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PostPosted: Sat Aug 22, 2020 1:39 pm 
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sinbagger wrote:
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OUT: Casboult (rested) Simpson (rested)

IN: Kennedy, Dow

Cripps plays 90% forward in Casboult's absence.
Kennedy & Dow pick up the slack in the middle.
TDK and Pitto rotate through the ruck and the forward line.
We still play three talls up forward: Pitto / TDK, Cripps, McKay - with Fisher, Martin, Betts and Gibbons at their feet.
Newnes goes into the backline to replace Simpson.

(Against GWS it's IN: Casboult, Simpson, Cunningham, OUT: Murphy, Curnow, TDK - with Cripps back to the centre.)

Agree.
Against the coasters Casboult had the least influence and could use a rest.
This also gives us a look at an alternative forward line where TDK is meant to have forward craft.
Plus 2 rucks against Grundy couldn't hurt.
And Dow finally gets a game to see if he really has improved. Or O'Brien or Honey etc.


I don’t think the right time to rest players is after a nine day break when we’ve just won two in a row.


It's a pre-emptive rest. Yes, we have a 9 day break, but we then have a 4 day break.


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PostPosted: Sat Aug 22, 2020 2:37 pm 
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We're going so well that we can afford to rest players against top 8 sides?
FMD :lol:

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PostPosted: Sat Aug 22, 2020 4:29 pm 
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We're going so well that we can afford to rest players against top 8 sides?
FMD :lol:

Isn't our mantra win against the top sides and lose against the bottom.

Although this year, touch wood, things have stablised a bit.

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PostPosted: Sat Aug 22, 2020 4:32 pm 
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bluechampion wrote:
OUT: Casboult (rested) Simpson (rested)

IN: Kennedy, Dow

Cripps plays 90% forward in Casboult's absence.
Kennedy & Dow pick up the slack in the middle.
TDK and Pitto rotate through the ruck and the forward line.
We still play three talls up forward: Pitto / TDK, Cripps, McKay - with Fisher, Martin, Betts and Gibbons at their feet.
Newnes goes into the backline to replace Simpson.

(Against GWS it's IN: Casboult, Simpson, Cunningham, OUT: Murphy, Curnow, TDK - with Cripps back to the centre.)


Casboult plays over Pittonet every day of the week. 9 day break, unless he’s injured he doesn’t need a rest. This is a must win game if we want to play finals


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PostPosted: Sat Aug 22, 2020 4:33 pm 
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With Cats playing the Dogs and Saints playing the Dees I reckon a win next week could well put us in the 8.

Toughest part we have is playing 4 games in 19 days. We play the Swans on the 3rd of those. Just a bit down there and they get you.


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PostPosted: Sat Aug 22, 2020 4:35 pm 
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What Carlton players have played every game this year?

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PostPosted: Sat Aug 22, 2020 4:36 pm 
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Teddy Hopkins wrote:
bluechampion wrote:
OUT: Casboult (rested) Simpson (rested)

IN: Kennedy, Dow

Cripps plays 90% forward in Casboult's absence.
Kennedy & Dow pick up the slack in the middle.
TDK and Pitto rotate through the ruck and the forward line.
We still play three talls up forward: Pitto / TDK, Cripps, McKay - with Fisher, Martin, Betts and Gibbons at their feet.
Newnes goes into the backline to replace Simpson.

(Against GWS it's IN: Casboult, Simpson, Cunningham, OUT: Murphy, Curnow, TDK - with Cripps back to the centre.)

Agree.
Against the coasters Casboult had the least influence and could use a rest.
This also gives us a look at an alternative forward line where TDK is meant to have forward craft.
Plus 2 rucks against Grundy couldn't hurt.
And Dow finally gets a game to see if he really has improved. Or O'Brien or Honey etc.


We must have been watching a different game. Casboult took some critical marks and for a while looked like the only bloke who could catch the thing. I thought Pittonet had next to no impact on the game. 3 touches including a kick out on the full that gave up a shot on goal. A few hitouts but not as damaging as TDKs hitouts. He did nothing in the ruck that Casboult couldn’t have done


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PostPosted: Sat Aug 22, 2020 4:44 pm 
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I’d be dropping Pittonet, going with TDK first ruck with Casboult relief ruck. Kennedy comes back in to provide a forward target when one of TDK/Casboult is having a spell on the bench.

Cottrell out for Cunners
SPS either up the ground or out for either Dow or Marchbank depending on form/fitness and team balance

Please not Polson. How many times do we have to try him?


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PostPosted: Sat Aug 22, 2020 5:13 pm 
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Teddy Hopkins wrote:
sinbagger wrote:
Teddy Hopkins wrote:
bluechampion wrote:
OUT: Casboult (rested) Simpson (rested)

IN: Kennedy, Dow

Cripps plays 90% forward in Casboult's absence.
Kennedy & Dow pick up the slack in the middle.
TDK and Pitto rotate through the ruck and the forward line.
We still play three talls up forward: Pitto / TDK, Cripps, McKay - with Fisher, Martin, Betts and Gibbons at their feet.
Newnes goes into the backline to replace Simpson.

(Against GWS it's IN: Casboult, Simpson, Cunningham, OUT: Murphy, Curnow, TDK - with Cripps back to the centre.)

Agree.
Against the coasters Casboult had the least influence and could use a rest.
This also gives us a look at an alternative forward line where TDK is meant to have forward craft.
Plus 2 rucks against Grundy couldn't hurt.
And Dow finally gets a game to see if he really has improved. Or O'Brien or Honey etc.


I don’t think the right time to rest players is after a nine day break when we’ve just won two in a row.

Levi is in poor form anyway and a rest is a soft form of drop.

