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The team I'd like to see run out vs Weagirls.

B: Durdin Weitering Newman
HB Docherty Young Saad

F: DeKoning Hewett Walsh
C: Cottrell Cripps OBrien

HF: Fisher Curnow Kennedy
F: Silvagni McKay Owies

I: Plowman Durdin Motlop Cerra
S: Newnes

Instead of robbing Silvagni from the running link up role to play 2nd ruck, Sam Durdin can go into the ruck for 5 mins each quarter and Plow can play 3rd tall as well as rotate with the other backmen.

If its true Cerra injured his knee at training last Thursday, I expect him to be fully fit this week after last week's poor performance.

Go Blues

kftorly78 wrote:

Does anyone know what’s happening with Liam Stocker. I thought it was glaringly obvious last week that him not coming in to replace Boyd was a mistake. Now he’s not even going to be an emergency.

Being made back into a midfielder. He knows and understands this. All good. Big preseason coming up for him. With Boyd stepping up, Williams to come back we have enough defenders. Playing back was only part of his development

Dow is playing well but coaching staff don't want him coming in and playing unfamiliar role. He is seen as a mid and being used that way after years of poor development. Put simply there isn't a spot for him at the moment

Good sides always have good players who can't get a game. Their time will come

bondiblue wrote:

Looks good to me. Young can do some ruckwork as wel. I'm hoping to see Hayes soon. Think he might add something

FarmerBlue wrote:

bondiblue wrote:

Looks good to me. Young can do some ruckwork as wel. I'm hoping to see Hayes soon. Think he might add something

Where is the run out of defence. Saad is brilliant. Newman and Docherty give a little. We really do need another runner such as Stocker if he could get his game going or the mids help out.

Teddy Hopkins wrote:

FarmerBlue wrote:

bondiblue wrote:

Looks good to me. Young can do some ruckwork as wel. I'm hoping to see Hayes soon. Think he might add something

Where is the run out of defence. Saad is brilliant. Newman and Docherty give a little. We really do need another runner such as Stocker if he could get his game going or the mids help out.

Is Stocker a runner? I think he is more of a distributor. It's why we miss Boyd.

Cottrell I would seriously consider as a running HB. Can run and use it well.

My line up would be

B: Docherty Young Durdin
HB: Cottrell Weitering Saad
C: Hayes Cripps O'Brien
HF: Durdin McKay Fisher
F: Silvagni Curnow Owies
Foll: TDK Hewett Walsh
Int: Kennedy Newman Cerra Motlop (Newnes)

FarmerBlue wrote:

Teddy Hopkins wrote:

FarmerBlue wrote:

bondiblue wrote:

Looks good to me. Young can do some ruckwork as wel. I'm hoping to see Hayes soon. Think he might add something

Where is the run out of defence. Saad is brilliant. Newman and Docherty give a little. We really do need another runner such as Stocker if he could get his game going or the mids help out.

So Weitering Durdin Hayes
For Kemp Plowman Newnes ??

Teddy Hopkins wrote:

FarmerBlue wrote:

bondiblue wrote:

Looks good to me. Young can do some ruckwork as wel. I'm hoping to see Hayes soon. Think he might add something

Where is the run out of defence. Saad is brilliant. Newman and Docherty give a little. We really do need another runner such as Stocker if he could get his game going or the mids help out.

FarmerBlue wrote:

bondiblue wrote:

Looks good to me. Young can do some ruckwork as wel. I'm hoping to see Hayes soon. Think he might add something

Where is the run out of defence. Saad is brilliant. Newman and Docherty give a little. We really do need another runner such as Stocker if he could get his game going or the mids help out.

FarmerBlue wrote:

Teddy Hopkins wrote:

FarmerBlue wrote:

bondiblue wrote:

Looks good to me. Young can do some ruckwork as wel. I'm hoping to see Hayes soon. Think he might add something

Where is the run out of defence. Saad is brilliant. Newman and Docherty give a little. We really do need another runner such as Stocker if he could get his game going or the mids help out.

Fair enough, although Boyd over Cottrell at the moment. More upside I believe.

