar to the * for Essendon**?

I would of thought so.


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 Post subject: Re: List Management 2021
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jezzarules wrote:
Some injuries eg stress fractures are often caused by overtraining

More likely bone vibration.


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 Post subject: Re: List Management 2021
PostPosted: Tue May 18, 2021 2:08 pm 
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keogh wrote:
bondiblue wrote:
Interesting to see Pick 8 in 2017 draft, Nick Coffield has been dropped back to the reserves.

We took Paddy Dow at 3 and O'Brien pick 10.

Looking at the draft we did well in the long run. Dow was good in his first game for Carlton.
He's played plenty of good ganes before he turned 20yo.

Dow got moved to HF to make way for Teagues preference to play older players in the coal face for wins not development.

Just goes to show with Coffield, most kids take time, and take their opportunity when it comes.

Ive got a good feeling about Dow.
I would not be adverse to his selection in our best 22 this week, and he isn't 21 yet.


Players we could of selected instead of Dow assuming that they made up their mind about O’Brien
Luke Davies-Uniacke
Adam Ceres
Jaidyn Stephenson
Hunter Clarke
Aaron Naughton
Players we could of picked if we assume that they were going to trade pick 28 for Kennedy
Darcy Fogarty
Jarred Brandon
Zac Bailey
Jack Higgins
Oscar Allen
Tim Kelly :roll:
Liam Ryan :eek:
Players we could of got with pick 28
Sam Taylor
Bailey Frisch
Brayden Ainsworth
Tom McCartin
Harrison Petty
Charlie Ballard
Jack Petruccelle
James Worpel
Kane Farrell
Bryan Miers
SOS hopefully got DeKoning right let’s hope he is injury free and a decent crack at it

And people think Teague is the main problem

Ceres?

I guess you worked for the Hawks who called out Luke Franklin instead of Lance Franklin.

Yeah, um. Both Dow and Kennedy would have been off the board if we didn't recruit them using our picks.

The quality players on your hindsight list aren't responsible for our game plan and development.

Richmond's role players aren't better than Cuningham.

Kelly has already walked out on Geelong because he's from WA and has a young family.


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 Post subject: Re: List Management 2021
PostPosted: Tue May 18, 2021 3:23 pm 
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hope we dont chase merrett and stays at ess. not giving another first rnd for a 27 yr old mid . Why cant fischer be our zac merrett


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 Post subject: Re: List Management 2021
PostPosted: Tue May 18, 2021 3:32 pm 
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It doesn't matter if we step on toes, get the BEST in player development and develop the kids.

And get more kids.

Enough with the imports.

Unless they come cheap.

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 Post subject: Re: List Management 2021
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Rightly so. There is enough talent there


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 Post subject: Re: List Management 2021
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RIP Mosche

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Spelt his name wrong :lol:

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 Post subject: Re: List Management 2021
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Who are the Collegians bondi?

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 Post subject: Re: List Management 2021
PostPosted: Tue May 18, 2021 5:15 pm 
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Kouta wrote:
keogh wrote:
bondiblue wrote:
Interesting to see Pick 8 in 2017 draft, Nick Coffield has been dropped back to the reserves.

We took Paddy Dow at 3 and O'Brien pick 10.

Looking at the draft we did well in the long run. Dow was good in his first game for Carlton.
He's played plenty of good ganes before he turned 20yo.

Dow got moved to HF to make way for Teagues preference to play older players in the coal face for wins not development.

Just goes to show with Coffield, most kids take time, and take their opportunity when it comes.

Ive got a good feeling about Dow.
I would not be adverse to his selection in our best 22 this week, and he isn't 21 yet.


Players we could of selected instead of Dow assuming that they made up their mind about O’Brien
Luke Davies-Uniacke
Adam Ceres
Jaidyn Stephenson
Hunter Clarke
Aaron Naughton
Players we could of picked if we assume that they were going to trade pick 28 for Kennedy
Darcy Fogarty
Jarred Brandon
Zac Bailey
Jack Higgins
Oscar Allen
Tim Kelly :roll:
Liam Ryan :eek:
Players we could of got with pick 28
Sam Taylor
Bailey Frisch
Brayden Ainsworth
Tom McCartin
Harrison Petty
Charlie Ballard
Jack Petruccelle
James Worpel
Kane Farrell
Bryan Miers
SOS hopefully got DeKoning right let’s hope he is injury free and a decent crack at it

And people think Teague is the main problem

Ceres?

