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PostPosted: Sat Jun 19, 2021 10:31 pm 
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Mike Fitzpatrick

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MPH78 wrote:
Someone please explain to me how every team we play can exit out of our F50 and get to their F50 without ANY pressure and we STILL allow a contested mark in their F50? What are we defending? Why haven’t we addressed this?

If all our issues are apparently due to our lack of midfield, as head coach, wouldn’t you prioritise having much more robust defensive structures that are actually AFL standard?

We have deep issues and it’s not all Teague’s fault but this has got untenable written all over it.

Becasue defense is an after thought for our coach.


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PostPosted: Sat Jun 19, 2021 10:32 pm 
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He's taking us backwards. Club have to act.


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PostPosted: Sat Jun 19, 2021 10:33 pm 
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Good post MP thought exactly that
Just torture watching it


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PostPosted: Sat Jun 19, 2021 10:37 pm 
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MPH78 wrote:
Someone please explain to me how every team we play can exit out of our F50 and get to their F50 without ANY pressure and we STILL allow a contested mark in their F50? What are we defending? Why haven’t we addressed this?

If all our issues are apparently due to our lack of midfield, as head coach, wouldn’t you prioritise having much more robust defensive structures that are actually AFL standard?

We have deep issues and it’s not all Teague’s fault but this has got untenable written all over it.


Great post. Been lamenting this all season


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PostPosted: Sat Jun 19, 2021 10:38 pm 
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david31 wrote:
Our players are pathetic
They quit on the coach every second or third year without fail
Has been that way for a while now
We need a senior coach who will not accept shit and weed out the weak players
Teague isn’t doing it
At this point I’m not even sure if anyone can turn the culture of this club around but it sure isn’t David who has had 24 months and no tangible improvement in mindset and culture


Very well summed up. We need an extremely strong leader to change our culture. Teague clearly isn’t up to it


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PostPosted: Sat Jun 19, 2021 10:40 pm 
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Players give up on a coach because the game plan they have been told works doesn't work. Effort becomes futile.


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PostPosted: Sat Jun 19, 2021 10:41 pm 
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MPH78 wrote:
Someone please explain to me how every team we play can exit out of our F50 and get to their F50 without ANY pressure and we STILL allow a contested mark in their F50? What are we defending? Why haven’t we addressed this?

If all our issues are apparently due to our lack of midfield, as head coach, wouldn’t you prioritise having much more robust defensive structures that are actually AFL standard?

We have deep issues and it’s not all Teague’s fault but this has got untenable written all over it.


I think it stems from our midfield bombing it in so it mostly gets intercepted and ran straight out.
We should be looking laterally.
You often see a player 70meters out bombing on top of our forwards heads, and players like saad
Are 60 meters out other side of ground and we bomb instead of switching across the ground.
It’s pretty simple if you get a clearance and there’s a player on the Lead hit them up, if there’s no Lead look to attack from a different angle.


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PostPosted: Sat Jun 19, 2021 10:46 pm 
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Not calling for his head because it is more than him what is wrong.
However he is in serious trouble.



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PostPosted: Sat Jun 19, 2021 10:53 pm 
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MPH78 wrote:
Someone please explain to me how every team we play can exit out of our F50 and get to their F50 without ANY pressure and we STILL allow a contested mark in their F50? What are we defending? Why haven’t we addressed this?

If all our issues are apparently due to our lack of midfield, as head coach, wouldn’t you prioritise having much more robust defensive structures that are actually AFL standard?

We have deep issues and it’s not all Teague’s fault but this has got untenable written all over it.


According to Teague in his presser during the week there's nothing wrong with our defensive strategies or system.
There's your problem


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PostPosted: Sat Jun 19, 2021 10:53 pm 
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mymanmurph wrote:
MPH78 wrote:
Someone please explain to me how every team we play can exit out of our F50 and get to their F50 without ANY pressure and we STILL allow a contested mark in their F50? What are we defending? Why haven’t we addressed this?

If all our issues are apparently due to our lack of midfield, as head coach, wouldn’t you prioritise having much more robust defensive structures that are actually AFL standard?

We have deep issues and it’s not all Teague’s fault but this has got untenable written all over it.


I think it stems from our midfield bombing it in so it mostly gets intercepted and ran straight out.
We should be looking laterally.
You often see a player 70meters out bombing on top of our forwards heads, and players like saad
Are 60 meters out other side of ground and we bomb instead of switching across the ground.
It’s pretty simple if you get a clearance and there’s a player on the Lead hit them up, if there’s no Lead look to attack from a different angle.


You're actually micro analysing? Seriously?


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PostPosted: Sat Jun 19, 2021 10:55 pm 
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Disappointment peppered with hopelessness


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PostPosted: Sat Jun 19, 2021 11:00 pm 
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Paddycripps wrote:
Players give up on a coach because the game plan they have been told works doesn't work. Effort becomes futile.


There’s nothing stopping players doing the little things constantly, whoever the coach is. Play for pride in your own efforts and game. Tackling when our team doesn’t have the ball should need to be explained to professional players at AFL level. Dumb decision making is perhaps something that’s a deeper issue than effort.


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PostPosted: Sat Jun 19, 2021 11:04 pm 
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Okay, so who do people think should be our next coach?


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PostPosted: Sat Jun 19, 2021 11:05 pm 
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I think the players deserve to keep Teague as coach for another 5 years, I want them to suffer too.


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PostPosted: Sat Jun 19, 2021 11:06 pm 
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BUCKLEY


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PostPosted: Sat Jun 19, 2021 11:10 pm 
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cortez wrote:
Okay, so who do people think should be our next coach?


Marc Murphy


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PostPosted: Sat Jun 19, 2021 11:13 pm 
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frank dardew wrote:
BUCKLEY


Don’t know a single Pies fan who respects Buckley.


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PostPosted: Sat Jun 19, 2021 11:15 pm 
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PostPosted: Sat Jun 19, 2021 11:29 pm 
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I know plenty of Pies fans who wanted to retain him and were disappointed he was finishing up
Not sure fan base has much to do with it
I think he represents his club very well and has got a good coaching record


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PostPosted: Sat Jun 19, 2021 11:35 pm 
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I'd interview Mitchell and Yze.
We need some strategic nous in the coaches box.

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