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Donstuie wrote:

Bit drastic

I agree. A good thrashing would be sufficient.

We've hit a flat patch at a bad time, partially due to the compressed fixture. It's disappointing, but understandable.

Donstuie wrote:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UrN_zby-3bE

Perfectly summed up Terry.

Thanks Donstuie

I love the way Terry goes about it, and enjoy new website and how it was always going to inevitably evolve, such is our thirst for content, despite that, I don't think he is consistent with his mantra.

Happy to promote anything and everything to all Carltonians. Good of you to help him out too. True Carltonian Donstuie.

http://www.blueabroad.com.au

Blue Sombrero wrote:

Donstuie wrote:

Bit drastic

I agree. A good thrashing would be sufficient.

You need to contact a local Mexican drug lord to assist.

They know their way around a good thrashing.....I watched Narcos, so I'm up with it all.

MOST QUARTERS WON FOR YEAR:
Geelong - 38
Bris, Port - 36
Carlton, St.K - 34

LEAST QUARTERS LOST FOR YEAR:
Geelong - 21
Bris, Port - 22
Rich - 24
Carlton, St.K, GWS - 25

Hmmm. Like being 4th for Inside 50's we're 4th for overall quarters won.
Should be in finals with double-chance.

Now about those 4+ goal runs by opposition...

bluechampion wrote:

We've hit a flat patch at a bad time, partially due to the compressed fixture. It's disappointing, but understandable.

It isn't understandable to me after hearing that Russell has conditioned our boys to be highly competitive for the compressed part of the season.

All I've heard is excuses and what's to come this year.
TBH, the way we have finished reminds me how the "Do you know what the Blues are cooking campaign".

Really disappointing end to the season against Pies, GWS, Swans, Crows.
Nearly every player, and definetely every off field Player support staff (psychs, fitness, coaches) failed big time

If we lose against Lions, then I would say 2020 was nearly a disaster they way we ended the lastrd of the shortened season and how lucky we are we didn't have a 22 round season.

CC1961 wrote:

Shows how bad qtrs, not turning up to play etc, have killed us. We really should be in the finals with 10-11 wins. 5 times we conceded 5-7 goal leads in the first qtr and a half. Won one. Some games there totally pissed down the drain for no reason and totally unacceptable. The other games where we had runs on against us or choked it up in the last qtrs against thee Pies and GWS, while greatly frustrating, is a part of learning and development. Not acceptable but can be expected. At least we worked to put ourselves in the right position. To not turn up though in those 5 games, that shits me. How hard is it for well paid players to at least be ready to play when the ball is bounced. We are better than some of the sides above us but pissed gold-plated opportunities down the drain. Only way I can accept that in any form is if we learn and develop from it. Otherwise that bad culture has let us down again.

Teague could have stopped the run ons that cost us against Collingwood, GWS and almost Geelong but he is a systems man and not a game day coach's arsehole.

Donstuie wrote:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UrN_zby-3bE

Perfectly summed up Terry.

bondiblue wrote:

Donstuie wrote:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UrN_zby-3bE

Perfectly summed up Terry.

I want to see Keogh's version of this - I think he will make Terry look like a pussycat

bondiblue wrote:

Donstuie wrote:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UrN_zby-3bE

Perfectly summed up Terry.

I want to see Keogh's version of this - I think he will make Terry look like a pussycat

bondiblue wrote:

Donstuie wrote:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UrN_zby-3bE

Perfectly summed up Terry.

I want to see Keogh's version of this - I think he will make Terry look like a pussycat

Donstuie wrote:

Bit drastic

I agree. A good thrashing would be sufficient.

Sorry Jim, pls excuse my ignorance, but what do the % figures mean?

cheers,

CC

CC1961 wrote:

Sorry Jim, pls excuse my ignorance, but what do the % figures mean?

cheers,

CC

Ladder positions for the each qtr, wins/losses for the qtr, and the percentage for the qtr.

Essentially a league ladder for each qtr.

Individually. we were

9th 8-8 1st qtr 87%
10th 8-8 2nd qtr 87%
6th 9-6-1 3rd qtr 107%
3rd 11-5 last qtrs 104%

Greater 2nd half team, specially last qtrs, except when we choked.

