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PostPosted: Fri Jun 26, 2026 12:00 pm 
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keogh wrote:
Another problem with supporters is they are happy if they win any game
Like the comments after we beat Essendon** by a couple of goals last year
A team that has won one game since as has been diabolically bad

It’s like supporters think there in a 1993 time warp
Guess what
Time constantly brings change


Mate, I don't mind your posts. I have a laugh.
You paint everyone with the same brush.
You believe everything nuff nuffs say on media, and don't like nice people.
Like all of us, and coaches, you are not a know it all, but you talk like a person who thinks they do. Trump like :lol:
Don't get angry. That's just my perception.

I'm responding to the above re Effendope game.
You really don't know what happened in that game ie the back drop.

You know this much about footy:
Never underestimate an underdog who has a lot to prove (see Aust vs Turkey, or Carlton in 1999).
This game was Effendopes Grand Final. Like Carlton folk the Effendope and carlton clash can come up with surprising results (see 2002 game)
Effendopes knew we had Weitering missing and Caddy could run amok.
They had players returning: Redman (their best defender, Durham, their best mid, and Pick 5 200cm athletic 200cm at HF)
The Effendon midfield wasn't their weakness, so they thought they could win.
We had Carroll join HOF and Motlop in LTI, Ollie and weiters and the Elijah hang over against us.
A lot of sore bodies after beating Cats. Cripps and walsh were carrying injuries,sore as fk,
carrying 3 babies Ison, Byrne, Young. I guess you could call Wilson and Dean babies too.

It was a fair fight.
You think we were lucky to win. I think we did what we had to do to put them away with 10 minutes left on the clock, and didnt know how to kill the game.

I was proud on the boys. Rapt what Fraser was able to get them to do to win the game. You choose to spit on their effort and ability. I didnt overrate the team, you do.

We got the 4 points. That's the bottom line. We move on.

Its only a game, A game of inches. Some games are not worth reading too much into. Like I said, we won, move on.

As for the rest of your post, sure, fire away.

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PostPosted: Fri Jun 26, 2026 12:09 pm 
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Drewgirl wrote:
Its ok for Voss to say that we were trying to protect our lead now !

How many times have we seen him on the ground flare his arms around for us to flood back when we had a slender lead in the 4th. And the stress and intensity on his face while doing so. Enough to scare anyone into not making any mistakes i would have thought.

So who's fault was it that we were being protective of the lead. It was his instructions.

No, no, no... it was all Austin I tells ya!

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PostPosted: Fri Jun 26, 2026 12:15 pm 
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GWS wrote:
london blue wrote:
keogh wrote:
It’s obvious that Voss makes a reasonable assistant coach but a senior coach he ain’t and never will be
Face it because of his name and playing record he was a senior coach at AFL level for nearly 10 year

He have wasted nearly half a year
Anyway we move on
He is on 800000 has had a break after “ resigning “
Let’s move on
And get the best coach available
The board and club have [REDACTED] up senior coaching appointments for 25 years
Let’s hope the club gets this one right

Who would you recommend if you were in the drivers seat ( top 3 choices)?

Let you know in five years…

:lol:

Love to know which club(s) keogh believes have a perfect board, that have never stuffed up or relied on blind luck... who should we model ourselves on?

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PostPosted: Fri Jun 26, 2026 1:25 pm 
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From AFL website....

On Friday, the Bombers also announced the panel to select the new coach, which will feature president Andrew Welsh, vice president Anthony Di Pietro, board members Ted Richards and Tim Roberts, and HR executive Caroline Monzon.

While no external people are on the panel, the Bombers said they would “draw on subject matter experts from both within the club and outside it to inform our assessment and decision-making”.


:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

Makes out Committee positively elite :thumbsup:

But I'll let Keogh be the judge of that. :wink:

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PostPosted: Fri Jun 26, 2026 3:18 pm 
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Cazzesman wrote:
From AFL website....

On Friday, the Bombers also announced the panel to select the new coach, which will feature president Andrew Welsh, vice president Anthony Di Pietro, board members Ted Richards and Tim Roberts, and HR executive Caroline Monzon.

