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GreatEx wrote:

Plus, I want the club to use the opportunity to groom the next captain.

Is this a St Kilda thread ....

keogh wrote:

I want to see Carroll Honey Ramsay Kemp given at least a fortnight in the seniors before the years out at the expense of blokes who arnt performing
It’s not @#$%&! rocket science

I reckon they'll all get given games. They're just taking fkn forever to do it

CK95 wrote:

keogh wrote:

I want to see Carroll Honey Ramsay Kemp given at least a fortnight in the seniors before the years out at the expense of blokes who arnt performing
It’s not @#$%&! rocket science

I reckon they'll all get given games. They're just taking fkn forever to do it

Ramsay is 70kg wringing wet.
Honey isn’t an impact player. Sometimes the game comes his way & he does ok, but there are no weapons in his arsenal.
Kemp & Carroll flash brilliance, but they’re still learning - Evel Knieval couldn’t jump the gap between their best and worst.

If we’re gifting games, we may as well bring Murphy straight back in.

CK95 wrote:

keogh wrote:

I want to see Carroll Honey Ramsay Kemp given at least a fortnight in the seniors before the years out at the expense of blokes who arnt performing
It’s not @#$%&! rocket science

I reckon they'll all get given games. They're just taking fkn forever to do it

Crusader wrote:

CK95 wrote:

keogh wrote:

I want to see Carroll Honey Ramsay Kemp given at least a fortnight in the seniors before the years out at the expense of blokes who arnt performing
It’s not @#$%&! rocket science

I reckon they'll all get given games. They're just taking fkn forever to do it

That’s the spirit mate , great forward thinking by you , don’t play kids who
Need exposure and see were they are at , let’s play overrated player like Murphy who has been finished for 2 years and we will play short whenever he plays ,,,

Inspiring stuff

Crusader wrote:

CK95 wrote:

keogh wrote:

I want to see Carroll Honey Ramsay Kemp given at least a fortnight in the seniors before the years out at the expense of blokes who arnt performing
It’s not @#$%&! rocket science

I reckon they'll all get given games. They're just taking fkn forever to do it

FWIW, I agree he's not ready but Honey has elite pace. To suggest he has no weapons is incorrect IMO.

Blue Vain wrote:

Crusader wrote:

CK95 wrote:

keogh wrote:

I want to see Carroll Honey Ramsay Kemp given at least a fortnight in the seniors before the years out at the expense of blokes who arnt performing
It’s not @#$%&! rocket science

I reckon they'll all get given games. They're just taking fkn forever to do it

FWIW, I agree he's not ready but Honey has elite pace. To suggest he has no weapons is incorrect IMO.

Maybe he could give athletics a go.

Spot on. I'll bet no one turns up.

azzablue wrote:

Crusader wrote:

CK95 wrote:

keogh wrote:

I want to see Carroll Honey Ramsay Kemp given at least a fortnight in the seniors before the years out at the expense of blokes who arnt performing
It’s not @#$%&! rocket science

I reckon they'll all get given games. They're just taking fkn forever to do it

You’ve missed the point.

Crusader wrote:

azzablue wrote:

Crusader wrote:

CK95 wrote:

[quote="keogh"]I want to see Carroll Honey Ramsay Kemp given at least a fortnight in the seniors before the years out at the expense of blokes who arnt performing
It’s not @#$%&! rocket science

I reckon they'll all get given games. They're just taking fkn forever to do it

You’ve missed the point.

CK95 wrote:

keogh wrote:

I want to see Carroll Honey Ramsay Kemp given at least a fortnight in the seniors before the years out at the expense of blokes who arnt performing
It’s not @#$%&! rocket science

I reckon they'll all get given games. They're just taking fkn forever to do it

Don't care who is in the side, just win the #$%^*&* game.

bondiblue wrote:

Cottrell will play wing and probably release SPS for mid role.

Cottrell is playing? I didn't think he made the cut

Author:	GreatEx [ Sat Jul 17, 2021 6:05 pm ]
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showbag wrote: GreatEx wrote: Plus, I want the club to use the opportunity to groom the next captain. Is this a St Kilda thread .... I knew I'd regret that choice of words.

