Bluetears wrote:
bondiblue wrote:
I'm glad you didn't add to the Doc bagging.
Williamson ahead of Doc? FMD. I know Doc has dropped a few and cost us goals, but look at the figures comparing Willo and Doc. They shouldn't even be compared. There's good reason Willo was dropped twice for costing fot than a goal or two herew and ther. Willo was costing 3-4 goals in a few of the close games we lost.
Lets get real. Williamson survived vs Freo.
I kept a good eye on Tom, and hoped he'd play within himself and wouldn't try the outlandish stuff that led to his demise. I gave him a pass.
Yes he did have average moments as Bluetears suggests, and he is limited to one peg. As for giving him games for experience, I think that's what we did in the first half of the year, and clearly he'd gone backwards this year, not forwards. His game in the VFL didn't warrant selection, so lets not give him credits he hasn't earned.
I didn't see any good ball delivery, with direction intent on hitting a target. I saw him bombing it into the forwardline, or the wing, because he stretched his run a bit far again at times. Willo is depth, and I'm glad he survived.
SPS is elusive and does some amazing things. Listen to the Weitering interview post game what he says about SPS' game. The supposed missed tackle in the last wasn't a missed tackle. The opponent with the ball ran around 2 players and SPS was the 2nd, and too wide for SPS to get a hold. I'm neither here or there with SPS, and accept he might be traded, but I have no doubt SPS showed more AFL standard play than Willo did vs Freo.
Having said that, it was good to see Willo play a role fitting of a reserve HBF, but he lacks class. He is a hard worker. He's depth for now imo.
Dont get me wrong. I think docherty has afl worthy talent, but just not on the half back line. He kicks to the opposition too much from hb and the opposition gets possesion in the centre and kick it back over his head usually resulting in a score (when we had complete control of the ball). I really think he/carlton would get more positive results further up the ground, delivering to the forward line where any slightly errant kicks dont hurt the team so much. Hes got the skill to win possession which would be great around the wings and half forward area.
I dont really rate sps above willo as far as benefit to the team during a match. soley based on his effort. Sps is so lazy sometimes, the amount of times he is close enough to get involved and just stands there waiting to get fed or something is unacceptable, and nulls the good things he does.
Edit* i did actually notice his overdone passes after running aa bit far before kicking. I didnt think the kicks where bombed in so much. The ones i recal where reasonably low trajectory for a 30m kick and the ball got to destination quickly (albeit past the target). If he can improve his timing and accuracy with that type of play. he could be very damaging to opposition.
I reckon in the games he had earlier in the year was in a totally disfunctional team on a halfbackline with no plan or direction. Its a pretty big ask for a kid to play well with that going on around him. He should be getting tutored by the senior players and yet they could hardly set a good example to show him..
Anyway, its down to personal opinion i guess. Regardless of either side of the arguement, only fate and the selectors can decide if he gets more games.
I have no issue with pointing out players that arent getting it done.. if they want to accept the accolades in good times they need to accept they might recieve (fair) criticism for poor performance
The thing I agree with BT is that with experience comes improvement, but everyone has a ceiling.
Docs kicking out of defense before cancer was pretty spot on. Something has happened to him since the cancer treatment over summer IMO. His 1-2 clangers in many games this year, since round 1, have not been the norm. The fact he's being paid $600K and is our captain he should be held to account. The fact Willo is not on that sort of money doesn't excuse his shortcomings. Everyone is accountable for their actions.
Oh yeah, and Willo did bomb a few to the forward line without a target in site, so if his issue is decsison making, he better fix it, because without that, he's never going to use his left peg effectively.
I've always loved the idea of Doc in the midfield group. He is a smart player and knows how to win the ball.
I really am Ok with Williamson trying to win a wing position in the team: he played Ok in that position. I really have no faith in his decision making on the last line. When he's pushed back close to the goals, he becomes a liability because he has no right foot. He got pinned on the last line, tried to get out on his right and the ball landed in the oppositions hand and you know the rest of the story. It happened over and over again. I don't blame that on the senior players. Its a part of his craft he obviously neglected. He got picked in the mid 60's for a reason.
When you look at our injured list, you can see that SPS and Willo are both peripheral. I'm just saying SPS has miles more class than Willo, and hey, if he doesn't chase and tackle when its his turn, then back to the VFL he goes or to Freo. The fear of getting traded can improve the deficiency you point out pretty quick. If not, See yu.
