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 Post subject: Re: Alastair Clarkson
PostPosted: Sun Jul 01, 2012 2:07 am 
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Without being disrespectful to a former servant of the club in Aitken, ridiculous, yet predictable logic to dismiss it on the basis of an incident from eons ago.

Also flys in the face of the Pratt mantra of getting the best around, not just the best available that people love to trot out.

Fun part is that if this were applied today at Carlton, in my view, we'd not only have Clarkson in the coaches box, but Neil Balme and Darren Milburn also.

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 Post subject: Re: Alastair Clarkson
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Why not...Aaron Hamill already seems to be the conditioning coach...

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 Post subject: Re: Alastair Clarkson
PostPosted: Sun Jul 01, 2012 7:30 am 
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I've been a paid up member of this club since 1971. If Clarkson, that sniping little gutter rat bastard ever arrived at Carlton, then you could count me out.

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 Post subject: Re: Alastair Clarkson
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So is the question IF or WHEN?

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 Post subject: Re: Alastair Clarkson
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jezzarules wrote:
So is the question IF or WHEN?


I don’t know Jezzarules.

You tell me.

If I were a betting man, I’d say he is not coming to us.


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 Post subject: Re: Alastair Clarkson
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Whatever happens, for now let's just enjoy the shitshow at Hawthorn.

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 Post subject: Re: Alastair Clarkson
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I’ve said it before, and I’ll say it again- I wouldn’t let that little germ in the front door, never mind the coaches box.

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 Post subject: Re: Alastair Clarkson
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Perhaps new blood in the assistant ranks would be more beneficial to the team. But rumors continue he'll be at blues next year. Wait and see I guess

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 Post subject: Re: Alastair Clarkson
PostPosted: Thu Jul 22, 2021 9:59 am 
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Call me old fashion, but I'm just a baby boomer with a good memory for distasteful acts against Carlton.

I'm not under the illusion that Clarkson will put aside his hatred for Carlton. Yes hatred.

Clarkson's misdemeanors against Carlton are not just the Ian Aitken Coward Punch incident. Opposition fans, who can't remember the Aitken King Hit, say the biggest dog act they witnessed in footy was Clarkson assigning 4 defenders, late in the last quarter, on Fevola to stop him kicking one more goal and reach 100. Why? His directive had nothing to do with winning a game, which we were losing at the time and lost by 10 goals. His actions were fueled by a hatred for Carlton.

Why would he come over for $1-2 Million to coach Carlton? Premiership Glory? Its 2 things. Carlton stupidly give him his superannuation and he takes laughing all the way to the bank, along with burying his vile acts against Carlton in one swoop.

The above are just 2 acts that top the cake. He's done his all to beat up Carlton and Carlton people every time he played or coached against them as pay back for the abuse he copped from Carlton supporters and players for his dog acts.

I want his legacy to be known throughout Carlton's history and for generations to come that the Clarkson acts against Carlton are not reflective of a good human being, but of an hot headed, a violent Coward puncher and a vandal of one of the great rare feats of football, the 100 goal milestone.

No thanks. Clarkson is not The Messiah, and the Hawks Board know it. They will not renew his contract when the real on field Leader of their Golden era is available to coach the Hawks. Lets not forget, without onfield leaders/coaches Mitchell, Hodge, Lewis and Roughead, Clarkson is not a guru and nothing less than an opportunist, who was lucky to be offically names as Coach of Hawks during their Golden era. That makes him a parasite in my books.

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 Post subject: Re: Alastair Clarkson
PostPosted: Thu Jul 22, 2021 10:01 am 
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Nicko Carstairs wrote:
Perhaps new blood in the assistant ranks would be more beneficial to the team. But rumors continue he'll be at blues next year. Wait and see I guess


To think we can't win our 17th Flag without Clarkson is ridiculous for me and for the other 17 other teams without him.

Add value to the existing and the list will look after the rest.

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 Post subject: Re: Alastair Clarkson
PostPosted: Thu Jul 22, 2021 12:15 pm 
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bondiblue wrote:
Nicko Carstairs wrote:
Perhaps new blood in the assistant ranks would be more beneficial to the team. But rumors continue he'll be at blues next year. Wait and see I guess


To think we can't win our 17th Flag without Clarkson is ridiculous for me and for the other 17 other teams without him.

Add value to the existing and the list will look after the rest.


I agree. But we all know which ex(?) board members are driving this change. Never ceases to amaze me how as a club we keep repeating the same mistakes. Hopefully I am wrong.


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 Post subject: Re: Alastair Clarkson
PostPosted: Thu Jul 22, 2021 12:40 pm 
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bondiblue wrote:
Call me old fashion, but I'm just a baby boomer with a good memory for distasteful acts against Carlton.

I'm not under the illusion that Clarkson will put aside his hatred for Carlton. Yes hatred.

Clarkson's misdemeanors against Carlton are not just the Ian Aitken Coward Punch incident. Opposition fans, who can't remember the Aitken King Hit, say the biggest dog act they witnessed in footy was Clarkson assigning 4 defenders, late in the last quarter, on Fevola to stop him kicking one more goal and reach 100. Why? His directive had nothing to do with winning a game, which we were losing at the time and lost by 10 goals. His actions were fueled by a hatred for Carlton.