While no external people are on the panel, the Bombers said they would “draw on subject matter experts from both within the club and outside it to inform our assessment and decision-making”.


:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

Makes out Committee positively elite :thumbsup:

But I'll let Keogh be the judge of that. :wink:

Regards Cazzesman


FMD

They are a nepotistic egotistic oligarchical rabble.

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PostPosted: Fri Jun 26, 2026 3:36 pm 
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Nothings perfect
Essendon* are a rabble why compare
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PostPosted: Sat Jun 27, 2026 7:16 pm 
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Big-name assistant throws his hat in the ring for the Carlton job, not Essendon*’s
Jake Niall

June 27, 2026 — 6:12pm

Hawthorn assistant coach Daniel Giansiracusa will not pursue the Essendon* coaching position, but is expected to be a candidate for the Carlton role that is occupied until season’s end by unbeaten interim coach Josh Fraser.

While Fraser won his sixth game on end as caretaker coach of the Blues, who easily accounted for the Eagles on Saturday, this masthead confirmed that Giansiracusa, the assistant who left Essendon* last year to enhance his chances of becoming a senior coach, would not be a candidate for the Bombers role. The club has just established a five-member panel to select its next senior coach.

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PostPosted: Tue Jun 30, 2026 10:34 am 
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https://7news.com.au/sport/afl/six-name ... c-22503898

Jaymie Graham
James Rahilly
James Kelly
Daniel Giansiracusa
Brendon Lade
Corey Enright

…and Josh Fraser, call me maybe?

Odds are looking good if your first name starts with a J!

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PostPosted: Tue Jun 30, 2026 11:54 am 
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*paging jimmae*

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PostPosted: Tue Jun 30, 2026 1:15 pm 
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Seriously Im worried. Frase has the team happy and playing a good style of footy. Do we get another coach in, who wants to play HIS way and the game plan changes again.

Scared we will no progress if that happens

Will be hugely happy if the changes improve us of course

Im in the "better the devil you know" camp - give Frase the gig


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PostPosted: Tue Jun 30, 2026 1:26 pm 
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I'm wondering if secretly the Committee has a big white board. On the back of it, facing away from the Interviewees is all the necessary boxes, that Josh Fraser has already ticked off this year. That list is the Committee's definitive Base Line for a new Coach. Those are the new Non-Negotiable benchmarks for any new Coach.

After each interview the Committee Members check their notes and retire to the back of the whiteboard to compare. The winner has to best all these Benchmarks to be considered.

I know I am being a tad facetious, but I think it is pretty clear Josh has drawn the line in the sand, with many non-negotiables.

Here is AI's take on an AFL Coach.

Essential Attributes of an AFL Coach
A successful AFL coach must possess a combination of skills and qualities that contribute to effective team management and performance. Here are the key attributes:

People Management Skills
Strong interpersonal skills: Ability to build positive relationships with players.
Conflict resolution: Manage and resolve disputes within the team.
Motivation: Inspire and encourage players to perform at their best.
Communication Abilities
Clear messaging: Convey strategies and game plans effectively.
Feedback: Provide constructive criticism and praise to players.
Listening skills: Understand player concerns and suggestions.
Game Understanding
Technical knowledge: Deep understanding of game strategies and tactics.
Adaptability: Ability to adjust game plans based on opponent strengths and weaknesses.
Leadership Qualities
Vision: Set clear goals and direction for the team.
Integrity: Lead by example and maintain ethical standards.
Decision-making: Make quick and effective decisions during games.
Coaching History
Experience: Previous coaching roles or significant playing experience in the sport.
Apprenticeship: Time spent learning under successful coaches.
Personal Qualities
Resilience: Handle pressure and setbacks effectively.
Passion: A genuine love for the game and commitment to the team's success.
These attributes collectively enhance a coach's ability to lead a team effectively, fostering a positive environment that promotes both individual and team growth.


Some may say the only one that is yet to be fully tested is Resiliance. There are 8 games to go and the team's performances against this years very best teams will tell the tale.