Author:	muzza [ Mon Sep 14, 2020 2:53 pm ]
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Blue Sombrero wrote: Donstuie wrote: Bit drastic I agree. A good thrashing would be sufficient. You need to contact a local Mexican drug lord to assist. They know their way around a good thrashing.....I watched Narcos, so I'm up with it all.

Author:	bondiblue [ Mon Sep 14, 2020 2:57 pm ]
Post subject:	Re: R17 Carlton v Adelaide (Post match discussion)
bluechampion wrote: We've hit a flat patch at a bad time, partially due to the compressed fixture. It's disappointing, but understandable. It isn't understandable to me after hearing that Russell has conditioned our boys to be highly competitive for the compressed part of the season. All I've heard is excuses and what's to come this year. TBH, the way we have finished reminds me how the "Do you know what the Blues are cooking campaign". Really disappointing end to the season against Pies, GWS, Swans, Crows. Nearly every player, and definetely every off field Player support staff (psychs, fitness, coaches) failed big time If we lose against Lions, then I would say 2020 was nearly a disaster they way we ended the lastrd of the shortened season and how lucky we are we didn't have a 22 round season.

Author:	bondiblue [ Mon Sep 14, 2020 3:05 pm ]
Post subject:	Re: R17 Carlton v Adelaide (Post match discussion)
Donstuie wrote: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UrN_zby-3bE Perfectly summed up Terry. Thanks Donstuie I love the way Terry goes about it, and enjoy new website and how it was always going to inevitably evolve, such is our thirst for content, despite that, I don't think he is consistent with his mantra. Happy to promote anything and everything to all Carltonians. Good of you to help him out too. True Carltonian Donstuie. www.blueabroad.com.au

Author:	keogh [ Mon Sep 14, 2020 4:21 pm ]
Post subject:	Re: R17 Carlton v Adelaide (Post match discussion)
bondiblue wrote: Donstuie wrote: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UrN_zby-3bE Perfectly summed up Terry. Thanks Donstuie I love the way Terry goes about it, and enjoy new website and how it was always going to inevitably evolve, such is our thirst for content, despite that, I don't think he is consistent with his mantra. Happy to promote anything and everything to all Carltonians. Good of you to help him out too. True Carltonian Donstuie. http://www.blueabroad.com.au Well said

Author:	CC1961 [ Mon Sep 14, 2020 4:26 pm ]
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muzza wrote: Blue Sombrero wrote: Donstuie wrote: Bit drastic I agree. A good thrashing would be sufficient. You need to contact a local Mexican drug lord to assist. They know their way around a good thrashing.....I watched Narcos, so I'm up with it all. Yeah, but wouldn't they be more inclined to go with my original... Yikes, which I just went looking for to quote here but errr...ahhh.. Mod.Deleted? It was intended in "metaphorical" terms guys. Sheesh. Yet I'm not the one talking about Mexican Drug Lords...

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Author:	jim [ Mon Sep 14, 2020 5:16 pm ]
Post subject:	Re: R17 Carlton v Adelaide (Post match discussion)
CC1961 wrote: MOST QUARTERS WON FOR YEAR: Geelong - 38 Bris, Port - 36 Carlton, St.K - 34 LEAST QUARTERS LOST FOR YEAR: Geelong - 21 Bris, Port - 22 Rich - 24 Carlton, St.K, GWS - 25 Hmmm. Like being 4th for Inside 50's we're 4th for overall quarters won. Should be in finals with double-chance. Now about those 4+ goal runs by opposition... Shows how bad qtrs, not turning up to play etc, have killed us. We really should be in the finals with 10-11 wins. 5 times we conceded 5-7 goal leads in the first qtr and a half. Won one. Some games there totally pissed down the drain for no reason and totally unacceptable. The other games where we had runs on against us or choked it up in the last qtrs against thee Pies and GWS, while greatly frustrating, is a part of learning and development. Not acceptable but can be expected. At least we worked to put ourselves in the right position. To not turn up though in those 5 games, that shits me. How hard is it for well paid players to at least be ready to play when the ball is bounced. We are better than some of the sides above us but pissed gold-plated opportunities down the drain. Only way I can accept that in any form is if we learn and develop from it. Otherwise that bad culture has let us down again.

