Can’t keeping backing the players after that last qtr effort.

Beat us on the Contested ball and pressure acts.

And we lack zip on the outside

Agree, said during the week this would be the reason if we lost.
With our lack of midfield depth we can't afford 2 rucks. Add to this that cas plays better when he gets a run as second ruck.

Jones
Walsh
Betts

Can hold their heads high, not many others

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Bring back Cottrell at least he has a bit of mongrel about him. That’ll bring us to a grand total of 1/22 with mongrel if he plays

Mathematically it’s not but we’re miles off. We need to develop for next year and beyond. Honestly couldn’t care less if we make finals or not this year, we will be making up the numbers. I want premierships. Play the players who are most likely to be part of our next premiership team


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This is a young team that needs more experience in finals like games until they're mentally hardened... Collingwood outfit are veterans.

We get another opportunity for that type of taste and experience on Thursday

Probably missing Kennedy and Dow well, wouldn't drop him but needs to start impacting.

Not wanting to single out Dow when Martin, Gibbons, Murphy, Polsen having sub average games but expect more from a top pick and not currently delivering.

Nothing delusional. A side that's come from the worst rabble imaginable to suddenly playing for a finals spot in 12 months. All they did was shit the bed in their biggest game in years. Part of development. We weren't going from bottom to top 4 in that time. We might win 8 or 9, which is probably more than many expected. Just not ready for the big time yet. Hardwick took 7 years to make Richmond a champion side.

20/20 hindsight is a wonderful thing, but Kennedy for a ruckman today would have been wise

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Fighting it out to the end for a finals spot will help development more than anything. That's how you learn. We've spent too long giving up at the drop of a hat. I want to learn under the most pressure possible so when we likely play better next year we can be prepared mentally as well as physically.

100%

But it’s not hindsight. Could see it a mile away


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Yes, and likely Levi would've played better too getting a run on the ball. His form slump has come since we played two rucks. His more a forward/ruck than a full time forward.

Can some teach Cripps to kick at the right goal post. It seems every shot he has fades left for a behind.

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Gotta agree with that...he’s Robbo MkII. We needed to get more games into other players earlier. Dow and Polson a big ask against regular top 8 side for a finals spot. And we’re not 1 game out we’re 2....check the %

The draft is yet again our hilight of the year. We desperately need a big fish in the trade period...we have huge cap room which we’ll lose after this year. Must be a quality midfielder.

Agree with pretty much all of this.
Would add H. Shitload of ability but very lazy and doesn't play smart.

This club has been letting me down for twenty years

I went into today’s game with some expectation

Not sure why when we looked ordinary with wins against Freo & Gold Coast

Cripps stating the Blues are back wasn’t a good sign

Not enough belief in this group

Lost the game in the third quarter when we dominated in patches and scored little

Same story with our forward 50 efficiency. Diabolical.

Whipping boys let us down - but we keep picking them and putting some of them on three year contracts.

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I really thought Polson and perhaps Dow to a lesser extent would be used for the Swans and Crows games. Big ask to step up from a scratch match to that level.

Polson had some scores kicked on him but I thought his willingness to run and create, and his composure, seemed better than what we'd seen.

Dow seemed to battle to find space, not awful though.

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Carlton 109.5 ave games
Collingwood 94.9

Carlton 9 less than 50, Collingwood 7
Carlton 5 players more than 150 games, Colingwood 3

Carlton 26y, Collingwood 26y

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Correct, same shit , different decade!!

Yes

The lack of leadership is an indictment of these senior players.