Author:	Crusader [ Sat Jul 17, 2021 6:43 pm ]
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CK95 wrote: keogh wrote: I want to see Carroll Honey Ramsay Kemp given at least a fortnight in the seniors before the years out at the expense of blokes who arnt performing It’s not @#$%&! rocket science I reckon they'll all get given games. They're just taking fkn forever to do it Ramsay is 70kg wringing wet. Honey isn’t an impact player. Sometimes the game comes his way & he does ok, but there are no weapons in his arsenal. Kemp & Carroll flash brilliance, but they’re still learning - Evel Knieval couldn’t jump the gap between their best and worst. If we’re gifting games, we may as well bring Murphy straight back in.

Author:	Walsh [ Sat Jul 17, 2021 7:01 pm ]
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Don't see the problem allowing first year and some cases second year players learn their craft in VFL. I think we all want them to hold their spots when coming in. We have a history of playing them a few games then dropping them, then people complain why we are not winning games while playing raw undeveloped kids. Kemp hasn't played any football for two years and Carrol is still building his body and learning - he has only played 2-3 good games all year what's the rush. Even Cripps played mostly reserves in his first year as a first round pick Carrol came to the club as pick 41.

Author:	azzablue [ Sat Jul 17, 2021 8:24 pm ]
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Crusader wrote: CK95 wrote: keogh wrote: I want to see Carroll Honey Ramsay Kemp given at least a fortnight in the seniors before the years out at the expense of blokes who arnt performing It’s not @#$%&! rocket science I reckon they'll all get given games. They're just taking fkn forever to do it Ramsay is 70kg wringing wet. Honey isn’t an impact player. Sometimes the game comes his way & he does ok, but there are no weapons in his arsenal. Kemp & Carroll flash brilliance, but they’re still learning - Evel Knieval couldn’t jump the gap between their best and worst. If we’re gifting games, we may as well bring Murphy straight back in. That’s the spirit mate , great forward thinking by you , don’t play kids who Need exposure and see were they are at , let’s play overrated player like Murphy who has been finished for 2 years and we will play short whenever he plays ,,, Inspiring stuff

Author:	Blue Vain [ Sat Jul 17, 2021 9:53 pm ]
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Crusader wrote: CK95 wrote: keogh wrote: I want to see Carroll Honey Ramsay Kemp given at least a fortnight in the seniors before the years out at the expense of blokes who arnt performing It’s not @#$%&! rocket science I reckon they'll all get given games. They're just taking fkn forever to do it Ramsay is 70kg wringing wet. Honey isn’t an impact player. Sometimes the game comes his way & he does ok, but there are no weapons in his arsenal. Kemp & Carroll flash brilliance, but they’re still learning - Evel Knieval couldn’t jump the gap between their best and worst. If we’re gifting games, we may as well bring Murphy straight back in. FWIW, I agree he's not ready but Honey has elite pace. To suggest he has no weapons is incorrect IMO.

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Author:	Crusader [ Sat Jul 17, 2021 10:33 pm ]
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azzablue wrote: Crusader wrote: CK95 wrote: keogh wrote: I want to see Carroll Honey Ramsay Kemp given at least a fortnight in the seniors before the years out at the expense of blokes who arnt performing It’s not @#$%&! rocket science I reckon they'll all get given games. They're just taking fkn forever to do it Ramsay is 70kg wringing wet. Honey isn’t an impact player. Sometimes the game comes his way & he does ok, but there are no weapons in his arsenal. Kemp & Carroll flash brilliance, but they’re still learning - Evel Knieval couldn’t jump the gap between their best and worst. If we’re gifting games, we may as well bring Murphy straight back in. That’s the spirit mate , great forward thinking by you , don’t play kids who Need exposure and see were they are at , let’s play overrated player like Murphy who has been finished for 2 years and we will play short whenever he plays ,,, Inspiring stuff You’ve missed the point.

