Well if was Elijah's parents I would be extremely disappointed in Elijah . I would say how can you do this to yourself son ? and like Elijahs Dad I would fully support him and do everything in my power to get him back on the right track . And I would be forever grateful to the Carlton Football Club to to give him an opportunity that in all honesty he didn't deserve .

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Do you think mental illness is a choice?

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Of course not , but drugs are and that's where it all started . The bloke has been his own worst enemy for years . And if he was my son I would have have very stern words . I reckon his Dad would have had plenty of hard conversations with Elijah . But being his own flesh and blood he has unconditional love for him . I take my hat off to the bloke . And Ollie .

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Burn baby...........Byrne?

Chicken and egg.

You do realise that many people with mental illnesses are prone to self medicating with drugs?

Did it start with the drugs or the mental illness?

And you say you think his dad had hard conversations but they didn’t work?

So maybe that strategy is a little flawed?

It’s a complicated space Mick and I don’t think anyone is improving the situation by having strong opinions on what’s actually going on because as far as I can see we are a long way from knowing what the full story is in regards to Elijah or the club and it’s handling of the entire situation.

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You are an igorant idiot or can’t see

You are an ignorant idiot too

An "igorant" idiot?
The defence rests.

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Final thing from me because there is no point conversing with ignorant arrogant people
My partner has worked her whole life in mental health
It’s possible to enlighten those arrogant ones that Elijah may have a undiagnosed mental illness that has developed therefore he hasn’t been medicated
Who knows but you guys are so @#$%&! naive
Not your fault we all live in some cocoon
But your a plain stupid or blinded to think the club didn’t @#$%&! up
So to those posters
Get [REDACTED]

Geez , you make good points there G and I aint arguing' . Complex to say the least . Everyone has pressure in life . Some knuckle down and do the hard yards . Others look for a crutch and take the easy way out . All I'm saying as a parent if you take a kid from the cradle and devote your life to your family and one of them runs off the rails it would be a bitter blow . His parents and Ollie no doubt are devastated .

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Your so out of touch judging by your posts
You live in a bygone time

Thanks mate . Happy to cop idiot but not ignorant or arrogant . Someone asked a question and I answered it .

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Nice tanty there Keogh.
Feel better now do you?
Firstly, I'm not saying the club hasn't [REDACTED] up. I'm saying let's wait for the outcome of the investigation before burning it down.
Secondly, good for your partner. I absolutely admire people who work in emergency services, hospitals etc. But that doesn't mean her or you know what happened Thursday night. You have no idea of what is happening in Elijah's life, or what he experienced Thursday night or what the clubs medical professionals did to assist, or not assist him.

So instead of making incorrect assumptions on how his family feel, what his condition is or what the clubs involvement is, try shutting the @#$%&! up like the rest of the community should do until the facts come out.
Put your toys back in the cot and have a good night.

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Holy bejeezus , BV takes the one wood out .

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Thanks BV for putting so eloquently what needed to be said.

There are numerous issues here but people slagging off whomever they feel is responsible before anything solid is known are just adding to the distress of those they purport to be protecting.

Maybe just everyone take a breath and see where we are in a couple of weeks when we know a bit more beyond the media fueled speculation.

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Will some of you at least acknowledge that this is more than about Thursday night?

OK - I will, cause it is.

Of course it is.

I don’t think anyone asking for a little breathing space around the Elijah situation is in anyway trying to protect the club.

Just let it play out and see where we’re at.

If you want a cudgel to hit the club with there were plenty in the cabinet before last Thursday.

Using Elijah as the weapon is not helpful in any way.

Especially for him.

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We are not winning games, so there is always more.
As for Elijah, we don't know anything other than the end result.
Using the latter to hang the club on the former without knowing anything is just illogical IMO.

I don’t think you know what the word sycophantic means.

You hate everything about the club, so how could you possibly have a nuanced discussion about Elijah? That’s just commons sense.