Author:	jim [ Mon Sep 14, 2020 5:25 pm ]
Post subject:	Re: R17 Carlton v Adelaide (Post match discussion)
bondiblue wrote: bluechampion wrote: We've hit a flat patch at a bad time, partially due to the compressed fixture. It's disappointing, but understandable. It isn't understandable to me after hearing that Russell has conditioned our boys to be highly competitive for the compressed part of the season. All I've heard is excuses and what's to come this year. TBH, the way we have finished reminds me how the "Do you know what the Blues are cooking campaign". Really disappointing end to the season against Pies, GWS, Swans, Crows. Nearly every player, and definetely every off field Player support staff (psychs, fitness, coaches) failed big time If we lose against Lions, then I would say 2020 was nearly a disaster they way we ended the lastrd of the shortened season and how lucky we are we didn't have a 22 round season. 7 wins is about 9.25 wins in a normal season. Similar to Ratten's first year. Not a disaster from that point but pissing gold plated chances to make finals down the drain is. 8 is about 10.4. COVID hurt us more than alot of sides. given where we come form we had alot to work on, especially that connect between the midfield and forward line. When you can only train with 8 at a time with fewer sessions there was no chance to sort that or work on ways to defend run ones. The season favored sides with highly entrenched game styles where everything is automatic. Given where we come from that certainly wasn't us.

Author:	CC1961 [ Mon Sep 14, 2020 5:30 pm ]
Post subject:	Re: R17 Carlton v Adelaide (Post match discussion)
jim wrote: CC1961 wrote: MOST QUARTERS WON FOR YEAR: Geelong - 38 Bris, Port - 36 Carlton, St.K - 34 LEAST QUARTERS LOST FOR YEAR: Geelong - 21 Bris, Port - 22 Rich - 24 Carlton, St.K, GWS - 25 Hmmm. Like being 4th for Inside 50's we're 4th for overall quarters won. Should be in finals with double-chance. Now about those 4+ goal runs by opposition... Shows how bad qtrs, not turning up to play etc, have killed us. We really should be in the finals with 10-11 wins. 5 times we conceded 5-7 goal leads in the first qtr and a half. Won one. Some games there totally pissed down the drain for no reason and totally unacceptable. The other games where we had runs on against us or choked it up in the last qtrs against thee Pies and GWS, while greatly frustrating, is a part of learning and development. Not acceptable but can be expected. At least we worked to put ourselves in the right position. To not turn up though in those 5 games, that shits me. How hard is it for well paid players to at least be ready to play when the ball is bounced. We are better than some of the sides above us but pissed gold-plated opportunities down the drain. Only way I can accept that in any form is if we learn and develop from it. Otherwise that bad culture has let us down again. Excellent summary Jim. btw, oop! forgot to add latest round (not that it changes anything but, you know, for accuracy) MOST QUARTERS WON FOR YEAR: Geelong - 40 Bris, Port - 39 Carlton, St.K - 36

Author:	Blue Sombrero [ Tue Sep 15, 2020 12:10 am ]
Post subject:	Re: R17 Carlton v Adelaide (Post match discussion)
Teague could have stopped the run ons that cost us against Collingwood, GWS and almost Geelong but he is a systems man and not a game day coach's arsehole.

Author:	CC1961 [ Tue Sep 15, 2020 3:39 am ]
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Blue Sombrero wrote: Teague could have stopped the run ons that cost us against Collingwood, GWS and almost Geelong but he is a systems man and not a game day coach's arsehole. That's it then. We're never gonna win finals with him. Sick n tired of us being out-coached on game day for 2 decades. I hope he exits by the shortest means possible.

Author:	Sydney Blue [ Tue Sep 15, 2020 9:53 am ]
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bondiblue wrote: Donstuie wrote: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UrN_zby-3bE Perfectly summed up Terry. Thanks Donstuie I love the way Terry goes about it, and enjoy new website and how it was always going to inevitably evolve, such is our thirst for content, despite that, I don't think he is consistent with his mantra. Happy to promote anything and everything to all Carltonians. Good of you to help him out too. True Carltonian Donstuie. http://www.blueabroad.com.au I want to see Keogh's version of this - I think he will make Terry look like a pussycat

Author:	CFC8795 [ Tue Sep 15, 2020 10:04 am ]
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Sydney Blue wrote: bondiblue wrote: Donstuie wrote: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UrN_zby-3bE Perfectly summed up Terry. Thanks Donstuie I love the way Terry goes about it, and enjoy new website and how it was always going to inevitably evolve, such is our thirst for content, despite that, I don't think he is consistent with his mantra. Happy to promote anything and everything to all Carltonians. Good of you to help him out too. True Carltonian Donstuie. http://www.blueabroad.com.au I want to see Keogh's version of this - I think he will make Terry look like a pussycat Me too. Bring it on!

