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PostPosted: Sun Aug 01, 2021 2:11 pm 
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If my email to the Club means anything :smile: , Barkly Smokehouse, Amore Cheese, and McDonald’s won’t be corporate sponsors going forward.

Now there’s a way to improve culture. :thumbsup:


Is Barkly a Tobacco pedler? Amore a Brothel? McDonalds a seed patenter?

Tell me more. Curious.

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PostPosted: Sun Aug 01, 2021 5:12 pm 
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bondiblue wrote:
bluedog wrote:
If my email to the Club means anything :smile: , Barkly Smokehouse, Amore Cheese, and McDonald’s won’t be corporate sponsors going forward.

Now there’s a way to improve culture. :thumbsup:


Is Barkly a Tobacco pedler? Amore a Brothel? McDonalds a seed patenter?

Tell me more. Curious.





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PostPosted: Mon Aug 02, 2021 10:43 am 
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Well obviously John Hollingsworth has tried to get in the board but can’t because of the constitution and the biased selection process
Look Sayers may be a better President maybe not but he has been part of a board that has overseen the crap going on below them for nine years.
If he felt so strongly about stuff whey wouldn’t he not associate himself from the Pratt’s and Mathiesons and get his own ticket together and challenge these old cronies

I’m not a big fan of Twitter but judging by the tweets Hollingsworth has written he certainly has a similar view of the board as yours truly


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PostPosted: Mon Aug 02, 2021 12:19 pm 
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Well obviously John Hollingsworth has tried to get in the board but can’t because of the constitution and the biased selection process
Look Sayers may be a better President maybe not but he has been part of a board that has overseen the crap going on below them for nine years.
If he felt so strongly about stuff whey wouldn’t he not associate himself from the Pratt’s and Mathiesons and get his own ticket together and challenge these old cronies

I’m not a big fan of Twitter but judging by the tweets Hollingsworth has written he certainly has a similar view of the board as yours truly


Sayers will only be President for 4 years from what I understand. He's not doing it for money, or because he wants to hang out with the Board, other than on match day.

I believe he wants to serve with purpose. He's seen plenty of things he likes and dislikes in the running of the club. I feel the right vibe on this one, after the great work MLG has done to pave the way, clear of off field onstacles.

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PostPosted: Mon Aug 02, 2021 12:25 pm 
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The Carlton board is facing another challenge from an investment fund manager who has called for a review of the club board’s performance and urged Carlton members to assist him in “taking back control of our club”.

Former Softball Australia chairman John Hollingsworth, who stood unsuccessfully for election to the Carlton board twice, has confirmed that he will challenge the Blues’ board at the end of this season, while calling on incoming president Luke Sayers to do a “full overhaul” of the board that he says has failed for two decades.



https://www.theage.com.au/sport/afl/blues-assistant-barker-resigns-will-depart-during-bye-20210608-p57z14.html

Hollingsworth has got his Review, albeit the focus is on the Football Dept, and not the Board as a whole.

He's also got Sayers taking control but might be too late to overhaul the Board. Hopefully he musters enough support to see the EGM vote fail till proper discussion takes place when sayers takes control. Seems the right way to go about change for me.

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PostPosted: Mon Aug 02, 2021 7:33 pm 
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I was wondering if any on here are going to back that Vince bloke who is petitioning for Board spill.

Surely Keogh has signed up

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PostPosted: Tue Aug 03, 2021 10:39 am 
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Sayers has turned the club into a circus and he hasn't even taken control yet.

Interesting times ahead.


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PostPosted: Tue Aug 03, 2021 11:01 am 
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Walsh wrote:
Sayers has turned the club into a circus and he hasn't even taken control yet.

Interesting times ahead.



Really???
How has he and what are some examples of this circus you talk about????
I'm interested to know.


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PostPosted: Tue Aug 03, 2021 11:14 am 
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deano35 wrote:
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Sayers has turned the club into a circus and he hasn't even taken control yet.

Interesting times ahead.



Really???
How has he and what are some examples of this circus you talk about????
I'm interested to know.


You can't see it - read the media - it's a damn circus with clowns everywhere.


