Sorry ...didn't read all your post..now have

How much has Hewett cost us? 4 years?
I've watched nearly every game he's played...he's bloody good....class player, tough...workhorse....good kick.... we need someone like him...bad.

Two way runner. He will show current lot hoe its done, and what is expected at a minimum...Bloods Culture.

I agree...the ruck is the biggest issue for mine.
Ned to either nullify or win the ruck to give us a chance, otherwise we rely on the kids to get us to the promised land.

Not sure, you're not happy about Cerra? Yes / No?

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Keogh just to be clear mate what would you have done with our draft hand, you'd go to the draft I presume?

Honest question not being a smart arse. I think the club have done really well so far, we have drafted for need.

Young mid with some games under belt
Backup tall defender in early 20s to develop
Tough experienced on baller

Aside from a better ruck option I really can think of much that we could have realistically expected to add without more carnage.

And I love Gibbons endeavour but he was overlooked in about 50 drafts because clubs saw short comings. He will never be accused of not getting everything out of himself, effort superb, but not AFL class.

SPS... Good luck to him. Cooked with us, if he does well - and that's a 50/50 - I reckon he'll do so knowing that it couldn't have happened with us.

Pick 6. Lottery the way we draft, and in a year with a fair bit of lottery anyway, I'm cool with it.

Cheer up, I reckon it's OK.

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Congratulations CK95

best of luck to them. i thought newnes might have joined them

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my last one was rubbish

well, pick 52 for sps wont get us much

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my last one was rubbish

Just Lewis Young I guess

Yep. Not much

Overall, I think we have improved our list if that is what list management is meant to do.

In: Cerra, Hewett, Young, Pick 25
Out: SPS, Gibbons, Ramsay, Betts, Murphy, Casboult

Personally, I would have given Gibbons a go as a midfielder but I’m not going to quibble about that.

My big ask last year was for McKay to step up - tick!
My big ask for the coming year is for Dow to live up to his pick 3 expectation. If that happens, we will be right in the thick of things.

Bottom line at this stage is this
The playing group hasn’t proven themselves yet
The results arnt there
I like Hewett. Good pick up with free agency. He is your fifth midfielder
So is Cerra at this stage.
To give up a pick 8 and a future third rounder is ridiculous
He is 22 but will need to improve

McGovern
Setterfield
Martin
Williams
Saad
Fogarty
Newnes
Have done pretty much @#$%&! all
There are a few draft picks and Salary cap space taken up by that lot

We need another key defender
Big guys take time
Hopefully Young provides us with a big defender to replace Jones

Ramsay’s papers were stamped when OBrien was preferred later in the year
Ramsay showed more than OBrien and is 2 years younger
This sort of shit has gone on for years at this club

The fact that O’Brien is on the list still when his contract is up is a joke
The guy ain’t AFL standard
But he is a pick10
He will come good
Ramsay was always never going to make it

At this time of the year posters talk up the club with the latest inclusions
Come round 15 the following year they change their tune

If all this recruiting of players from other club’s doesn’t work then rebuild

Hammertime!

Great post. Pragmatic

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We'll see.

Played Finals this year, for the Grand Finalist ... yeah, not much.

In his debut game against Carlton as a 19yo he took 6 intercept marks and had 21 disposals ...he beat....one Charlie Curnow in that game....not much.

201cm, 100 kgs, 24 Games, Finals experience, played multiple roles, Forward, Back, Ruck, only 22yo ... for a pick 52. I think that's a huge win.

SPS was effectively sacked!
He wasn't offered a contract.
Austin tried to find him a home.
We got what the market was prepared to pay.

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Ramsay and Gibbons needed to go to give us 2 Draft Picks.

Implies we will upgrade a rookie, or maybe 2.

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Fair enough.

Those names you mentioned have to step up and earn their keep.

LOB is still young, but he hasn't shown much.

Re the highlighted line .. not me. There were more pressing issues than the playing list for mine.
The players needed to be guided properly as you know, with the high draftees need for better development, fitness and form benchmarks for selection, game Plan, etc etc

Lets hope the Sayers reset, sets us up for the next level of High Performance.

I like the list...a lot.