Why would he come over for $1-2 Million to coach Carlton? Premiership Glory? Its 2 things. Carlton stupidly give him his superannuation and he takes laughing all the way to the bank, along with burying his vile acts against Carlton in one swoop.

The above are just 2 acts that top the cake. He's done his all to beat up Carlton and Carlton people every time he played or coached against them as pay back for the abuse he copped from Carlton supporters and players for his dog acts.

I want his legacy to be known throughout Carlton's history and for generations to come that the Clarkson acts against Carlton are not reflective of a good human being, but of an hot headed, a violent Coward puncher and a vandal of one of the great rare feats of football, the 100 goal milestone.

No thanks. Clarkson is not The Messiah, and the Hawks Board know it. They will not renew his contract when the real on field Leader of their Golden era is available to coach the Hawks. Lets not forget, without onfield leaders/coaches Mitchell, Hodge, Lewis and Roughead, Clarkson is not a guru and nothing less than an opportunist, who was lucky to be offically names as Coach of Hawks during their Golden era. That makes him a parasite in my books.


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 Post subject: Re: Alastair Clarkson
PostPosted: Thu Jul 22, 2021 1:06 pm 
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Clarkson is over the hill... third year in draft and sitting second last. They won't play finals for another five years.

There is more downside to them and Mitchell is going to find it tough thanks to Clarkson.


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 Post subject: Re: Alastair Clarkson
PostPosted: Thu Jul 22, 2021 4:54 pm 
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I think that if we win 3 or more of the last 5, the question is moot as it will be v difficult to move on Teague after winning 7 or 8 of our last ten games.
Having said that, I just hope that if that happens, we are not making the same emotional decision as we did when we first appointed Teague.
Having said that, the emotional decisions run in both directions - i.e. bringing in Malthouse to replace Ratten.
I just hope that the review is thorough and valid, and whatever we decide to do after that turns into flags!

(I kind of feel like Ross Lyon would be a better fit for us than Clarkson if we did decide to replace Teague... Even though previously I have not been a huge fan of his game style, I think his discipline and structures would get the most out of our talented list. And, I reckon his game style might be slightly different with our list Vs StKilda's or Freo's...).


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 Post subject: Alastair Clarkson
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Make Clarkson an assistant.

Or something.

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 Post subject: Re: Alastair Clarkson
PostPosted: Thu Jul 22, 2021 8:06 pm 
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bondiblue wrote:
Call me old fashion, but I'm just a baby boomer with a good memory for distasteful acts against Carlton.

I'm not under the illusion that Clarkson will put aside his hatred for Carlton. Yes hatred.

Clarkson's misdemeanors against Carlton are not just the Ian Aitken Coward Punch incident. Opposition fans, who can't remember the Aitken King Hit, say the biggest dog act they witnessed in footy was Clarkson assigning 4 defenders, late in the last quarter, on Fevola to stop him kicking one more goal and reach 100. Why? His directive had nothing to do with winning a game, which we were losing at the time and lost by 10 goals. His actions were fueled by a hatred for Carlton.

Why would he come over for $1-2 Million to coach Carlton? Premiership Glory? Its 2 things. Carlton stupidly give him his superannuation and he takes laughing all the way to the bank, along with burying his vile acts against Carlton in one swoop.

The above are just 2 acts that top the cake. He's done his all to beat up Carlton and Carlton people every time he played or coached against them as pay back for the abuse he copped from Carlton supporters and players for his dog acts.

I want his legacy to be known throughout Carlton's history and for generations to come that the Clarkson acts against Carlton are not reflective of a good human being, but of an hot headed, a violent Coward puncher and a vandal of one of the great rare feats of football, the 100 goal milestone.

No thanks. Clarkson is not The Messiah, and the Hawks Board know it. They will not renew his contract when the real on field Leader of their Golden era is available to coach the Hawks. Lets not forget, without onfield leaders/coaches Mitchell, Hodge, Lewis and Roughead, Clarkson is not a guru and nothing less than an opportunist, who was lucky to be offically names as Coach of Hawks during their Golden era. That makes him a parasite in my books.


:clap: :clap: :clap:

Totally agree, he is a spiteful nasty piece of work who had the good fortune to coach a team that coached itself.

We have already been burnt by two previous so called Super Coaches in Pagan & Malthouse. We don't want a 3rd Coaching Messiah.

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 Post subject: Re: Alastair Clarkson
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I almost want us to sign him now just to see how it plays out... :lol:

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 Post subject: Re: Alastair Clarkson
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GWS wrote:
I almost want us to sign him now just to see how it plays out... :lol:


Then you must enjoy when I go on a tangent.

I will obviously accept the clubs decision but come voting time we will vote the incoming president out if we go through the same two year learning process.

By that time - will be rabid...and so will you.


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 Post subject: Re: Alastair Clarkson
PostPosted: Thu Jul 22, 2021 9:17 pm 
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I get the reasons why he is disliked but you can’t criticise the blokes coaching record which is one of the best ever

Coaching a very ordinary team at the moment that stays in matches because of strategy and than every one on the list knows their role


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 Post subject: Re: Alastair Clarkson
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frank dardew wrote:
I get the reasons why he is disliked but you can’t criticise the blokes coaching record which is one of the best ever

Coaching a very ordinary team at the moment that stays in matches because of strategy and than every one on the list knows their role


The ordinary team is his own doing - he had no succession plan.


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