Doesn't matter where you draw the line.
Since the first half last year we've been woeful.
Voss is a one tricky pony. The forward handball at centre bounces was his big win then we were exposed when teams figured us out.

Voss says our forward efficiency needs fixing.
Well what about our ball movement from HB. The players looked clueless yesterday. Incapable of breaking St.Ks all round defence.
And how about our clearance work?
I'd say we are not performing well virtually everywhere.

We have a lot of 80s/90s footballers in or 23. We lack zippy players and
endurance power running players. We need that fixed. Voss is trying to have us play
to our strengths. Play it safe as we muscle and crab it down the field. I understand the need
to do this as we would get slaughtered in an open running game of football.
We will still win a few games but better teams will beat us.
Hopefully with players coming back we can get a better balanced team with enough run
to cover the ground defensively and provide at least the occasional headache on the spread.
We need to be as awful to play against as a Ross Lyon coached team.

Yeah i don’t know….

Voss didn’t sound like the coach i wanted to hear
last night…!

he should be FAR more upset…!


kindest regards tommi

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Play Binns, Play Dow, Play Carroll, Play Kemp, @#$%&! play em all, seriously we need to change things up not slow things down.

Binns for Fisher -
Carroll for Honey
Dow for Kennedy - Kennedy then plays HFF
Kemp for Motlop.

I doubt Voss will make even 1 of those changes....

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This type of slight is alien in the more cultured part of the world - Walsh. Its up there with mad dogs, Englishmen and the midday sun!

We’ve got issues popping up across the board. The coach is culpable in some of it but not all of it.

(1) Game plan / tactics. We’ve gone from a high scoring team in early 2022 to a team that struggles To score, despite having close to the best key forward duo in the competition. Yesterday we were mauled in the coaches box. +86 disposals but -4 inside 50s. We’ve been a bottom 6-8 side on win-loss since round 10 last year. This is where Voss and his assistants are culpable.

(2) An injury prone playing list. We have a group of at least 5 players who almost never get on the park - Marchbank, Cuningham, Philp, Williams, Martin. With a list of barely over 40 (including project players and raw 18 year olds), this puts undue pressure on the rest of the list to stay fit and perform. It means we’re always playing players 30-35 on the list which leads to my next point.

(3) The top end talent on the list masks questionable depth. Due to the above point, this depth has to play. Fisher, Honey, LOB, JSOS are examples of players who should be fighting tooth and nail to play but are being handed games due to no selection pressure. How many of these guys play in top 4 teams over the past few years?

(4) Average game day execution. It’s astounding after all these years how average some of our skills are, especially kicking inside 50 and goal kicking. It was on show yesterday and was a big part of the reason we lost. Continually kicking to St Kilda defenders. Harry is a Coleman medalist from 18 months ago but his inability to kick goals from set shots saps the team of confidence. JSOS missing from 15 metres out in a game that was goal for goal until that point.

The next 5-6 weeks will be telling against good opposition. Regardless of what happens with the coach (too early to make that call in my view), it’s clear we need to do a bit of work in the list management space - move on from perennially injured players and try retool the list with young talent on the fly.

couldn't coach his way out of a wet paper bag.

Luke (from his office): MABEL!

Mabel (half asleep, jumps at hearing her name and knocks over her half empty coffee cup. Frantically grabs some tissues and starts mopping up the mess): Yes?

Luke: Has that fax come in from the Board yet?

Mabel: Grabs at some soggy paperwork and finds the offending fax. Dabs at the paper with sodden tissues and squints at the text.
“Yes. It’s right here. It says, umm … “Get, …get … Noss? No, wait … Voss. Yeah, it says get Voss””.

Luke: Are you sure?

Mabel (wringing hands and looking befuddled): Yes, quite sure.

Luke: Ok, can you get Michael Voss on the blower. I’ll let him know the good news.


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Agree with those ins but the 4 I'd be dropping are Ed, Honey, Fisher, LOB

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Seemed pretty chilled about it all didn't he.

Good post

Retooling of the list should have occurred 2 years ago

It boggles the mind that both O’Brien and Fisher have a contract beyond this year. It will unfortunately hold us back in the short term.

Completely agree with the context - change it up. Give others a go

Add run. Don't take run out and replace it. If we could bring in some run and open up play a bit more on the attack and be able to defend better at the same time a lot of players currently in the side will
play better.

We need endurance runners willing to work added to the mix.

It's not just about players chosen. It's as much if not more about style of play. Watching the players kicking sideways racking up stats (that make them look good stats wise but paper over their effect on the game) then turning it over because they've allowed the opposition to get numbers back was reminiscent of the Pagan and Malthouse eras when T-Bird bless his soul became adroit at kicking anywhere bar forwards. Our style of play has been cut out of the history books. Expect Voss to tell the players to pull the trigger more this weekend. At least let's hope he does. The sight of Harry marking at 55 and them taking half an hour to decide what to do when he already had favourable 1 on 1s ahead was enough to make me vomit. And it wasn't just Harry. It was evidently our game plan. Is it the players are dumb or the coach is out of his mind?

Everytime you pick a side you send a message.
Selection integrity has been non existent at this club for 20 years.
Nobody is saying Dow is suddenly Judd and Ablett rolled into 1 but you need to reward effort and performance at a lower level. Hewett , Fisher , Honey, Ed, and Obrien aren't performing so they don't deserve a spot in the team.
So Voss says we can't play all these mids and there's not enough room for Dow yet we create a position for Kennedy at HB???
If true to your word Voss then if Kennedy our 2nd best inside mid can't get a game in the midfield then he shouldn't be playing at HB and should be playing reserves.
Dow , Carroll Kemp and Binns deserve the same opportunity that others seem to be getting with no pressure on their spot and we wonder why our players are so poor and look like they couldn't give a stuff.
Injuries have absolutely nothing to do with how we are playing , our system is poor.
Remember the Voss mantra is 'Next man up'
How is 1kilda, Essenscum and Collingfilth playing with way more injuries to key players than we have. It's all about System, it doesn't matter who's out it's about the way you play and the 'next man up' playing his role.
Our team is stacked with Coleman medallist, All Australians, Brownlow medallist that other teams would kill for yet we get embarrassed by no names from Adelaide and 1kilda.
The heat is well and truly on Voss and his coaching group to change coz what we currently are doing has been found out since rd 13 last season.
I read an article that quoted Brad Lloyd saying our method and system is fine , well if they truly believe this then we are cooked as a club and this playing group will be setup for more failures than winnings.

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I'm an accountant, but even I'm struggling to add all these numbers up.

But I think it = Dow in, or we will be saying "please explain" to Mr Voss.

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