I guess you worked for the Hawks who called out Luke Franklin instead of Lance Franklin.

Yeah, um. Both Dow and Kennedy would have been off the board if we didn't recruit them using our picks.

The quality players on your hindsight list aren't responsible for our game plan and development.

Richmond's role players aren't better than Cuningham.

Kelly has already walked out on Geelong because he's from WA and has a young family.


Ah phones hey!
The evidence is in front of you and you are still in denial


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 Post subject: Re: List Management 2021
PostPosted: Tue May 18, 2021 8:16 pm 
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But Trev, he is right. You are showing a high degree of hindsight bias & you are also being very selective.
Plenty of good young players have also walked through the doors since we started this painful rebuild.
Having said that, still time for Dow (who I personally like) and O'Brien if they're good enough. How old are they? 21?
By Christ Trev, your old teammate Wayne Johnston didn't even debut till he was 21! He turned out alright didn't he?
On that note, what about your lovechild McAdam - what was he when he cracked that debut? 30 odd?


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 Post subject: Re: List Management 2021
PostPosted: Tue May 18, 2021 9:26 pm 
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CK95 wrote:
billc3 wrote:
RIP Mosche

Go Blues!



Spelt his name wrong :lol:
D'oh....

I c what I did....
:wink:
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 Post subject: Re: List Management 2021
PostPosted: Tue May 18, 2021 11:32 pm 
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TheDenominator wrote:
But Trev, he is right. You are showing a high degree of hindsight bias & you are also being very selective.
Plenty of good young players have also walked through the doors since we started this painful rebuild.
Having said that, still time for Dow (who I personally like) and O'Brien if they're good enough. How old are they? 21?
By Christ Trev, your old teammate Wayne Johnston didn't even debut till he was 21! He turned out alright didn't he?
On that note, what about your lovechild McAdam - what was he when he cracked that debut? 30 odd?

Selective
Well thats a nice choice of words
I can interpret if as the guys we missed on
It’s in blue and white
I can tell 99 % certainty
O’Brien will be delisted at the end of the season
SOS totally [REDACTED] up pick 10
What young blokes have walked in the door ?
Name them
Johnston was a late bloomer
Tried out at Carlton went back to Prahan
What he always had was passion and effort
Go through the current list and tell me which ones have that
Dow explosive pace that’s just about it
Terrible kick poor game awareness
He is contracted till 2022
See what happens in the next 35 games for him because we won’t play finals in 2021

We are a results based industry
Why are we crap after 5.5 years of a rebuild
It’s List Management


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 Post subject: Re: List Management 2021
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Oh McAdam
The guy we got for nothing
Killed it at the draft camp in most key areas as a kid
Somehow overlooked shit happens
Goes back to Halls Creek
At the age of 21 off his own bat gets an apprenticeship in Adelaide and plays for Sturt as a small forward where he stars
Gets a crack at it in 2020 where he more than holds his own
Dropped 2 weeks ago gets back in and plays a ripper against the the Eagles
Is 23 rd in The Coleman averaging 2 goals a game not bad for a small forward in a below average side
His history suggested the perfect pedigree for a late bloomer

We passed him up for the ultimate cameo player and 2 picks in the 20s plus $700000 a year for 5 years of salary cap space
Only a dumb arse would manufacture this
He was granted the job by the board
Argument over dude


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 Post subject: Re: List Management 2021
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Turns 26 next month and is too inconsistent to retain a spot in the 15th placed team.
McAdam the messiah.

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 Post subject: Re: List Management 2021
PostPosted: Wed May 19, 2021 12:02 pm 
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Blue Vain wrote:
Turns 26 next month and is too inconsistent to retain a spot in the 15th placed team.
McAdam the messiah.


We can agree to disagree on many things BV but that’s a ridiculous thing to say given the events of the last few years

How much of our lack of improvement is due to poor List Management?


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 Post subject: Re: List Management 2021
PostPosted: Wed May 19, 2021 12:03 pm 
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That’s a question for you or anyone who wishes to answer
You know my thoughts what your thoughts


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 Post subject: Re: List Management 2021
PostPosted: Wed May 19, 2021 12:04 pm 
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That’s a question for you or anyone who wishes to answer
You know my thoughts what are your thoughts


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