I don’t. Bloke can’t run out of sight on a dark night.

Honestly, it’s like some of you haven’t seen him play at the highest level. He doesn’t have ‘burst speed’. He doesn’t have regular run-of-the-mill speed. He’s ALWAYS hurried & doesn’t have the skills (they’d need to be next level elite) to compensate.

He’s a reserve inside mid on a cheap contract. Not quite AFL level, but a handy bloke to have in the ressies when you’re trying to develop some outside mids.

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It's just a squad. Honey LOB & Plowman might not play

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I agree. I've never seen what people are on about when they talk about his pace

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Not talking about he’s speed we are talking about paddy’s form compared to other players be gifted games

No that's a fair point. I'm not a massive fan but I wouldn't have minded him in for Fisher or Honey.

Or Binns for one of them

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Selection integrity ? if Voss made wholesale changes after one loss then his integrity would come into question . Voss has to back his side in . We don't want one false move and your dead type selections . That would create instability . If we continue in a mediocre manner i reckon for sure you will see changes . Give things a chance .

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I don't think you understand what I'm talking about.
It's got nothing to do with making wholesale changes.

Surely LOB plays given the lack of run and Saad now exacerbating that

When we get to the top of the hill i will tell you exactly where we are.

Yes, i know exactly where we are.

We are in the middle of !@#$%îng nowhere.

Plowman got picked because we lost two of our most experienced defenders.

O’Brien got picked because we were short on outside run.

For Dow to be rewarded, Vossy will have to find a spot for yet another slow inside mid. Where would you put him, or the incumbents?

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Just feel for Dow. Appears to bust his gut - best in VFL and hits the scoreboard and has pace which we are crying out for and draftees get a look in before hand. Worse, we always thought Ed would be a back up mid and yet with George Kennedy Walsh and cerra all in, we still have Ed in, despite the fact that he clearly isn’t going to improve dramatically.
Don’t mind Ed , just don’t see the down side of replacing him with Paddy…don’t think Ed is significantly better and be good to see how paddy goes if he was given some confidence. He wasn’t terrible 3 years ago and is significantly better now….
Sigh

I don't understand what you are talking about ? i don't think you understand what i'm talking about .

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Kemp should have been picked ahead of Plowman last week

Your reason for Obrien being picked is purely your opinion unless your somehow on our selection committee. I think I know the answer to that.

Dow is now a slow mid ???

The whole point about integrity is you reward players for performance and Dows performance back end of last season and start of this suggests if your gonna recycle the same VFL players every 3rd week then he at least deserves that opportunity like others have been afforded for less output.
I'm not for 1 second suggesting he is all of a sudden an AFL star or going to immediately come in and get 30+ and kick 2 goals but how the hell would we know when he isn't rewarded for his efforts unlike others that cruise along knowing their place in the team isn't under threat.
Keep the players honest and make them accountable.
Fisher, Honey, Hewett and Kennedy have all been under performing this year BUT are automatic selections.

I think I get you Deano

Every alternate week LOB gets dropped…..goes back and then comes in. Rewarded for?

Where as Dow doesn’t get a sniff even when we are a mid down (previous weeks), with Vossy suggesting he’ll get a game if he performs in the twos and there is a mid spot available.

Will we play with 7 defenders (our usual M.O.), or play 6 defenders and shoehorn a mid into the 7th position (as we did vs Crows)?

Before the Crows game, I said I wanted us to play Cincotta and rest either Hewitt or E.Curnow. Now that we’ve lost Saad, surely Cincotta plays? Cincotta is no Saad (or Doc) but he has trained & played in our defensive system.

If McGovern is available, the question then becomes - do we also play Plowman or Kemp? While I think not having a genuine 7th defender upsets us structurally, given who is available and given the Saints aren’t a tall forward line, I think I would use Acres as the 7th defender. Appreciate it’s not ideal.

And the continuing selection dilemma - do TDK, SOJ & Pittonet all play? I remain unconvinced but I reckon they will go with it again this week.

B: Newman Young McGovern
HB: Cincotta Weitering Cowan
C: LOB Cripps Hollands
HF: Walsh SOJ Motlop
F: C.Durdin Harry Charlie

R: Pittonet Hewitt Cerra
Inter: Acres, E.Curnow, Kennedy, TDK
Sub: Fisher

In - Cincotta, LOB, McGovern
Out - Saad (inj), Honey, Plowman

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Problem is Young doesn’t….

He’ll get a chance elsewhere

Replace Ed

I'm disappointed that Paddy Dow missed out again. Though if we lose to the Saints the calls will get louder.

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