Then there is the Corporate side of things. Wright and Davies are the perfect mentors for steering that aspect if they think Josh is lacking. The way Josh has totally disarmed the Media, would suggest he could handle the money men with aplomb.

The selection process will be interesting in terms of what the Committee have seen and heard with their own ears/eyes i.e. Fraser vs the data and anecdotal evidence they have to get from others, about the interviewees. Each Interviewee can spruik a philosophy of game plan, but the Committee has to take other peoples advice on the many other attributes AI proposed.

How can the Committee know if Graham or Kelly are grand people persons, except what they are told by others?

Interesting times.

Regards Cazzesman

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PostPosted: Tue Jun 30, 2026 1:30 pm 
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Really happy with what he's done but still want to see how he goes against Hawthorn & Brisbane.

Oppo coaches have had 6 weeks to work us out so the run home's going to be very interesting

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PostPosted: Tue Jun 30, 2026 2:05 pm 
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Cazzesman wrote:
I'm wondering if secretly the Committee has a big white board. On the back of it, facing away from the Interviewees is all the necessary boxes, that Josh Fraser has already ticked off this year. That list is the Committee's definitive Base Line for a new Coach. Those are the new Non-Negotiable benchmarks for any new Coach.

After each interview the Committee Members check their notes and retire to the back of the whiteboard to compare. The winner has to best all these Benchmarks to be considered.

I know I am being a tad facetious, but I think it is pretty clear Josh has drawn the line in the sand, with many non-negotiables.

Here is AI's take on an AFL Coach.

Essential Attributes of an AFL Coach
A successful AFL coach must possess a combination of skills and qualities that contribute to effective team management and performance. Here are the key attributes:

People Management Skills
Strong interpersonal skills: Ability to build positive relationships with players.
Conflict resolution: Manage and resolve disputes within the team.
Motivation: Inspire and encourage players to perform at their best.
Communication Abilities
Clear messaging: Convey strategies and game plans effectively.
Feedback: Provide constructive criticism and praise to players.
Listening skills: Understand player concerns and suggestions.
Game Understanding
Technical knowledge: Deep understanding of game strategies and tactics.
Adaptability: Ability to adjust game plans based on opponent strengths and weaknesses.
Leadership Qualities
Vision: Set clear goals and direction for the team.
Integrity: Lead by example and maintain ethical standards.
Decision-making: Make quick and effective decisions during games.
Coaching History
Experience: Previous coaching roles or significant playing experience in the sport.
Apprenticeship: Time spent learning under successful coaches.
Personal Qualities
Resilience: Handle pressure and setbacks effectively.
Passion: A genuine love for the game and commitment to the team's success.
These attributes collectively enhance a coach's ability to lead a team effectively, fostering a positive environment that promotes both individual and team growth.


Some may say the only one that is yet to be fully tested is Resiliance. There are 8 games to go and the team's performances against this years very best teams will tell the tale.

Then there is the Corporate side of things. Wright and Davies are the perfect mentors for steering that aspect if they think Josh is lacking. The way Josh has totally disarmed the Media, would suggest he could handle the money men with aplomb.

The selection process will be interesting in terms of what the Committee have seen and heard with their own ears/eyes i.e. Fraser vs the data and anecdotal evidence they have to get from others, about the interviewees. Each Interviewee can spruik a philosophy of game plan, but the Committee has to take other peoples advice on the many other attributes AI proposed.

How can the Committee know if Graham or Kelly are grand people persons, except what they are told by others?

Interesting times.

Regards Cazzesman


Nice analysis, but I'd say the jury is still out for both resilience AND adaptability, both for Fraser and for his ability to make the playing group resilient and adaptable.


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PostPosted: Tue Jun 30, 2026 2:28 pm 
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CK95 wrote:
Really happy with what he's done but still want to see how he goes against Hawthorn & Brisbane.

Oppo coaches have had 6 weeks to work us out so the run home's going to be very interesting


If we win or get within 2 goals of those two in form teams.....and wins the rest......FMD. We have ourselves an additional candidate.

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