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| Author: | Dominator_7 [ Wed May 28, 2014 1:11 pm ] |
| Post subject: | The Swann / Sticks / Ratten / Judd era |
Win the departure of Greg Swann and Sticks in June, and with Ratts and Judd already gone from their positions over the last 18 mths to 2 years, how do people think, history will judge the Swann / Kernahan / Ratten / Judd era of 2008 -2013 ? |
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| Author: | pinnell [ Wed May 28, 2014 1:45 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: The Swann / Sticks / Ratten / Judd era |
A sh8tload of members money flushed down the dunny... ..the reason why I only bought a general membership instead of captains club/reserve seat for the first time in many a year.. |
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| Author: | Bluey44 [ Wed May 28, 2014 1:48 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: The Swann / Sticks / Ratten / Judd era |
The "Early Doors" era |
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| Author: | Synbad [ Wed May 28, 2014 1:49 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: The Swann / Sticks / Ratten / Judd era |
wasted opportunity was a terrific chance to rebuild the club from top to bottom.. change the culture and develop something which had sustainability instead we built a sandcastle for the good clubs to come and kick over.... the last twenty years will be judged by history as the decline of what used to be considered Australias greatest sporting club... 7 stone weaklings all over the club.... |
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| Author: | dane [ Wed May 28, 2014 1:49 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: The Swann / Sticks / Ratten / Judd era |
I blame Judd. |
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| Author: | Heavs [ Wed May 28, 2014 2:22 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: The Swann / Sticks / Ratten / Judd era |
Idiot Dane. Blaming Judd is so 2011. Now I'm on the Murphy BlameTrain |
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| Author: | Big Kahuna Boot [ Wed May 28, 2014 2:38 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: The Swann / Sticks / Ratten / Judd era |
Heavs wrote: Idiot Dane. Blaming Judd is so 2011. Now I'm on the Murphy BlameTrain ..not the Blaine train..?.. |
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| Author: | kingkerna [ Wed May 28, 2014 3:01 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: The Swann / Sticks / Ratten / Judd era |
an improvement on the previous 7 years |
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| Author: | Blue Vain [ Wed May 28, 2014 4:02 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: The Swann / Sticks / Ratten / Judd era |
I think Judd is a champion who would have been better appreciated elsewhere. |
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| Author: | pew1 [ Wed May 28, 2014 4:04 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: The Swann / Sticks / Ratten / Judd era |
My question to the above gentlemen is why did it take so long to sack wayne hughes. |
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| Author: | camel [ Wed May 28, 2014 4:18 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: The Swann / Sticks / Ratten / Judd era |
I think the club is better off now than it was before these guys assumed their roles. However, I wholeheartedly agree that it has been a wasted opportunity. While some KPIs might be up, we're still struggling in many aspects internally and when compared with leading clubs, which is something we're not. |
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| Author: | CK95 [ Wed May 28, 2014 6:05 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: The Swann / Sticks / Ratten / Judd era |
Should have at least made a prelim in that period. |
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| Author: | Synbad [ Wed May 28, 2014 6:09 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: The Swann / Sticks / Ratten / Judd era |
should have been in a better state today |
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| Author: | CK95 [ Wed May 28, 2014 6:11 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: The Swann / Sticks / Ratten / Judd era |
Tassie? |
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| Author: | camel [ Wed May 28, 2014 6:35 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: The Swann / Sticks / Ratten / Judd era |
CK95 wrote: Should have at least made a prelim in that period. I can rationalise disappointing performances on field more easily than I can by the board/admin. Let's not forget, it's only since Coutts left that we discovered telecommunications does actually exist post the Y2K bug. Players or admin, of the two groups we have right now which is more likely to have a crack at being the best in the AFL? Scary though, huh! 
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| Author: | gerry atric [ Wed May 28, 2014 6:41 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: The Swann / Sticks / Ratten / Judd era |
Synbad wrote: wasted opportunity was a terrific chance to rebuild the club from top to bottom.. change the culture and develop something which had sustainability instead we built a sandcastle for the good clubs to come and kick over.... the last twenty years will be judged by history as the decline of what used to be considered Australias greatest sporting club... Spot on, Sticks gave us some stability and got Dick Pratt onboard, but lacked the smarts and foresight needed as pres. Swann helped with off field financial stability but maybe Mickstar is right and he got too involved with footy matters. Ratts was a great player and might be a reasonable assistant but appointing him without looking seriously at anyone else or having a senior experienced man in the background was a bad, costly error and we have failed badly in drafting and development. We will never have such a good go at the draft and outside of gimme number one picks we wasted way too many picks in the ND. Little to show for those picks from late first round on and we just haven't beaten the draft with any picks. No second/ third round Hanneberry's, Parkers, etc. Judd has been fantastic and made Ratts a better performed coach than perhaps he actually was. Only downsides to Juddy was losing JK and us making decisions on the future that didn't account for just how much Judd carried us, it made us unrealistic about the rest of the list. |
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| Author: | Braithy [ Wed May 28, 2014 6:51 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: The Swann / Sticks / Ratten / Judd era |
One word: Failure. |
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| Author: | Braithy [ Wed May 28, 2014 6:53 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: The Swann / Sticks / Ratten / Judd era |
Multiple high draft picks which should have put us ahead of just about everyone, along with Judd and the best FF in the game Fev. We should have had a dominant period of at elast being in prelims and GF's and maybe even win them. We should be in good shape today on par with Geelong and Hawthorn and ahead of the pies. Our recruiting and development is bottom 4. |
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| Author: | bluedog [ Wed May 28, 2014 7:12 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: The Swann / Sticks / Ratten / Judd era |
Blue Vain wrote: I think Judd is a champion who would have been better appreciated elsewhere. Stopping Collingwood getting him had to be a good thing, yeah? |
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| Author: | Synbad [ Wed May 28, 2014 8:08 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: The Swann / Sticks / Ratten / Judd era |
Braithy wrote: Multiple high draft picks which should have put us ahead of just about everyone, along with Judd and the best FF in the game Fev. We should have had a dominant period of at elast being in prelims and GF's and maybe even win them. We should be in good shape today on par with Geelong and Hawthorn and ahead of the pies. Our recruiting and development is bottom 4. list management membership harvesting public profile etc etc etc |
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