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17 Players on the injury list
5, possibly 6, out for season

Counts for nothing?

Shades of 2002 when Brittain's team had 17 injured and Carlton's 1st spoon ever , and Ratten's team in 2012, had 14 out injured and missed the 8.
Both of these coaches lost their jobs.

WCE had 6 out and were reported as decimated by injury when they beat Carlton with 12 out.
Tigers have 3 best 22 and playing with 16 Premiership players and they reported as playing depleted.
Carlton had 14 missing on the weekend including the 2 KPF's and all players over 200cm except for 22yo developing ruckman and they were expected to beat a full stregth NM.

Doesn't look good for Teague, injuries or not.

https://www.carltonfc.com.au/news/988079/injury-news-updates-on-williams-mckay-betts-and-more

Player
Injury
Update

Eddie Betts Ankle
Jordan Boyd Knee
Levi Casboult Knee
David Cuningham Knee
Charlie Curnow Knee
Sam Docherty Ankle Season
Michael Gibbons Hamstring Season
Josh Honey Knee
Caleb Marchbank Knee Season
Oscar McDonald Back
Mitch McGovern Hamstring
Harry McKay Toe
Alex Mirkov Knee Season
Sam Philp Groin Season
Marc Pittonet Ankle Season possibly
Will Setterfield Groin
Zac Williams Hamstring

bondiblue wrote:

I saw that today.
Is it bad luck or something else?
It mentions that Harry will likely miss this week too.

2012 ended like this too, basically had no fit players left.

Betts should stop going for Mark of the Year before he retires. Selfish football in more ways than one. So where's the discipline? Rotten club.

Eddie Betts Ankle
Jordan Boyd Knee
Levi Casboult Knee
David Cuningham Knee
Charlie Curnow Knee
Sam Docherty Ankle Season
Marc Pittonet Ankle Season possibly
Harry McKay Toe
Alex Mirkov Knee Season
Josh Honey Knee
Caleb Marchbank Knee Season
Oscar McDonald Back

All of the above just plain old stiff shite. Not much Russell can do about those injuries

Below those are the debatable ones if you wanted to be picky.

Mitch McGovern Hamstring
Sam Philp Groin Season
Will Setterfield Groin
Zac Williams Hamstring
Michael Gibbons Hamstring Season

Regards Cazzesman

Amazed to look at the injury lists of the Preliminary Finalists after a season and a couple weeks of physically demanding Finals.

We were decimated with injury in the last 2 years but this year were usually missing 7-9 of our best 22, and at one stage 5 of our starting 6 forwards.

I think it was around round round 20 we had 17 out injured from a list of 42.

Injury played a big part in our dreadful season, and it must be noted.

https://www.afl.com.au/news/674805/medical-room-the-full-afl-injury-list-preliminary-finals

From Best 22 missing from Prelim teams:

Doggies
Josh Bruce season
Cody Weightman concussion
Bont will play

Port
None from best 22

Melbourne
Tomlison season

Geelong
Parfitt season
Stewart 2 weeks

Says it all doesn't it.

Lets hope Andrew Russell can add strength and muscle to the boys over summer.
I know he's careful not to allow too much muscle too early to avoid soft tissue injury and to keep speed up, but soft tissu injuries have been rife this year, so need to focus on that.

There was talk about Teague overriding Russell's recommendations and selected players with an injury cloud including Cripps (back), Williams (achilles), Saad (thigh), Martin (hamstring), Silvagni (shoulder), Docherty (shoulder), Casboult (knee)...all important players from early rounds I recall.

Maybe the players dismissed Russell's recommendations. Only the Review could tell us the truth.

Got no idea what happened to Gov, but when he pushed in a chase his hammy went...again.

Have to also face facts with some players not able to withstand the rigours of AFL football....and I'm not including Marchbank in that category because his neck injury was really serious afrom a courageous act and the ACL was just unfortunate in his first game back for 18 months.

I agree.
E.g. How is TDK after his injury in the last game?

Will Caleb and Cuners be fit for R1 2022?

Author:	kezza [ Mon Jul 26, 2021 6:59 pm ]
Post subject:	Re: 2021 injuries
bondiblue wrote: 17 Players on the injury list 5, possibly 6, out for season Counts for nothing? Shades of 2002 when Brittain's team had 17 injured and Carlton's 1st spoon ever , and Ratten's team in 2012, had 14 out injured and missed the 8. Both of these coaches lost their jobs. WCE had 6 out and were reported as decimated by injury when they beat Carlton with 12 out. Tigers have 3 best 22 and playing with 16 Premiership players and they reported as playing depleted. Carlton had 14 missing on the weekend including the 2 KPF's and all players over 200cm except for 22yo developing ruckman and they were expected to beat a full stregth NM. Doesn't look good for Teague, injuries or not. https://www.carltonfc.com.au/news/988079/injury-news-updates-on-williams-mckay-betts-and-more Player Injury Update Eddie Betts Ankle Jordan Boyd Knee Levi Casboult Knee David Cuningham Knee Charlie Curnow Knee Sam Docherty Ankle Season Michael Gibbons Hamstring Season Josh Honey Knee Caleb Marchbank Knee Season Oscar McDonald Back Mitch McGovern Hamstring Harry McKay Toe Alex Mirkov Knee Season Sam Philp Groin Season Marc Pittonet Ankle Season possibly Will Setterfield Groin Zac Williams Hamstring I saw that today. Is it bad luck or something else? It mentions that Harry will likely miss this week too.