Teddy Hopkins wrote:

FarmerBlue wrote:

bondiblue wrote:

Looks good to me. Young can do some ruckwork as wel. I'm hoping to see Hayes soon. Think he might add something

Where is the run out of defence. Saad is brilliant. Newman and Docherty give a little. We really do need another runner such as Stocker if he could get his game going or the mids help out.

OK.

Do you think Stocker offers run from defence? We all know Boyd does.

Stocker either handballs to next connection, or kicks down the line. He's not calm and calculative imo. IMO he runs sideways and doesn't break lines imo.

if we want to play finals we will have to win this one.

Yup….

that’s what i expected….!

kindest regards tommi

79Vintage wrote:

if we want to play finals we will have to win this one.

If we don't win, it will be goodbye 2022.
A fate worse than a fate worse than death. :smoking:

Go Blues!

tommi wrote:

Yup….

that’s what i expected….!

kindest regards tommi

You expected us to be playing Fremantle?

Author:	FarmerBlue [ Fri Jul 08, 2022 11:30 am ]
Post subject:	Re: R17: WCE Vs Carlton (Pre match discussion)
bondiblue wrote: The team I'd like to see run out vs Weagirls. B: Durdin Weitering Newman HB Docherty Young Saad F: DeKoning Hewett Walsh C: Cottrell Cripps OBrien HF: Fisher Curnow Kennedy F: Silvagni McKay Owies I: Plowman Durdin Motlop Cerra S: Newnes Instead of robbing Silvagni from the running link up role to play 2nd ruck, Sam Durdin can go into the ruck for 5 mins each quarter and Plow can play 3rd tall as well as rotate with the other backmen. If its true Cerra injured his knee at training last Thursday, I expect him to be fully fit this week after last week's poor performance. Go Blues Looks good to me. Young can do some ruckwork as wel. I'm hoping to see Hayes soon. Think he might add something

Author:	Crusader [ Fri Jul 08, 2022 11:49 am ]
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FarmerBlue wrote: kftorly78 wrote: Does anyone know what’s happening with Liam Stocker. I thought it was glaringly obvious last week that him not coming in to replace Boyd was a mistake. Now he’s not even going to be an emergency. Being made back into a midfielder. He knows and understands this. All good. Big preseason coming up for him. With Boyd stepping up, Williams to come back we have enough defenders. Playing back was only part of his development Dow is playing well but coaching staff don't want him coming in and playing unfamiliar role. He is seen as a mid and being used that way after years of poor development. Put simply there isn't a spot for him at the moment Good sides always have good players who can't get a game. Their time will come With Cripps taking a dozen ruck contests, Kennedy spending 40min each game on the bench and Walsh filling the void across half forward, that determination must be on a knife’s edge?

Author:	Teddy Hopkins [ Fri Jul 08, 2022 11:54 am ]
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FarmerBlue wrote: bondiblue wrote: The team I'd like to see run out vs Weagirls. B: Durdin Weitering Newman HB Docherty Young Saad F: DeKoning Hewett Walsh C: Cottrell Cripps OBrien HF: Fisher Curnow Kennedy F: Silvagni McKay Owies I: Plowman Durdin Motlop Cerra S: Newnes Instead of robbing Silvagni from the running link up role to play 2nd ruck, Sam Durdin can go into the ruck for 5 mins each quarter and Plow can play 3rd tall as well as rotate with the other backmen. If its true Cerra injured his knee at training last Thursday, I expect him to be fully fit this week after last week's poor performance. Go Blues Looks good to me. Young can do some ruckwork as wel. I'm hoping to see Hayes soon. Think he might add something Where is the run out of defence. Saad is brilliant. Newman and Docherty give a little. We really do need another runner such as Stocker if he could get his game going or the mids help out.