Author:	Crusader [ Sat Jul 17, 2021 10:53 pm ]
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Blue Vain wrote: Crusader wrote: CK95 wrote: keogh wrote: I want to see Carroll Honey Ramsay Kemp given at least a fortnight in the seniors before the years out at the expense of blokes who arnt performing It’s not @#$%&! rocket science I reckon they'll all get given games. They're just taking fkn forever to do it Ramsay is 70kg wringing wet. Honey isn’t an impact player. Sometimes the game comes his way & he does ok, but there are no weapons in his arsenal. Kemp & Carroll flash brilliance, but they’re still learning - Evel Knieval couldn’t jump the gap between their best and worst. If we’re gifting games, we may as well bring Murphy straight back in. FWIW, I agree he's not ready but Honey has elite pace. To suggest he has no weapons is incorrect IMO. Maybe he could give athletics a go.

Author:	Blue Vain [ Sun Jul 18, 2021 7:01 am ]
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Crusader wrote: Blue Vain wrote: Crusader wrote: CK95 wrote: keogh wrote: I want to see Carroll Honey Ramsay Kemp given at least a fortnight in the seniors before the years out at the expense of blokes who arnt performing It’s not @#$%&! rocket science I reckon they'll all get given games. They're just taking fkn forever to do it Ramsay is 70kg wringing wet. Honey isn’t an impact player. Sometimes the game comes his way & he does ok, but there are no weapons in his arsenal. Kemp & Carroll flash brilliance, but they’re still learning - Evel Knieval couldn’t jump the gap between their best and worst. If we’re gifting games, we may as well bring Murphy straight back in. FWIW, I agree he's not ready but Honey has elite pace. To suggest he has no weapons is incorrect IMO. Maybe he could give athletics a go. Quite possibly. I'm not saying he will become a consistent AFL player but some later picks are worth it if they have a standout quality. I think you're underselling him to say he doesn't have any weapons.

Author:	Waterman [ Sun Jul 18, 2021 9:16 am ]
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Years ago this game was always the match of the round , absolute sellouts. nowadays doesn’t even rate a mention. How the mighty have fallen . Go Blues . Just beat the filth.

Author:	Blue Vain [ Sun Jul 18, 2021 9:47 am ]
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Spot on. I'll bet no one turns up.

Author:	jake_h03 [ Sun Jul 18, 2021 9:50 am ]
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Blue Vain wrote: Spot on. I'll bet no one turns up. The umpires definitely will. The Collingwood players might. That'll probably be it

Author:	azzablue [ Sun Jul 18, 2021 10:07 am ]
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Crusader wrote: azzablue wrote: Crusader wrote: CK95 wrote: keogh wrote: I want to see Carroll Honey Ramsay Kemp given at least a fortnight in the seniors before the years out at the expense of blokes who arnt performing It’s not @#$%&! rocket science I reckon they'll all get given games. They're just taking fkn forever to do it Ramsay is 70kg wringing wet. Honey isn’t an impact player. Sometimes the game comes his way & he does ok, but there are no weapons in his arsenal. Kemp & Carroll flash brilliance, but they’re still learning - Evel Knieval couldn’t jump the gap between their best and worst. If we’re gifting games, we may as well bring Murphy straight back in. That’s the spirit mate , great forward thinking by you , don’t play kids who Need exposure and see were they are at , let’s play overrated player like Murphy who has been finished for 2 years and we will play short whenever he plays ,,, Inspiring stuff You’ve missed the point. I haven’t , just play the kids to give them experience , eventually they need to have a taste for it , and no better time than the remaining games of the season with.nothing on the line , The pies gave poulter and Bianco a good run of games to pick up the pace of afl ... there is no logic reason why honey shouldn’t be playing !! Have a look at owies and how much he has improved by playing with Eddie betts ,