Have high hopes/ fingers crossed 22yo's TDK, Mirkov, Young, Cerra, Dow, really step up in 2023, and they are young enough to expect upside in 2024 and beyond, along with younger ones who've shown promise like Kemp, Stocker, Honey, Philp whove played AFL, and Carroll from WA who has shown some VFL form but only 20yo.

I'm interested if you have the same feeling about the above youth keogh. Not worried what Cerra cost in that list because Austin didn't pay overs for him, like some of the senior players you mention.

I think the above is a great insight into our future, and the rest on our list add value or are the backbone of the future Weiters, Walsh, Harry, Charlie and Jack

Huge pressure on kids like Setterfield, LOB, Williamson, Fogarty and even to a lesser degree Cuningham and Fisher with Durdin and Owies eyeing his spot.

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Statistically their 5th best mid?
Care to share how you came to that conclusion?

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Looking forward to seeing our potential realised.

Statistical the 3rd best Midfielder under 22 years of age in the comp behind Walsh and Brayshaw.
Pretty impressive young Midfielder with huge upside and hopefully a 200 game premiership player for us !!!

Thanks Deano and BV looks like a great pick up to me

Imagine if Richmond or Hawthorn did unit everyone would be saying it was a master stroke


Great news in my view and exactly what WE NEED

Come on BV you know Keogh never lets the facts get in the way of good old fashion yarn.

Apparently he is the happiest, most bitter and twisted Carlton supporter, non member, the Club doesn't currently have.

If we won a Premiership, Keogh's first post after the game would be......'We won't win it next year'!

Regards Cazzesman

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There would be enough donations provided by the AFL Media to keep the Sperm bank stocked for the next millennium

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Winston Churchill

Are we talking about the same Cerra that's made the >22yo AA team the last 2 years running?

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Yeah, but what would you DO?

Trade out all those you listed for draft picks? From whom? And for what picks?

Get Cerra but for a 4th rounder? Not happening.

We have traded, as I said, for need and I think there is a clear plan behind it rather than just 'let's trade our 1st round pick for someone... Anyone!'

We now need everything to go right but they are the age profile we need and it's now up to coaching and development staff.

I like your posts Keogh but you're a bit all over the place here so I'm Not sure what you wanted to happen this trade period, that actually could have happened.

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Congratulations CK95

I admit I have always been a fanboi..............................he just needs a good run at it. I still remember him obliterating teams in the TAC with his strength and speed.


FREEMAN SEARCHES FOR AFL LIFELINE

FORMER top-10 pick Nathan Freeman hasn't given up on receiving another AFL lifeline.

Freeman, 26, nominated for the NAB AFL Mid-Season Rookie Draft this season but was overlooked despite significant interest from 2020 premiers Richmond among a host of other clubs.

It came after a blistering VFL campaign with Frankston, where the former Collingwood and St Kilda midfielder averaged 36.7 disposals per game and amassed more than 40 touches in five of his first seven matches.

Freeman is now working at Connors Sports Management alongside leading player agents Paul Connors, Robbie D'Orazio and Nick Gieschen, but hasn't given up on his AFL dream after it was prematurely cut short by persistent hamstring injuries in 2018.

"Prior to this year, in conversations with Paul and Robbie and Nick, I put all of my chips into the management space … and I still am, but after this year with my form and what I still think I can do in the future, I'd be silly not to try and have another crack," Freeman told AFL Exchange on Continental Tyres AFL Trade Radio.

"They're of the same opinion as well. I wouldn't have put myself into the mid-season draft or still harbour those ambitions if I didn't think that I could still have a really good crack for at least the next seven or eight years.

"I'm only 26, so I still harbour those ambitions. I'd go all-in on that, if it was to happen. I see what I can still do, even coming on in leaps and bounds from my 2019 year in the VFL. The main thing was my body and my durability, that's what tipped me out of the AFL system in the first place.

"I've put a body of work together in the last 12 or 24 months where I've been injury-free and I'm really confident in my body. I wouldn't be putting myself out there or putting myself in a situation to hopefully get taken again if I didn't think that I'd be a really valuable asset to any club." – Riley Beveridge

I know list spaces are tight but a possible rookie??????? He still seems to have the blistering pace. If you could get 4 years out of him?

His body isn't battered and busted from the past 4 years in the AFL so he should be a solid 26 not a broken 26. By all accounts his hamstrings are holding up.

Regards Cazzesman

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