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PostPosted: Sat Aug 22, 2020 5:55 pm 
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dablues wrote:
Danger’s set shot goal kicking is very poor too. I think I saw a stat that had him behind Cripps for accuracy.


Just his goal kicking? :lol:


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PostPosted: Sat Aug 22, 2020 6:20 pm 
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Handy if North knocks the Pies off. Leave Collingwood 2pts ahead having played one more game than us. They haven't had their bye yet.

Dogs haven't had their bye either. They're a game ahead with a similar percentage.

Huge game next week. First finals-like game we've played in years.


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PostPosted: Sun Aug 23, 2020 10:59 am 
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CFC8795 wrote:
What Carlton players have played every game this year?
12 games - Cripps, Docherty, Ed Curnow, Casboult, Murphy, Plowman, Newnes, Jones, Weitering, SPS, Setterfield, Walsh & Gibbons
11 games - Betts, Martin
10 games - Pittonet, Williamson


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PostPosted: Sun Aug 23, 2020 11:26 am 
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jake_h03 wrote:
I’d be dropping Pittonet, going with TDK first ruck with Casboult relief ruck. Kennedy comes back in to provide a forward target when one of TDK/Casboult is having a spell on the bench.

Cottrell out for Cunners
SPS either up the ground or out for either Dow or Marchbank depending on form/fitness and team balance

Please not Polson. How many times do we have to try him?


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I think they only tried Polson once this year in the preseason and he starred.

His attack from the BP reminded me of how Carrazzo made his first impression in the praccy games after we got him as a rookie from The Cats.
The Polson we saw in the past was an 18yo, or 19yo rookie playing against seasoned mature bodies, which was the done thing at Carlton and supporters should be mindful of that before they caste out players.

Having said that: No Changes for me despite Kennedy and Cuningham fit to play.

I want 3 talls in the forwardline and 3 talls in the backline.
2 rucks vs Grundy coz we need to work on him, give him someone to chase and hope he tires.

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PostPosted: Sun Aug 23, 2020 2:20 pm 
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bondiblue wrote:
jake_h03 wrote:
I’d be dropping Pittonet, going with TDK first ruck with Casboult relief ruck. Kennedy comes back in to provide a forward target when one of TDK/Casboult is having a spell on the bench.

Cottrell out for Cunners
SPS either up the ground or out for either Dow or Marchbank depending on form/fitness and team balance

Please not Polson. How many times do we have to try him?


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I think they only tried Polson once this year in the preseason and he starred.

His attack from the BP reminded me of how Carrazzo made his first impression in the praccy games after we got him as a rookie from The Cats.
The Polson we saw in the past was an 18yo, or 19yo rookie playing against seasoned mature bodies, which was the done thing at Carlton and supporters should be mindful of that before they caste out players.

Having said that: No Changes for me despite Kennedy and Cuningham fit to play.

I want 3 talls in the forwardline and 3 talls in the backline.
2 rucks vs Grundy coz we need to work on him, give him someone to chase and hope he tires.


Happy to be proven wrong but I’ve never seen more than a suburban player in Polson. Has looked a mile off the standard every time I’ve seen him. Most players you see a glimpse here or there even if they look off the pace but I haven’t seen it with Polson.

That said I don’t think I’ve seen him play purely as a shutdown small defender, so maybe there’s something in that. But I shudder to think of him taking possession in high pressure situations in D50


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PostPosted: Sun Aug 23, 2020 3:06 pm 
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jake_h03 wrote:
I’d be dropping Pittonet, going with TDK first ruck with Casboult relief ruck. Kennedy comes back in to provide a forward target when one of TDK/Casboult is having a spell on the bench.

Cottrell out for Cunners
SPS either up the ground or out for either Dow or Marchbank depending on form/fitness and team balance

Please not Polson. How many times do we have to try him?


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As many times as we've played SPS without EVER being dropped?

I'd be happy for Polson to get 10 consecutive games before I reserve my judgement on him

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PostPosted: Sun Aug 23, 2020 3:25 pm 
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Sounds like Dow performed well in the practice match however I suspect he will come in when we play GWS.

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PostPosted: Sun Aug 23, 2020 3:47 pm 
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99prelim wrote:
jake_h03 wrote:
I’d be dropping Pittonet, going with TDK first ruck with Casboult relief ruck. Kennedy comes back in to provide a forward target when one of TDK/Casboult is having a spell on the bench.

Cottrell out for Cunners
SPS either up the ground or out for either Dow or Marchbank depending on form/fitness and team balance

Please not Polson. How many times do we have to try him?


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As many times as we've played SPS without EVER being dropped?

I'd be happy for Polson to get 10 consecutive games before I reserve my judgement on him


Yeah, but as much as he’s out of form now, SPS has his potential. If Polson had done half of what SPS did in his first 20 games I’d be all for persisting with him. Btw I’m pretty sure Polson did play 10 games straight in 2018


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Owies has kicked 3 goals for the third week in a row in the 2s. Maybe not this week but you’d think with the short turn arounds coming up they’ll give Eddie a rest and Owies will her his chance. You’d think he deserves it as much as Honey, Philp or Cotterell


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PostPosted: Sun Aug 23, 2020 3:57 pm 
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The reason for people wanting to have a look at Polson is that he’s playing in a completely different position, now as a small defender instead of small forward, where as we all know he didn’t really show much at all. He’s been mentioned in the best in the reserve matches a few times. If SPS does get rested/managed/dropped he is the obvious replacement. I understand the skepticism though.


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PostPosted: Sun Aug 23, 2020 4:05 pm 
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The reason for people wanting to have a look at Polson is that he’s playing in a completely different position, now as a small defender instead of small forward, where as we all know he didn’t really show much at all. He’s been mentioned in the best in the reserve matches a few times. If SPS does get rested/managed/dropped he is the obvious replacement. I understand the skepticism though.


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