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PostPosted: Mon May 11, 2015 10:37 pm 
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Synners you keep throwing around the term billionaires like they should be able to quickly tip cash in, but typically people do not have all their cash tied up in a bank account; most of their assets would not be liquid. Our footy club would run off about $40-50 million in revenue annually; that's a lot of money to stump up, even for a billionaire.

If their goal is for the football club to make a profit and pay for its own investments, i.e. financially successful and sustainable, I think that's a great goal.

If you want my personal opinion on the state of affairs at the club, I think emotions are running way too high. Yes it's football and it's competitive and filled with passion, but it's all a bit schoolyard right now, which is likely a contributing factor to the mixed messages; snipes and lapses of judgement getting in the way of a positive, inclusive message. The football media don't help in these situations unless you generate some empathy from them, and at that point you are basically manipulating them into printing what you want.

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PostPosted: Mon May 11, 2015 10:38 pm 
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Synbad wrote:
Ockham's Razor wrote:
bluegirl72 wrote:
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Oh so SOS comes in words up his mate nekminit Rogers is gone.. But paid out his six months.
That's because RollDaDice signed him up after his failed raid on hawthorn.
The president is not the most subtle of thinkers.. He's an oaf... Proving himself to be quite a baffoon.. Conducting himself with all the elegance of an elephant outdoors on a sunny day sipping Darjeeling in your grannies finest china..

Are you picturing that?



Amateur.


OR,
I reckon lots of us would like to know if the Board in any way feels responsible for the great big mess that is now our club?
would any of them fall on their swords so to speak?


Hey BG & Grooo,

Like all groups of people there are mixed reactions to what's going on. Some are in denial, some are working towards change, others are working theirs arses off to regain what we had.

None are stupid.

None want nor strive for failure.

None want, nor benefit from mediocrity nor from being under performers. Yes they all have egos, but that can help in leading to success.

They are all successful people in certain fields including management and leadership.

It's now a question of can they be harnessed to bring success to what is clearly a very desperate club.

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Insightful.. Let me read and re read this a few times to let it sink in....

You know what you remind me of?

A horoscope writer.. Sorry you just do..


I'm ok with that, you're entitled to your view & no need to apologise, be confident in your views funny boy.

You remind me of something else altogether.

Probably wise that I don't go any further though. So little to do, so much time........

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PostPosted: Mon May 11, 2015 10:43 pm 
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Tell me about Scorpios...

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PostPosted: Mon May 11, 2015 10:45 pm 
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OR, they have had long enough

if they performed this way in their fields they would have been fired ages ago

I am successful at a senior level in my field but that doesn't mean i would be good on a football board

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PostPosted: Mon May 11, 2015 10:46 pm 
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grrofunger wrote:
OR, they have had long enough

if they performed this way in their fields they would have been fired ages ago

I am successful at a senior level in my field but that doesn't mean i would be good on a football board


..you've got my vote..

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PostPosted: Mon May 11, 2015 10:51 pm 
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grrofunger wrote:
OR, they have had long enough

if they performed this way in their fields they would have been fired ages ago

I am successful at a senior level in my field but that doesn't mean i would be good on a football board


Fair call.

It's great that the message you wanted to deliver can be done in 3 lines.

I was starting to think all meaningful messages required multiple, repetitive, boring posts banging on and smashing others valid views.

Your approach to posting is refreshing :wink:

You never know, it might catch on.

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PostPosted: Mon May 11, 2015 10:52 pm 
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Big Kahuna Boot wrote:
grrofunger wrote:
OR, they have had long enough

if they performed this way in their fields they would have been fired ages ago

I am successful at a senior level in my field but that doesn't mean i would be good on a football board


..you've got my vote..


:thumbsup: that's 1 vote...

anymore....?


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PostPosted: Mon May 11, 2015 10:53 pm 
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Synbad wrote:
Tell me about Scorpios...


I can tell you about scorpions and frogs..... and I reckon I know which you'd be.

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PostPosted: Mon May 11, 2015 10:53 pm 
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OK cut to the chase.
This is a club in a terrible place.
Do people think that's a result of some bad luck?
I hate when players get lynched
Yeah they're not the best..
Some are injured.. Some are playing with injury.
Some don't have the iron will. But even though they're who we watch.. Let's cut them some slack.. They're not the real problem at the club. This is a possession of mediocrity..
It might crystallize with them on the field but the problem lies elsewhere.
It is born further up.. The top!
The most unaccountable of unaccountable
The most lazy of lazy
The most clueless of clueless..
When they're so bad why do we expect the team to be iron?
Quite simply is impossible.. The world does not spin like that..
When the culture of the club is weak at the top with those swing the tone... Why will the players be anything different?
We hear stories of the club chasing Aish.. To be truthful I dunno if there is truth in it.. I suggest it's true.
If you lose Gibbs and you bring in Aish.. Where are you?
Aish doesn't even play.. He will come into a side missing even more experience... And I'm the end will be just another retread early pick that won't kick on because as Moshe so beautifully described the goldfish die because the water is toxic.
Its a football wasteland... A footballers/ coaches graveyard..
Think of Richmond and Melbourne over your lifetime.
We're no different!

