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PostPosted: Fri Apr 23, 2021 7:43 pm 
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I fear that this club cannot see the forest for the trees.

It believe it’s own spin, which is a philosophy and set of values thought up by someone who knows nothing about winning games of footy. It’s been described on here before that this corporate talk is blinding the players and hindering our performance....consistently wining games of footy. You hear Sam docherty week after week say. I know success is just around the corner, but I fear he is buying into the bullshit spin that infiltrates the club. How does he know success is around the corner? He has not been part of winning forty teams!

The worst result this weekend is if we win by two goals because we will then sit on our butts the next week and lose that game.

Culture and identity. I sound like a broken record but we are going nowhere while these two issues aren’t properly addressed


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PostPosted: Fri Apr 23, 2021 9:55 pm 
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BlueJean wrote:
I fear that this club cannot see the forest for the trees.

It believe it’s own spin, which is a philosophy and set of values thought up by someone who knows nothing about winning games of footy. It’s been described on here before that this corporate talk is blinding the players and hindering our performance....consistently wining games of footy. You hear Sam docherty week after week say. I know success is just around the corner, but I fear he is buying into the bullshit spin that infiltrates the club. How does he know success is around the corner? He has not been part of winning forty teams!

The worst result this weekend is if we win by two goals because we will then sit on our butts the next week and lose that game.

Culture and identity. I sound like a broken record but we are going nowhere while these two issues aren’t properly addressed


I will take that anyday of the week, and if it happens I will remind everyone we did it with 11 out injured, and that we can when we come to win.

Lets win it first though

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PostPosted: Fri Apr 23, 2021 10:02 pm 
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At the end of the day it’s purely semantics whether Murphy makes it to 300 games or not. Does 290 games make him a lesser player!?!?

It’s this culture of playing someone who does f—k all that is killing this club.

For heavens sake, get fair dinkum serious and play players on merit!

It’s time this club grew up and started showing accountability and leadership like it did under Parko.

As Keough says, times have changed and it not necessarily is for the better.

Nonetheless, when Richmond players speak they come across as level headed, mature blokes. Our players act all squibbish and appear completely unsure of themselves.

Now, is this a reflection on the coach. I say it is. The coach sets the standards and the culture. All else follows...



If Carlton can nurse the toothless balded headed MM from another club to 300
Surely we can nurse the metrosexual pretty boy MM from our own club to 300

Carlton insuring the MM's get to 300


Brilliant Syd-e-ney

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PostPosted: Fri Apr 23, 2021 10:06 pm 
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I’m sorry but for all those backers of Teague l, I ask you, isn’t it plainly obvious that our current coach is missing the mark in so many areas.

Bring in Woosha.



Worsfold should be the last choice. He's been sacked from 2 clubs because of this strategic inability and inflexible approach.
Teague deserves the opportunity but the pressure is on him to perform. Giving the job to Worsfold would be a disaster.


Exactly

Players have to commit to 100% brutal football.
Ensure the opposition know they've played in a team that doesn't shirk the contest.

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PostPosted: Fri Apr 23, 2021 10:08 pm 
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Navy Blue Horse wrote:
Shit selections again (the outs), absolute jellyfish is Teague


Dropped the two I wanted out.

Can't wait till Philp and Honey step up and start knocking the door down.

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PostPosted: Fri Apr 23, 2021 10:28 pm 
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bondiblue wrote:
Navy Blue Horse wrote:
Shit selections again (the outs), absolute jellyfish is Teague


Dropped the two I wanted out.

Can't wait till Philp and Honey step up and start knocking the door down.


Yep...and they'll replace one of Cottrell, Cunningham and Stocker

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PostPosted: Fri Apr 23, 2021 10:42 pm 
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99prelim wrote:
bondiblue wrote:
Navy Blue Horse wrote:
Shit selections again (the outs), absolute jellyfish is Teague


Dropped the two I wanted out.

Can't wait till Philp and Honey step up and start knocking the door down.


Yep...and they'll replace one of Cottrell, Cunningham and Stocker



wash, rinse, repeat

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PostPosted: Sat Apr 24, 2021 1:58 pm 
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Woosha won't be in the coaching box today.
He travelled from Perth and has to have a negative covid result. Apparently not enough time for it to come through.


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PostPosted: Sat Apr 24, 2021 2:07 pm 
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99prelim wrote:
bondiblue wrote:
Navy Blue Horse wrote:
Shit selections again (the outs), absolute jellyfish is Teague


Dropped the two I wanted out.

Can't wait till Philp and Honey step up and start knocking the door down.


Yep...and they'll replace one of Cottrell, Cunningham and Stocker



Not if they play well.

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PostPosted: Sat Apr 24, 2021 3:26 pm 
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https://www.afl.com.au/news/599396

Champion Data's time-in-position stats show a number of Carlton's blue-chip recruits from its five-year rebuild are no longer playing in the roles where they flourished as junior prospects.

Sam Petrevski-Seton was recruited to the club as a ball-hunting, strong-tackling contested midfielder with the sixth selection in the 2016 NAB AFL Draft. But he's played 98.3 percent game time in the backline this season.

David Cuningham was also a first-round pick when he arrived in 2015, drafted as a quick midfielder who looked most threatening using his breakaway speed at stoppages. He's played 84.3 percent forward over the last three seasons.

Will Setterfield and Matt Kennedy weren't drafted by Carlton, but were both recruited from Greater Western Sydney. Setterfield was a tough, mobile and skilful modern midfielder, Kennedy a tall, contested onballer who thrived at stoppages.

But the former has been used on a wing for 68.5 percent of this season and the latter has been used forward for 71 percent of the last three years. Both have been dropped from the senior team over the last month.

It's a similar story for Paddy Dow, who was drafted with the third pick in 2017 as a tough, explosive contested midfielder but has played 54.7 percent game time forward this year. He has found himself in an attack that also features natural midfielders like Michael Gibbons, Marc Murphy and Zac Fisher.

Liam Stocker, another first-round pick, will make his way back into the Carlton team for the first time since 2019 on Saturday. But he will do so having won 38 disposals playing across half-back in the VFL last week. That's despite being drafted as the Morrish Medal winner for his prolific contested work in the midfield as a junior.

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PostPosted: Sat Apr 24, 2021 5:38 pm 
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Another 5 goal streak.

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PostPosted: Sat Apr 24, 2021 5:44 pm 
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Worsfold has a lot of work to do.

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PostPosted: Sat Apr 24, 2021 5:44 pm 
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Don’t let the door hit you on the way out


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PostPosted: Sat Apr 24, 2021 6:07 pm 
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Today it really feels like he's lost the players. Even last week I felt the effort was there but not today.


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PostPosted: Sat Apr 24, 2021 6:32 pm 
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“I have a lot of belief in this group”

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PostPosted: Sat Apr 24, 2021 6:57 pm 
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AIRCAV wrote:
Bulldogs. Top of the ladder. 5 players dropped from a winning team.

Kulture


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PostPosted: Sat Apr 24, 2021 7:12 pm 
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grrofunger wrote:
Worsfold has a lot of work to do.


What’s his first 22 going to be?


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PostPosted: Sat Apr 24, 2021 7:13 pm 
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missnaut wrote:
Today it really feels like he's lost the players. Even last week I felt the effort was there but not today.


I’m feeling it now too. No structure, tried to change things up and same old same old lack of structure.

We need a midfielder and we have Stocker in defence? fMD.


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PostPosted: Sat Apr 24, 2021 7:24 pm 
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It’s not like Stocker was starved of opportunity today.

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He kicked a great goal

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