Author:	Scotty12000 [ Tue Sep 15, 2020 10:42 am ]
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Sydney Blue wrote: bondiblue wrote: Donstuie wrote: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UrN_zby-3bE Perfectly summed up Terry. Thanks Donstuie I love the way Terry goes about it, and enjoy new website and how it was always going to inevitably evolve, such is our thirst for content, despite that, I don't think he is consistent with his mantra. Happy to promote anything and everything to all Carltonians. Good of you to help him out too. True Carltonian Donstuie. http://www.blueabroad.com.au I want to see Keogh's version of this - I think he will make Terry look like a pussycat At least if it's audio we won't have to endure his atrocious spelling

Author:	keogh [ Tue Sep 15, 2020 12:20 pm ]
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Sydney Blue wrote: bondiblue wrote: Donstuie wrote: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UrN_zby-3bE Perfectly summed up Terry. Thanks Donstuie I love the way Terry goes about it, and enjoy new website and how it was always going to inevitably evolve, such is our thirst for content, despite that, I don't think he is consistent with his mantra. Happy to promote anything and everything to all Carltonians. Good of you to help him out too. True Carltonian Donstuie. http://www.blueabroad.com.au I want to see Keogh's version of this - I think he will make Terry look like a pussycat With a bit of Dirty Harry

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Author:	99prelim [ Tue Sep 15, 2020 12:53 pm ]
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Blue Sombrero wrote: Donstuie wrote: Bit drastic I agree. A good thrashing would be sufficient. Would you consider something in between? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fZMoB6ms2mE

Author:	jim [ Tue Sep 15, 2020 12:55 pm ]
Post subject:	Re: R17 Carlton v Adelaide (Post match discussion)
CC1961 wrote: MOST QUARTERS WON FOR YEAR: Geelong - 38 Bris, Port - 36 Carlton, St.K - 34 LEAST QUARTERS LOST FOR YEAR: Geelong - 21 Bris, Port - 22 Rich - 24 Carlton, St.K, GWS - 25 Hmmm. Like being 4th for Inside 50's we're 4th for overall quarters won. Should be in finals with double-chance. Now about those 4+ goal runs by opposition... Individually. we were 9th 8-8 1st qtr 87% 10th 8-8 2nd qtr 87% 6th 9-6-1 3rd qtr 107% 3rd 11-5 last qtrs 104% Greater 2nd half team, specially last qtrs, except when we choked.

Author:	CC1961 [ Tue Sep 15, 2020 1:58 pm ]
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Sorry Jim, pls excuse my ignorance, but what do the % figures mean? cheers, CC

Author:	jim [ Tue Sep 15, 2020 7:42 pm ]
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CC1961 wrote: Sorry Jim, pls excuse my ignorance, but what do the % figures mean? cheers, CC Ladder positions for the each qtr, wins/losses for the qtr, and the percentage for the qtr. Essentially a league ladder for each qtr.

Author:	bondiblue [ Tue Sep 15, 2020 9:22 pm ]
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jim wrote: CC1961 wrote: Sorry Jim, pls excuse my ignorance, but what do the % figures mean? cheers, CC Ladder positions for the each qtr, wins/losses for the qtr, and the percentage for the qtr. Essentially a league ladder for each qtr. Noice jim. Makes CC61's numbers look like he's done some prozac

Author:	bluedog [ Tue Sep 15, 2020 9:26 pm ]
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jim wrote: Individually. we were 9th 8-8 1st qtr 87% 10th 8-8 2nd qtr 87% 6th 9-6-1 3rd qtr 107% 3rd 11-5 last qtrs 104% Greater 2nd half team, specially last qtrs, except when we choked. Interesting, jim, and thanks for this.