Author:	bondiblue [ Mon Jul 26, 2021 8:03 pm ]
Post subject:	Re: 2021 injuries
kezza wrote: bondiblue wrote: 17 Players on the injury list 5, possibly 6, out for season Counts for nothing? Shades of 2002 when Brittain's team had 17 injured and Carlton's 1st spoon ever , and Ratten's team in 2012, had 14 out injured and missed the 8. Both of these coaches lost their jobs. WCE had 6 out and were reported as decimated by injury when they beat Carlton with 12 out. Tigers have 3 best 22 and playing with 16 Premiership players and they reported as playing depleted. Carlton had 14 missing on the weekend including the 2 KPF's and all players over 200cm except for 22yo developing ruckman and they were expected to beat a full stregth NM. Doesn't look good for Teague, injuries or not. https://www.carltonfc.com.au/news/988079/injury-news-updates-on-williams-mckay-betts-and-more Player Injury Update Eddie Betts Ankle Jordan Boyd Knee Levi Casboult Knee David Cuningham Knee Charlie Curnow Knee Sam Docherty Ankle Season Michael Gibbons Hamstring Season Josh Honey Knee Caleb Marchbank Knee Season Oscar McDonald Back Mitch McGovern Hamstring Harry McKay Toe Alex Mirkov Knee Season Sam Philp Groin Season Marc Pittonet Ankle Season possibly Will Setterfield Groin Zac Williams Hamstring I saw that today. Is it bad luck or something else? It mentions that Harry will likely miss this week too. Its not good at all. Not good for anyone other than the opposition.

Author:	missnaut [ Mon Jul 26, 2021 8:43 pm ]
Post subject:	2021 injuries
2012 ended like this too, basically had no fit players left.

Author:	Paddycripps [ Mon Jul 26, 2021 9:53 pm ]
Post subject:	Re: 2021 injuries
Betts should stop going for Mark of the Year before he retires. Selfish football in more ways than one. So where's the discipline? Rotten club.

Author:	CK95 [ Mon Jul 26, 2021 10:05 pm ]
Post subject:	Re: 2021 injuries
missnaut wrote: 2012 ended like this too, basically had no fit players left. As did 2002 Sent from my SM-A115F using Tapatalk

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Author:	Cazzesman [ Mon Jul 26, 2021 10:47 pm ]
Post subject:	Re: 2021 injuries
Eddie Betts Ankle Jordan Boyd Knee Levi Casboult Knee David Cuningham Knee Charlie Curnow Knee Sam Docherty Ankle Season Marc Pittonet Ankle Season possibly Harry McKay Toe Alex Mirkov Knee Season Josh Honey Knee Caleb Marchbank Knee Season Oscar McDonald Back All of the above just plain old stiff shite. Not much Russell can do about those injuries Below those are the debatable ones if you wanted to be picky. Mitch McGovern Hamstring Sam Philp Groin Season Will Setterfield Groin Zac Williams Hamstring Michael Gibbons Hamstring Season Regards Cazzesman

Author:	bondiblue [ Tue Jul 27, 2021 10:15 am ]
Post subject:	Re: 2021 injuries
Paddycripps wrote: Betts should stop going for Mark of the Year before he retires. Selfish football in more ways than one. So where's the discipline? Rotten club. That's what CHF's are suppose to do

Author:	bondiblue [ Tue Jul 27, 2021 10:17 am ]
Post subject:	Re: 2021 injuries
Cazzesman wrote: Eddie Betts Ankle Jordan Boyd Knee Levi Casboult Knee David Cuningham Knee Charlie Curnow Knee Sam Docherty Ankle Season Marc Pittonet Ankle Season possibly Harry McKay Toe Alex Mirkov Knee Season Josh Honey Knee Caleb Marchbank Knee Season Oscar McDonald Back All of the above just plain old stiff shite. Not much Russell can do about those injuries Below those are the debatable ones if you wanted to be picky. Mitch McGovern Hamstring Sam Philp Groin Season Will Setterfield Groin Zac Williams Hamstring Michael Gibbons Hamstring Season Regards Cazzesman Don't shit me. Whats the scoop with Philp??? I wanted us to select Robertson in the Draft, and could have, but loved getting Kemp (also selected with an ACL), and Philp. I love the way Philp goes about it, and his pace is thrilling, let alone tackling and kicking for goal. Is his groin chronic..you know , don't you?