Author:	FarmerBlue [ Fri Jul 08, 2022 12:15 pm ]
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Teddy Hopkins wrote: FarmerBlue wrote: bondiblue wrote: The team I'd like to see run out vs Weagirls. B: Durdin Weitering Newman HB Docherty Young Saad F: DeKoning Hewett Walsh C: Cottrell Cripps OBrien HF: Fisher Curnow Kennedy F: Silvagni McKay Owies I: Plowman Durdin Motlop Cerra S: Newnes Instead of robbing Silvagni from the running link up role to play 2nd ruck, Sam Durdin can go into the ruck for 5 mins each quarter and Plow can play 3rd tall as well as rotate with the other backmen. If its true Cerra injured his knee at training last Thursday, I expect him to be fully fit this week after last week's poor performance. Go Blues Looks good to me. Young can do some ruckwork as wel. I'm hoping to see Hayes soon. Think he might add something Where is the run out of defence. Saad is brilliant. Newman and Docherty give a little. We really do need another runner such as Stocker if he could get his game going or the mids help out. Is Stocker a runner? I think he is more of a distributor. It's why we miss Boyd. Cottrell I would seriously consider as a running HB. Can run and use it well. My line up would be B: Docherty Young Durdin HB: Cottrell Weitering Saad C: Hayes Cripps O'Brien HF: Durdin McKay Fisher F: Silvagni Curnow Owies Foll: TDK Hewett Walsh Int: Kennedy Newman Cerra Motlop (Newnes)

Author:	jezzarules [ Fri Jul 08, 2022 1:26 pm ]
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FarmerBlue wrote: Teddy Hopkins wrote: FarmerBlue wrote: bondiblue wrote: The team I'd like to see run out vs Weagirls. B: Durdin Weitering Newman HB Docherty Young Saad F: DeKoning Hewett Walsh C: Cottrell Cripps OBrien HF: Fisher Curnow Kennedy F: Silvagni McKay Owies I: Plowman Durdin Motlop Cerra S: Newnes Instead of robbing Silvagni from the running link up role to play 2nd ruck, Sam Durdin can go into the ruck for 5 mins each quarter and Plow can play 3rd tall as well as rotate with the other backmen. If its true Cerra injured his knee at training last Thursday, I expect him to be fully fit this week after last week's poor performance. Go Blues Looks good to me. Young can do some ruckwork as wel. I'm hoping to see Hayes soon. Think he might add something Where is the run out of defence. Saad is brilliant. Newman and Docherty give a little. We really do need another runner such as Stocker if he could get his game going or the mids help out. Is Stocker a runner? I think he is more of a distributor. It's why we miss Boyd. Cottrell I would seriously consider as a running HB. Can run and use it well. My line up would be B: Docherty Young Durdin HB: Cottrell Weitering Saad C: Hayes Cripps O'Brien HF: Durdin McKay Fisher F: Silvagni Curnow Owies Foll: TDK Hewett Walsh Int: Kennedy Newman Cerra Motlop (Newnes) So Weitering Durdin Hayes For Kemp Plowman Newnes ??

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Author:	FarmerBlue [ Fri Jul 08, 2022 1:50 pm ]
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jezzarules wrote: FarmerBlue wrote: Teddy Hopkins wrote: FarmerBlue wrote: bondiblue wrote: The team I'd like to see run out vs Weagirls. B: Durdin Weitering Newman HB Docherty Young Saad F: DeKoning Hewett Walsh C: Cottrell Cripps OBrien HF: Fisher Curnow Kennedy F: Silvagni McKay Owies I: Plowman Durdin Motlop Cerra S: Newnes Instead of robbing Silvagni from the running link up role to play 2nd ruck, Sam Durdin can go into the ruck for 5 mins each quarter and Plow can play 3rd tall as well as rotate with the other backmen. If its true Cerra injured his knee at training last Thursday, I expect him to be fully fit this week after last week's poor performance. Go Blues Looks good to me. Young can do some ruckwork as wel. I'm hoping to see Hayes soon. Think he might add something Where is the run out of defence. Saad is brilliant. Newman and Docherty give a little. We really do need another runner such as Stocker if he could get his game going or the mids help out. Is Stocker a runner? I think he is more of a distributor. It's why we miss Boyd. Cottrell I would seriously consider as a running HB. Can run and use it well. My line up would be B: Docherty Young Durdin HB: Cottrell Weitering Saad C: Hayes Cripps O'Brien HF: Durdin McKay Fisher F: Silvagni Curnow Owies Foll: TDK Hewett Walsh Int: Kennedy Newman Cerra Motlop (Newnes) So Weitering Durdin Hayes For Kemp Plowman Newnes ?? Plus Owies for Honey. Won't happen but that's what I would do