Author:	sinbagger [ Sun Jul 18, 2021 10:11 am ]
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azzablue wrote: Crusader wrote: azzablue wrote: Crusader wrote: CK95 wrote: [quote="keogh"]I want to see Carroll Honey Ramsay Kemp given at least a fortnight in the seniors before the years out at the expense of blokes who arnt performing It’s not @#$%&! rocket science I reckon they'll all get given games. They're just taking fkn forever to do it Ramsay is 70kg wringing wet. Honey isn’t an impact player. Sometimes the game comes his way & he does ok, but there are no weapons in his arsenal. Kemp & Carroll flash brilliance, but they’re still learning - Evel Knieval couldn’t jump the gap between their best and worst. If we’re gifting games, we may as well bring Murphy straight back in. That’s the spirit mate , great forward thinking by you , don’t play kids who Need exposure and see were they are at , let’s play overrated player like Murphy who has been finished for 2 years and we will play short whenever he plays ,,, Inspiring stuff You’ve missed the point. I haven’t , just play the kids to give them experience , eventually they need to have a taste for it , and no better time than the remaining games of the season with.nothing on the line , The pies gave poulter and Bianco a good run of games to pick up the pace of afl ... there is no logic reason why honey shouldn’t be playing !! Have a look at owies and how much he has improved by playing with Eddie betts ,[/quote] Have to agree with Azza on this one, it’s criminal that Martin and Williams get to waltz around in the seniors with no fear of ever being dropped. Give guys like Honey and run and use that to put some pressure on these guys. Honey’s performances have merited at least a few games in the seniors.

Author:	Blue Vain [ Sun Jul 18, 2021 10:34 am ]
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I'll be interested to see how we line up today. 8 defenders named which leads us to believe one will play wing or midfield. On face value you'd think it's Stocker or Williams but Cottrell being selected makes you think Walsh will also play predominantly midfield and Cottrell will play defensive wingman. I'd like to see SPS play forward. He's looked when played there but the MC seem to push him consistently onto the wing. He has smarts, is deceptively strong overhead (A very good leap) and he tends to use it well around the front half. Some interesting selection for this week. Hopefully there is a plan in place to justify them.

Author:	Arnhem blues [ Sun Jul 18, 2021 1:30 pm ]
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interesting watching the hawks last night and Saints last week. Average sides who tackle ferociously. We tackle a bit in F50 and a bit when defending the goal line. Apart from that we helpfully corral, guard space and are courteous enough to ensure opposition teams have time to collect their thoughts, weigh up options and not be worried about physicality. Bless us.

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Author:	murraycray [ Sun Jul 18, 2021 11:19 am ]
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Don't care who is in the side, just win the #$%^& game.

Author:	keogh [ Sun Jul 18, 2021 11:45 am ]
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Crusader wrote: CK95 wrote: keogh wrote: I want to see Carroll Honey Ramsay Kemp given at least a fortnight in the seniors before the years out at the expense of blokes who arnt performing It’s not @#$%&! rocket science I reckon they'll all get given games. They're just taking fkn forever to do it Ramsay is 70kg wringing wet. Honey isn’t an impact player. Sometimes the game comes his way & he does ok, but there are no weapons in his arsenal. Kemp & Carroll flash brilliance, but they’re still learning - Evel Knieval couldn’t jump the gap between their best and worst. If we’re gifting games, we may as well bring Murphy straight back in. But where gifting games to individuals now So what if Ramsay is 70 kg( he is 75 kg) Other players are of similar weight and do ok in the AFL Honey does have the tools to make an impact Carroll deserves a game on what he has put out Kemp I would give a taste because he has a lot of potential Your talking shit

Author:	CFC8795 [ Sun Jul 18, 2021 11:55 am ]
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murraycray wrote: Don't care who is in the side, just win the #$%^& game. Same here! Go Blues!

Author:	jake_h03 [ Sun Jul 18, 2021 12:25 pm ]
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Can’t wait for Cottrell’s standard 7 clangers from 12 possessions. We’ve really missed him Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Pro

Author:	bondiblue [ Sun Jul 18, 2021 1:28 pm ]
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jake_h03 wrote: bondiblue wrote: Cottrell will play wing and probably release SPS for mid role. Cottrell is playing? I didn't think he made the cut Interchange. 23rd man last week. Didn't play, but didn't get dropped. Rewarded for his BOG performance in the Reserves combined Blues-Roos team vs Box Hill Hawks. I'm not sure about Cottrell but we are bereft of mids fit enough to run all day with all the injuries. Fisher may get midfield/ wing minutes. I'm guessing he hasn't been conditioned to play midfield (ie not match fit for such a running role on the MCG).