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PostPosted: Tue Aug 03, 2021 11:30 am 
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as opposed to the Hawthorn circus, the Gold Coast circus, the Collingwood circus, The Eagles circus...replacing the North circus, the GWS circus, the Essendon* circus...wait maybe the common denominator here is the media?

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This type of slight is alien in the more cultured part of the world - Walsh. Its up there with mad dogs, Englishmen and the midday sun!


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PostPosted: Tue Aug 03, 2021 11:32 am 
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as opposed to the Hawthorn circus, the Gold Coast circus, the Collingwood circus, The Eagles circus...replacing the North circus, the GWS circus, the Essendon** circus...wait maybe the common denominator here is the media?


Well cant blame the media when Sayers decided in his wisdom to make the review open for public execution.


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PostPosted: Tue Aug 03, 2021 11:36 am 
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Just because you don’t agree with the footy dept review and you are afraid that the outworking of the review may be to move the present coach on doesn’t mean it is a circus

The board have done well in terms of finances and substantial increase in membership over the last few years.

Obviously we need to also see a lift of infield performance and the board create the best environment for that in terms of personnel and facilities

The one area which they haven’t done well is board renewal and succession planning and the incumbents have too much control over that process.Regrettably they don’t seek renewal from skilled and experience out of their own orbit


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PostPosted: Tue Aug 03, 2021 12:06 pm 
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Walsh wrote:
deano35 wrote:
Walsh wrote:
Sayers has turned the club into a circus and he hasn't even taken control yet.

Interesting times ahead.



Really???
How has he and what are some examples of this circus you talk about????
I'm interested to know.


You can't see it - read the media - it's a damn circus with clowns everywhere.


No , YOU are making the statement that the clubs a circus so I'm assuming YOU have knowledge of this.
I'm not Interested in what the media says I'm asking YOU to please give me some examples of this circus YOU tell us about.


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PostPosted: Tue Aug 03, 2021 12:17 pm 
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A review was needed. Consistently long injury list, team playing without a recognisable defensive system, talk of administration overstepping the mark with football department decisions.
We have to recognise the problems before they can be addressed.
There's only 1 person I've heard say it was unnecessary. That's you Walsh. AFAIC, it's a great initiative and hopefully it provides positive outcomes.

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PostPosted: Tue Aug 03, 2021 12:35 pm 
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I really don't have any problem with the review itself or the fact that they've made it public that they're having one.

It's only a circus if they go public with its findings or if the findings are unintentionally leaked. All we've seen so far is heresay & makey uppey from Jon Anderson, & that doesn't count.

We're an underperforming organisation in our most crucial area - winning games of football. We're looking into why that is the case. Nothing wrong with that.

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PostPosted: Tue Aug 03, 2021 12:53 pm 
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A review is always needed once every 2-3 years. I think this is the point so when things are not going Sayers way he will spit the dummy and cry to the media? Because thats what it looks like to me.


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PostPosted: Tue Aug 03, 2021 3:12 pm 
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A review is always needed once every 2-3 years. I think this is the point so when things are not going Sayers way he will spit the dummy and cry to the media? Because thats what it looks like to me.


I'm still waiting for you to post some examples of this CIRCUS that YOU tell us about ?????


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PostPosted: Tue Aug 03, 2021 4:25 pm 
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Walsh wrote:
A review is always needed once every 2-3 years. I think this is the point so when things are not going Sayers way he will spit the dummy and cry to the media? Because thats what it looks like to me.


I'm still waiting for you to post some examples of this CIRCUS that YOU tell us about ?????

Don't hold your breath. Sayers ran over Walsh's cat, and Teague was the one who stroked his hair while he cried himself to sleep


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PostPosted: Tue Aug 03, 2021 4:34 pm 
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And for the sake of completeness Dow was with Sayers when he ran over the cat


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PostPosted: Tue Aug 03, 2021 4:41 pm 
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deano35 wrote:
Walsh wrote:
A review is always needed once every 2-3 years. I think this is the point so when things are not going Sayers way he will spit the dummy and cry to the media? Because thats what it looks like to me.


I'm still waiting for you to post some examples of this CIRCUS that YOU tell us about ?????


Ringling Bros. and Barnum & Bailey Circus comes to mind.
Aka "The Greatest Show on Earth" :smoking:

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