Author:	jezzarules [ Fri Jul 08, 2022 1:58 pm ]
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Owies named in the team with CDurdin and Honey on extended bench so it's on the cards

Author:	Teddy Hopkins [ Fri Jul 08, 2022 2:07 pm ]
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FarmerBlue wrote: Teddy Hopkins wrote: FarmerBlue wrote: bondiblue wrote: The team I'd like to see run out vs Weagirls. B: Durdin Weitering Newman HB Docherty Young Saad F: DeKoning Hewett Walsh C: Cottrell Cripps OBrien HF: Fisher Curnow Kennedy F: Silvagni McKay Owies I: Plowman Durdin Motlop Cerra S: Newnes Instead of robbing Silvagni from the running link up role to play 2nd ruck, Sam Durdin can go into the ruck for 5 mins each quarter and Plow can play 3rd tall as well as rotate with the other backmen. If its true Cerra injured his knee at training last Thursday, I expect him to be fully fit this week after last week's poor performance. Go Blues Looks good to me. Young can do some ruckwork as wel. I'm hoping to see Hayes soon. Think he might add something Where is the run out of defence. Saad is brilliant. Newman and Docherty give a little. We really do need another runner such as Stocker if he could get his game going or the mids help out. Is Stocker a runner? I think he is more of a distributor. It's why we miss Boyd. Cottrell I would seriously consider as a running HB. Can run and use it well. My line up would be B: Docherty Young Durdin HB: Cottrell Weitering Saad C: Hayes Cripps O'Brien HF: Durdin McKay Fisher F: Silvagni Curnow Owies Foll: TDK Hewett Walsh Int: Kennedy Newman Cerra Motlop (Newnes) Fair enough, although Boyd over Cottrell at the moment. More upside I believe.

Author:	bondiblue [ Fri Jul 08, 2022 2:19 pm ]
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Teddy Hopkins wrote: FarmerBlue wrote: bondiblue wrote: The team I'd like to see run out vs Weagirls. B: Durdin Weitering Newman HB Docherty Young Saad F: DeKoning Hewett Walsh C: Cottrell Cripps OBrien HF: Fisher Curnow Kennedy F: Silvagni McKay Owies I: Plowman Durdin Motlop Cerra S: Newnes Instead of robbing Silvagni from the running link up role to play 2nd ruck, Sam Durdin can go into the ruck for 5 mins each quarter and Plow can play 3rd tall as well as rotate with the other backmen. If its true Cerra injured his knee at training last Thursday, I expect him to be fully fit this week after last week's poor performance. Go Blues Looks good to me. Young can do some ruckwork as wel. I'm hoping to see Hayes soon. Think he might add something Where is the run out of defence. Saad is brilliant. Newman and Docherty give a little. We really do need another runner such as Stocker if he could get his game going or the mids help out. OK. Do you think Stocker offers run from defence? We all know Boyd does. Stocker either handballs to next connection, or kicks down the line. He's not calm and calculative imo. IMO he runs sideways and doesn't break lines imo.

Author:	FarmerBlue [ Fri Jul 08, 2022 2:32 pm ]
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Teddy Hopkins wrote: FarmerBlue wrote: Teddy Hopkins wrote: FarmerBlue wrote: bondiblue wrote: The team I'd like to see run out vs Weagirls. B: Durdin Weitering Newman HB Docherty Young Saad F: DeKoning Hewett Walsh C: Cottrell Cripps OBrien HF: Fisher Curnow Kennedy F: Silvagni McKay Owies I: Plowman Durdin Motlop Cerra S: Newnes Instead of robbing Silvagni from the running link up role to play 2nd ruck, Sam Durdin can go into the ruck for 5 mins each quarter and Plow can play 3rd tall as well as rotate with the other backmen. If its true Cerra injured his knee at training last Thursday, I expect him to be fully fit this week after last week's poor performance. Go Blues Looks good to me. Young can do some ruckwork as wel. I'm hoping to see Hayes soon. Think he might add something Where is the run out of defence. Saad is brilliant. Newman and Docherty give a little. We really do need another runner such as Stocker if he could get his game going or the mids help out. Is Stocker a runner? I think he is more of a distributor. It's why we miss Boyd. Cottrell I would seriously consider as a running HB. Can run and use it well. My line up would be B: Docherty Young Durdin HB: Cottrell Weitering Saad C: Hayes Cripps O'Brien HF: Durdin McKay Fisher F: Silvagni Curnow Owies Foll: TDK Hewett Walsh Int: Kennedy Newman Cerra Motlop (Newnes) Fair enough, although Boyd over Cottrell at the moment. More upside I believe. Agree but Boyd is injured

