Jacobs is quite possibly the best player I have ever seen

_________________

Second best player of the modern era. After Seedsman.

_________________
The only way for some people to understand is for them to be on the receiving end

Left wing moralists
In self serving denial
They shit me no end

mmm dunno, whenever sauce plays radelaide smash us!

_________________

Keogh,
With all due respect you suffer from blissful hindsight clarity. It allows you to go back to 2008 and say "no" we don't want a Judd in our team".
Who would say that?
As for Sauce, Bluedog is right, serviceable

Keogh, get fixated on this that came later:
1. Poor recruiting
2. GC and GWS diluting the talent
3. A learning OTJ Senior Coach

There's your reason that Sticks et al. stinks

Jacobs is an average ruckman.

_________________
Never argue with idiots. They drag you down to their level and then beat you with experience!!!

After Monday and Tuesday, even the calendar says W T F .........
Visit http://fromthemoshpit.com/

Al pacino and wig are wrong
Jacobs is a superb tap ruckman better than kruez warnock and hampson
The club stuffed up getting warnock...too many picks and money for no need
Paid too much for judd in kennedy
Recruited and list managed around judd poorly
Club fully failed to build a premiership list and so all responsible must fall on their sword

Exactly

..he is better than average, he has performed better than knockers to date, at any rate..

_________________
..if you can't be good, be good at it..

Judd was needed to turn the culture around, but we blinked in negotiations and so got shafted. Kennedy was not the only way to get the deal done.
2006 Hampson at pick no 17 what a joke. Unproven player at 17. What were they thinking. But having thought he was good enough for 17 pick, what do we do?
2007 Kreuzer the following year at number 1 made a mockery of picking hampson at 17
2008 warnock for our first 2 draft picks. Was hampson a dud? Was Kreuzer a bust? Was jacobs useless? If they thought any if those things then the warnock trade made sense. Why then did it take them another 5 years to get rid of hampson? Kreuzer was playing good football, as was jacobs. Explain the rationale...you simply cant.
Simply it was dumb , arrogant , lazy recruiting.

list management dumb

_________________
Due to recent budget cuts and the rising cost of electricity, gas, and oil....... the Light at the End of the Tunnel has been turned off. We apologize for the inconvenience.

Warnock was not required at time, and I reckon that was Ratt's call. Strange at the time & still so in hindsight.
We held onto Hampson when PTA were calling & willing to give up pick#9 & likely offers made on MK. Really bad list management with our ruckmen due to the previous lack of rucks in the mid-2000's. Feast or famine.
All are good #1 ruckmen, we now need to use our nous to select another for development to take over the role.

Is he in the top 6 or 7 ruckman in the AFL?

_________________
Never argue with idiots. They drag you down to their level and then beat you with experience!!!

After Monday and Tuesday, even the calendar says W T F .........
Visit http://fromthemoshpit.com/

..which ones..?..

..on this year's form I'd have Jacobs a shade ahead of knockers.... ..on career, Jacobs ahead....

_________________
..if you can't be good, be good at it..

Champion Data had Jacobs ranked as the 21st best ruckman for the 2013 season after being ranked 8th after the 2012 season. Don't know how he ranks this season.

_________________
"You are being watched. The government has a secret system. A machine that spies on you every hour of every day. I know because I built it." - Finch

..2012 has been his strongest year, I would say that year was better than knockers' 2011.. ..Jacobs and the team dropped off last year.. ..knockers has only put almost one season worth of footy together, 2011, otherwise he averages about half a season per year.. ..durability and consistency go a long way..

..knockers drafted in 2005, 79 games.. ....not exactly a strong career to date..

_________________
..if you can't be good, be good at it..

Lots of ruckmen around the comp have missed a large amount of games; Leuenberger, Mumford, Kreuzer, Sandilands, D Simpson, Z Smith, Natanui, Pyke.

Not many durable rucks around besides Cox, Minson and Goldstein.

_________________
"You are being watched. The government has a secret system. A machine that spies on you every hour of every day. I know because I built it." - Finch

We'll?? Is he? Not on those Champion Data figures, he's not. Average ruckman, wouldn't you say?

_________________
Never argue with idiots. They drag you down to their level and then beat you with experience!!!

After Monday and Tuesday, even the calendar says W T F .........
Visit http://fromthemoshpit.com/

..I said he is better than average, not that he is top 6 or 7 out of 50+ rucks in the system.. .you said that.. ..hot tip, neither is knockers, and for the big picture of his recruitment, he better crack into the very good to top rucks in the second half of his career, cos he has been very, very average to date..

_________________
..if you can't be good, be good at it..

..krooz has played 106, with two years less in system and an acl, now broken foot.. ..yes rucks have injuries, but knockers has given a paltry return for years in the system.. ..he has so far only had one season where he played most of he year..

_________________
..if you can't be good, be good at it..

I was at yhe game, watched the replay twice and still cant believe the stats.

I say that Warnock beat Jacobs in the ruck and Jacobs' possessions, whilst impressive at 22 did not hurt us.
When Jacobs was in the ruck against Casboult they got a bit of a run on. Cometh warnock and Jacobs had some stiff competition.

I bet some of the taps won by Warnock were given to Jacobs...and I did some rough counting and gave up when it was obvious what was going on with the HO stats.

By the way I wish we had kept Jacobs and pick 24.

_________________
Everyone looks good in Navy Blue