He just said he'd consider it

Teague may well have the capacity to be a good tactician down the track but he needs to harden the @#$%&! up. Our players play the football he allows them to.
Not running defensively, not attacking the ball sufficiently, playing selfish football. It's all being validated by the failure to drop the culprits. He can blame the players in his presser but actions tell the story.

Lyon won't join the club due to the SOS issue... they are best mates.

Let's get both of them

He will be lucky to last 10 weeks let alone 10 years if the team plays the rest of the season like it has for the first 12 weeks - the rest of the season has to be fundamentally different -another insipid performance against GWS next weekend will come close to sealing his fate
Every commentator talks about Carlton lacking a hard edge can’t defend and have a lot of talented footballers who are underperforming
Yes the players must take some responsibility BUT WHAT is the coach doing

Don't agree there - H, Weitering and Walsh are performing above expectations. Our leaders in Docherty, Cripps and Murphy should be playing hard edge unconditionally.

The issues of underperformance is SPS and Dow... unfortunately not all picks are going to make it. Setterfield is a talent and needs to pull his finger out. Playing with a hard edge without midfield talent is kind of difficult and has been the story for years its not something that magically appeared this year.

So let me get this right, Setterfield is a talent and needs to pull his finger out but Dow & SpS aren't talented? Now you lost me, sorry,
Our list is chock full of talent, it's just they haven't been developed very well.

Former AFL recruiter Matt Rendell is predicting Carlton to part ways with senior coach David Teague at the end of the season.

Speaking on SEN’s Dwayne’s World, Rendell thinks a coach with a “hard edge” and better “footy IQ” like Alastair Clarkson is required to get the best out of Carlton’s list.

“Does Teague survive this review? I’m picking right here, right now he doesn’t,” Rendell said.

“What I watched of Carlton on the weekend, and I know a lot's been said, they need a hard edge in that team, and he (Clarkson) would provide it.

“I don’t think Teague is providing that hard edge in the coaching department. Their footy IQ was abysmal last weekend.

“Carlton with a change of coach and a real tough, mean mindset – which we know ‘Clarko’ will provide – they’re a real chance to finish in the top four with their list.”

So let me get this right, Setterfield is a talent and needs to pull his finger out but Dow & SpS aren't talented? Now you lost me, sorry,
Our list is chock full of talent, it's just they haven't been developed very well.

So let me get this right, Setterfield is a talent and needs to pull his finger out but Dow & SpS aren't talented? Now you lost me, sorry,
Our list is chock full of talent, it's just they haven't been developed very well.

They're all talented - Setterfield has shown more as a 21 year old when he debut coming back from injury

Fogarty is same age as Dow and far exceeding him at the moment and been out of senior football for three years.

I think Dow and SPS are close to peaking as talents - they have 50 games under their belts and not shown much only glimpses.

I am so confused too.
One minute they aren't talented, next minute they are.
Setterfield and Fogerty were both developed at clubs that can develop players before coming to Carlton, but now they are the bench mark even though the whole football world knows how bad we are at developing players and then playing them out of position.

Will I think they are talented now but won't improve in future.. so in other words, not good enough.

I reckon they will under a new coach, like Clarkson or Mitchell.
And if they don't, then move them on.

I am sorry - to bring Clarkson or Mitchell in for SPS and Dow to the detriment of all others is kind of silly.

Is that fact, or opinion.

You sound like Robbo, but he's a Carlton hater, and doesn't understand the business of football.

https://www.sen.com.au/news/2021/06/09/ ... ospective/






Like I always say, and I think its in my signature below...Don't believe anythiong the carlton haters say about Carlton. You'll probably find the worst offenders are actually Effendruggie supporters moreso than journalists.

Robbo can GAGF with all his opinions. He's sloppy, defensive, bias and just a plain old yobbo with position in a paper he has devalued since taking over from Mike Sheehan.

Sure if they are able to ruck or play midfield and land a tackle and have good skills otherwise back to the drawing board again.

Walshy, if we had a respected and successful coach and footy manager we become a destination club, its that simple.

We are already a destination club. No coach would be able to perform without a midfield is my point.