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PostPosted: Tue Sep 28, 2021 8:40 pm 
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I'm the same. There are people here that are really @#$%&! clever in game analysis. BV is the same. But most clubs only employ former players as assistants. I just don't understand why nobody has taken a flier on someone outside the system.



BV hasn't got a clue. Ask Walshy.
Cazzeman is a recruiters petticoat. Ask Walshy.
Franky D and his big words are just big words. Ask Walshy

Agro is just punch drunk. Ask Mosche :wink:

As for Heavs, he asks qusetions with questions. Ask Heavs :thumbsup:

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PostPosted: Tue Sep 28, 2021 9:12 pm 
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Blue Vain wrote:
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What does an Assistant Coach do? Legit question, I just don't know what their job entails. What makes a good assistant coach?


Just my opinion based on a bit of knowledge, clubs mostly work with individual lines (backs, mids, forwards). They'll do game reviews and opponent assessment for upcoming games. Code gameday footage and hold one on one meetings to review with the players.
Some clubs do it differently and run offensive/defensive coaches where they manage the offensive and defensive movement with all players (not just nominated lines).
Some manage stoppages/set plays/kickouts etc.
The soft cap affects the numbers but ideally, I like line coaches, a set play coach and an innovation coach. Someone with lots of alternative ideas. The coaching group can sort through the 90% of overly radical ideas that wouldn't work and can channel the 10% that are worth consideration. You need an eccentric character with a good idea about the sport but an imagination is gold. I love this idea. Innovation and out of the box thinking should be embraced but it rarely is.
AFL coaches are often very conservative in their approach and their idea of innovation extends to language, instead of embracing imagination. That's what made Clarko such a good coach. He embraced alternative thinking but the game bought him back to the pack eventually.


Thanks for the response. I guess my next question then is why does an assistant coach always need to be an ex-player (not aimed at you specifically -suppirters in general)?
And the preference a 'good' or name ex-player? Surely getting in stats nerds who can spot the trends should be priority yeah? Or is that just too scary?

All these folk love to quote moneyball but I bet none of them have read it.

The club employs about half a dozen people in stats & strategy roles. None of them are coaches.

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PostPosted: Tue Sep 28, 2021 10:10 pm 
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IMHO, the industry looks after its own as well as any. Prior to due credit going to level 3 and 4 accreditation, any roles in junior development went to any ex AFL coach who was interested. Or even to relatives of AFL coaches/administrators. Or they were last least fast tracked. Often to the detriment of the participants within the programs they were coaching/managing. Thankfully over the past few years, that has improved marginally.

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PostPosted: Wed Sep 29, 2021 8:48 am 
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bondiblue wrote:
Heavs wrote:
I'm the same. There are people here that are really @#$%&! clever in game analysis. BV is the same. But most clubs only employ former players as assistants. I just don't understand why nobody has taken a flier on someone outside the system.



BV hasn't got a clue. Ask Walshy.
Cazzeman is a recruiters petticoat. Ask Walshy.
Franky D and his big words are just big words. Ask Walshy

Agro is just punch drunk. Ask Mosche :wink:

As for Heavs, he asks qusetions with questions. Ask Heavs :thumbsup:



:grin: You must be one of the clever ones BB :thumbsup:


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PostPosted: Wed Sep 29, 2021 9:10 am 
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Cazzeman is a recruiters petticoat. Ask Walshy.


:eek: :eek: Hey my cross dressing during Covid Lockdowns are none of Walshy's business..................but it he wants to PM me, I have a lovely little strapless number he might like. :smoking: :smoking:

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PostPosted: Wed Sep 29, 2021 10:35 am 
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And anyway, it's strictly a comfort thing.

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PostPosted: Wed Sep 29, 2021 12:54 pm 
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Alex Rance off to Essendon* in a coaching role.
Hope we have not missed out and we get the dreggs.


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PostPosted: Wed Sep 29, 2021 1:03 pm 
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Pretty impressive coaching resume Rance. Guttered we missed out.

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PostPosted: Wed Sep 29, 2021 1:06 pm 
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Heavs wrote:
Pretty impressive coaching resume Rance. Guttered we missed out.

Yeah druggies must be rapted.


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PostPosted: Wed Sep 29, 2021 1:19 pm 
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Any chance we can get Adam Kingsley as an Assistant. Reports are he was very impressive in interviews


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PostPosted: Wed Sep 29, 2021 1:45 pm 
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Any chance we can get Adam Kingsley as an Assistant. Reports are he was very impressive in interviews

Nice thought but really can't see him being interested to come and help out the guy who beat him for the job.

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PostPosted: Wed Sep 29, 2021 3:54 pm 
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The Normal One wrote:
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A bit left field but it's a shame we couldn't consider Daisy Pearce.
She sees the game really well, communicates it in simple terms and she appears to be a top shelf person.
Unfortunately AFLW lists are settled otherwise it would be good to get her across to play for our AFLW team and then move into assisting with the mens team.


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PostPosted: Wed Sep 29, 2021 9:38 pm 
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kezza wrote:
Alex Rance off to Essendon** in a coaching role.
Hope we have not missed out and we get the dreggs.

Must be getting too many repeats on grinder

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PostPosted: Thu Sep 30, 2021 12:16 pm 
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Matt Kennedy yesterday:

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“I found I was trying to improve in so many areas that I was forgetting to play to my strengths which is my physicality and tackle pressure,” he said.


This is where you need good assistants. People who can take a step back and actually say, "No. You're good at this. Don't worry about being that."


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PostPosted: Thu Sep 30, 2021 1:11 pm 
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It's the same criticism I had of Cripps as well.
Hopefully Voss defines and manages their roles better.

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PostPosted: Thu Sep 30, 2021 1:57 pm 
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I wonder if Voss played any role in Oli Wines' big improvement over the past couple of years.
I feel like this is the roadmap for Crippa.
Basically, three things:
1) Get back to his strengths (being strong and getting the ball)
2) Improve his running speed/endurance
3) More of the team stuff (like giving the ball off rather than breaking the tackle...)


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PostPosted: Thu Sep 30, 2021 4:06 pm 
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Aaron Hamill appointed as backline coach

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PostPosted: Thu Sep 30, 2021 4:06 pm 
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Hamill has been added to the coaching team
https://www.carltonfc.com.au/news/1022584/hamill-takes-charge-of-blues-backline


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PostPosted: Thu Sep 30, 2021 4:11 pm 
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That will stir some discussion :lol:

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PostPosted: Thu Sep 30, 2021 4:15 pm 
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Not from me :lol:
I’m on the Hendo bandwagon too


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