Author:	bondiblue [ Wed Sep 08, 2021 10:19 am ]
Post subject:	Re: 2021 injuries
Amazed to look at the injury lists of the Preliminary Finalists after a season and a couple weeks of physically demanding Finals. We were decimated with injury in the last 2 years but this year were usually missing 7-9 of our best 22, and at one stage 5 of our starting 6 forwards. I think it was around round round 20 we had 17 out injured from a list of 42. Injury played a big part in our dreadful season, and it must be noted. https://www.afl.com.au/news/674805/medical-room-the-full-afl-injury-list-preliminary-finals From Best 22 missing from Prelim teams: Doggies Josh Bruce season Cody Weightman concussion Bont will play Port None from best 22 Melbourne Tomlison season Geelong Parfitt season Stewart 2 weeks Says it all doesn't it. Lets hope Andrew Russell can add strength and muscle to the boys over summer. I know he's careful not to allow too much muscle too early to avoid soft tissue injury and to keep speed up, but soft tissu injuries have been rife this year, so need to focus on that. There was talk about Teague overriding Russell's recommendations and selected players with an injury cloud including Cripps (back), Williams (achilles), Saad (thigh), Martin (hamstring), Silvagni (shoulder), Docherty (shoulder), Casboult (knee)...all important players from early rounds I recall. Maybe the players dismissed Russell's recommendations. Only the Review could tell us the truth. Got no idea what happened to Gov, but when he pushed in a chase his hammy went...again. Have to also face facts with some players not able to withstand the rigours of AFL football....and I'm not including Marchbank in that category because his neck injury was really serious afrom a courageous act and the ACL was just unfortunate in his first game back for 18 months.

Author:	CK95 [ Wed Sep 08, 2021 11:20 am ]
Post subject:	Re: 2021 injuries
Very good points Bondi. You lose so much with long term injuries, not just the physical toll/recovery on the player themself, but the constant breaks in team cohesion/harmony also. We've had a horror run the last few years, especially to young players.

Author:	thryleon [ Wed Sep 08, 2021 2:30 pm ]
Post subject:	Re: 2021 injuries
bondiblue wrote: Amazed to look at the injury lists of the Preliminary Finalists after a season and a couple weeks of physically demanding Finals. We were decimated with injury in the last 2 years but this year were usually missing 7-9 of our best 22, and at one stage 5 of our starting 6 forwards. I think it was around round round 20 we had 17 out injured from a list of 42. Injury played a big part in our dreadful season, and it must be noted. https://www.afl.com.au/news/674805/medical-room-the-full-afl-injury-list-preliminary-finals From Best 22 missing from Prelim teams: Doggies Josh Bruce season Cody Weightman concussion Bont will play Port None from best 22 Melbourne Tomlison season Geelong Parfitt season Stewart 2 weeks Says it all doesn't it. Lets hope Andrew Russell can add strength and muscle to the boys over summer. I know he's careful not to allow too much muscle too early to avoid soft tissue injury and to keep speed up, but soft tissu injuries have been rife this year, so need to focus on that. There was talk about Teague overriding Russell's recommendations and selected players with an injury cloud including Cripps (back), Williams (achilles), Saad (thigh), Martin (hamstring), Silvagni (shoulder), Docherty (shoulder), Casboult (knee)...all important players from early rounds I recall. Maybe the players dismissed Russell's recommendations. Only the Review could tell us the truth. Got no idea what happened to Gov, but when he pushed in a chase his hammy went...again. Have to also face facts with some players not able to withstand the rigours of AFL football....and I'm not including Marchbank in that category because his neck injury was really serious afrom a courageous act and the ACL was just unfortunate in his first game back for 18 months. Interesting.

Author:	GWS [ Wed Sep 08, 2021 2:40 pm ]
Post subject:	Re: 2021 injuries
It’s entirely possible that Russell along with all the other “high performance” medicos out there aren’t actually messiahs and just have to deal with what happens to their lists which may just be dumb luck. Who’s to say Russell’s time at the Hawks or Richmond’s experience until this year wasn’t just good fortune?

Author:	GMCbris [ Wed Sep 08, 2021 2:59 pm ]
Post subject:	Re: 2021 injuries
Id like to see an injury update About when some of these injured will be back at training, and when will they be ready to play next year. I also felt our long list in the ambulance tent made it hard to win games last year.

Author:	CFC8795 [ Wed Sep 08, 2021 3:20 pm ]
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I agree. E.g. How is TDK after his injury in the last game?

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Author:	Paddycripps [ Thu Sep 09, 2021 3:41 pm ]
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Will Caleb and Cuners be fit for R1 2022?

Author:	GMCbris [ Thu Sep 09, 2021 4:34 pm ]
Post subject:	Re: 2021 injuries
CFC8795 wrote: I agree. E.g. How is TDK after his injury in the last game? Paddycripps wrote: Will Caleb and Cuners be fit for R1 2022? Exactly the questions I want answered. Give us more to look forward to

Author:	snakehips [ Fri Sep 10, 2021 9:21 am ]
Post subject:	Re: 2021 injuries
Paddycripps wrote: Will Caleb and Cuners be fit for R1 2022? Cuners did his ACL in mid-May, so I reckon you'd have to be pretty optimistic to think he'd be ready to go round 1. You'd think Marchbank would be more likely to be ready, assuming he's still on the list, but remember who we're dealing with here.