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PostPosted: Mon May 11, 2015 10:53 pm 
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the greek one?

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PostPosted: Mon May 11, 2015 10:54 pm 
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the skorpio

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Ockham's Razor wrote:
Synbad wrote:
Tell me about Scorpios...


I can tell you about scorpions and frogs..... and I reckon I know which you'd be.

Do Taurus....

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OK cut to the chase.


:lol: :lol:

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PostPosted: Mon May 11, 2015 10:56 pm 
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grrofunger wrote:
OR, they have had long enough

if they performed this way in their fields they would have been fired ages ago

I am successful at a senior level in my field but that doesn't mean i would be good on a football board



This is an important point. I think the lack of accountability - ie. a mea culpa from Board members followed by some resignations would make sense and show real leadership. I have a distinct feeling there is a lack of knowledge in regard to "the business of sport" on the Board. I remember how decisively underwhelmed I was when I read that strategy paper a few years ago. This piece of sheit was approved by the Board which is nearly the same as today. If I had delivered strategic plans of that quality in the corporates I worked for over the years, my head would have been chopped off.

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Ockham's Razor wrote:
grrofunger wrote:
OR, they have had long enough

if they performed this way in their fields they would have been fired ages ago

I am successful at a senior level in my field but that doesn't mean i would be good on a football board


Fair call.

It's great that the message you wanted to deliver can be done in 3 lines.

I was starting to think all meaningful messages required multiple, repetitive, boring posts banging on and smashing others valid views.

Your approach to posting is refreshing :wink:



..your angle is sidetrackïng you o.r..

....why is there such widespread unaccountability across so many levels of the club, on and especially off field..?.. ..we are arguably one of the most amateurish run clubs in this farcical league..

....and does anyone have any insider info on the playing group?, are they supportive of their leadership group?, how can players that work harder be satisfied with the leadership they are getting..??..

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PostPosted: Mon May 11, 2015 10:58 pm 
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grrofunger wrote:
the skorpio

Skorpios .. Greek works with genders.
Scorpions are male gender even if female because e don't check
Dogs are male
Cats are female

But most can be neuter.. Not the scorpion.

And yeah tavros.. In Greek.. Taurus later in Latin toro in Spanish

And for you OR .. Just bull!

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PostPosted: Mon May 11, 2015 10:59 pm 
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nah , can't be....there's no c in greece

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PostPosted: Mon May 11, 2015 11:01 pm 
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You need to pay greater attention funny boy,

There's lots to be learned.

So little to do and So much time.

They'd eat you for breakfast at this stage, funny boy.

Keep trying, one day you'll be ok and will be able to step up AND speak your views in the real world.


So much time & so little to do.



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PostPosted: Mon May 11, 2015 11:03 pm 
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Big Kahuna Boot wrote:
Ockham's Razor wrote:
grrofunger wrote:
OR, they have had long enough

if they performed this way in their fields they would have been fired ages ago

I am successful at a senior level in my field but that doesn't mean i would be good on a football board


Fair call.

It's great that the message you wanted to deliver can be done in 3 lines.

I was starting to think all meaningful messages required multiple, repetitive, boring posts banging on and smashing others valid views.

Your approach to posting is refreshing :wink:



..your angle is sidetrackïng you o.r..

....why is there such widespread unaccountability across so many levels of the club, on and especially off field..?.. ..we are arguably one of the most amateurish run clubs in this farcical league..

....and does anyone have any insider info on the playing group?, are they supportive of their leadership group?, how can players that work harder be satisfied with the leadership they are getting..??..


Cheers BKB,

You are right about being sidetracked.

However, it's tiresome to log on to get a fix of TC only to be bombarded with repetitive noise.

Most views are smacked down & criticised, it's almost to the point of why bother logging in, let alone sharing any views/insights.

Regards,

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PostPosted: Mon May 11, 2015 11:08 pm 
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nah , can't be....there's no c in greece

In coine greek there is a c but it's an s as well . just as there are a few omikron omega all o.
But it depends when you use them.
I didn't know you took an interest in Greek grrrrr . fascinating language.
You know how in English we say love for everything?
I love chocolate cake
I love my family
I love kouta
I love my dog
I love to love

In Greek there are a few different kinds of love..
Like you can't love cake as much as you love your partner for instance

Cool yeah?

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