Author:	FarmerBlue [ Fri Jul 08, 2022 2:33 pm ]
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bondiblue wrote: Teddy Hopkins wrote: FarmerBlue wrote: bondiblue wrote: The team I'd like to see run out vs Weagirls. B: Durdin Weitering Newman HB Docherty Young Saad F: DeKoning Hewett Walsh C: Cottrell Cripps OBrien HF: Fisher Curnow Kennedy F: Silvagni McKay Owies I: Plowman Durdin Motlop Cerra S: Newnes Instead of robbing Silvagni from the running link up role to play 2nd ruck, Sam Durdin can go into the ruck for 5 mins each quarter and Plow can play 3rd tall as well as rotate with the other backmen. If its true Cerra injured his knee at training last Thursday, I expect him to be fully fit this week after last week's poor performance. Go Blues Looks good to me. Young can do some ruckwork as wel. I'm hoping to see Hayes soon. Think he might add something Where is the run out of defence. Saad is brilliant. Newman and Docherty give a little. We really do need another runner such as Stocker if he could get his game going or the mids help out. OK. Do you think Stocker offers run from defence? We all know Boyd does. Stocker either handballs to next connection, or kicks down the line. He's not calm and calculative imo. IMO he runs sideways and doesn't break lines imo. Yep. That's my take

Author:	79Vintage [ Fri Jul 08, 2022 3:53 pm ]
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if we want to play finals we will have to win this one.

Author:	bluechampion [ Fri Jul 08, 2022 5:07 pm ]
Post subject:	Re: R17: WCE Vs Carlton (Pre match discussion)
Round 17 team v Fremantle Backs: Adam Saad - Jacob Weitering - Sam Docherty Half-backs: Nic Newman - Lewis Young - Lachie Plowman Centreline: Jack Newnes - Patrick Cripps - Sam Walsh Half-forwards: Matthew Owies - Harry McKay - Jack Silvagni Forwards: Zac Fisher - Charlie Curnow - Corey Durdin Followers: Tom De Koning - Matthew Kennedy - Adam Cerra Interchange: Matthew Cottrell - George Hewett - Jesse Motlop - Lochie O'Brien Emergencies: Sam Durdin - Will Hayes - Josh Honey - Will Setterfield In: Matthew Owies, Jacob Weitering Out: Josh Honey, Brodie Kemp

Author:	tommi [ Fri Jul 08, 2022 5:15 pm ]
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Yup…. that’s what i expected….! kindest regards tommi

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Author:	CFC8795 [ Fri Jul 08, 2022 5:21 pm ]
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79Vintage wrote: if we want to play finals we will have to win this one. If we don't win, it will be goodbye 2022. A fate worse than a fate worse than death. Go Blues!

Author:	GWS [ Fri Jul 08, 2022 5:32 pm ]
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tommi wrote: Yup…. that’s what i expected….! kindest regards tommi You expected us to be playing Fremantle?

Author:	tommi [ Fri Jul 08, 2022 5:33 pm ]
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Both….! kindest regards tommi

Author:	bondiblue [ Fri Jul 08, 2022 5:45 pm ]
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The MC must be really happy with the defensive cohesion the boys have shown without Weitering. Weitering and Young take their No 1 & 2. That's Kennedy & Darling, and the ruck, Williams 198 and at times, Nic Nat 202. Its a good sign for our defense if we don't need the height of Durdin 199 and prefer the more mobile Plowman 192 to do the job as 3rd tall. Plowman will probably take Darling. I'd like to see that.

Author:	bluechampion [ Fri Jul 08, 2022 5:47 pm ]
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GWS wrote: tommi wrote: Yup…. that’s what i expected….! kindest regards tommi You expected us to be playing Fremantle? Cut & Paste directly from the official site...