You don't win finals with a second rate coaching staff. That was a disgraceful effort by the coach. I would not know where to start.
Carlton sides don't lose finals like that
Build a backline or perish. And get a backline coach or perish
Put Kruezer at centre half forward or perish. You can't win finals with one forward
Tackle, Tackle, Tackle. Disgraceful tackling effort. Not up to finals standard
Delist the down hill skiers the players who play one quarter out of four. (Stevens, Wiggins, Houlihan, Cloke & friends can not win you a premiership.

No. You said: I agree. We should fold. Lock the doors and throw away the keys.

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when you have eliminated the impossible, whatever remains, however improbable, must be the truth

Feelgood Hit of the Winter - GHRP-2, GHRP-6, CJC-1295, AOD-9604, Humanofort and Hexarelin

it burns...it burns.

hard to stomach.

lets hope it is a learning experience that is overcome next season.

so frustrating tho - they did all the hard work, and not to get over line ahhhhhhhh

You reckon? We're a team on the rise.

Give us two games against all of the top eight sides from this year and I reckon we'll end up in front.

And you said "if you think we'll cruise into the top 4...blah blah blah"

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"I had to eat"

There's the whole crux of the problem right there.

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Just because I'm offended, doesn't mean I'm wrong.

How disappointing!! Our 'exciting' midfield - what a joke!! Down hill skiers-absolutely -where was Gibbs tonight - weak as p++s - Walker - couldn't get a kick in a stable and Murphy gets all his kicks going fwd -wouldn't win a hard ball get if his life dependent on it!!
Wiggins makes one interception for the night and will play all 2010- we refuse to play a strong player around the HFF - poor Fev no support!! - Kreuz has to play CHF - backline is only part of the problem - we hardly win any contested balls at ball ups!! Why???
No balls!! Our on ballers are all soft c**ks - Really miss Hadley! Why don't we have another hard nut for that role - no planning Ratts! How disappointing - I am furious - believe that we could have made a prelim this year - a lot of work to be done during trade time and pre season- some players need to read some things other than their own diaries!

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PEAKIE

I don't ever want to admit that Blight is correct, but: We were very poorly coached tonight, and our gameplan truly was dumb.

I would love to know why Judd was left to watch from the bench as the game slipped away from us. When you have the chance to put the game away, the one thing you DON'T do is pull your star player to the sideline... Then LEAVE HIM THERE.

Let's see if Ratten puts his hand up and accepts some responsibility for this disastrous move, instead of glossing over things and talking about how far we've come.

The MC must also shoulder some of the blame.

Garlett for Yarran was a bad move. He just doesn't yet have the physique required for the intensity and physicality of finals footy. Spent a lot of time dancing around the contest.

Grigg looked like he thought he was still in the VFL. Why Setanta wasn't kept in to give us some height down back once it was clear that Bradshaw was going to play is beyond me.

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"The Wigg's big in 08!" - Chris Judd

It was lost in the coaches box in the last qtr. You could see the mindset from the players as soon as we ran out. Protect the lead, and go defensive. Lack of rotation in the midfield and bluddy Judd off the ground when Brisbane were making their move!

Yeah good on us for making finals etc etc but we were 5 GOALS UP and pissed the game away as soon as a bit of pressure was put on us. We reverted to that stupid over possession football in a final no less.

Really disappointed in that effort showed a complete lack of direction and heart on the field.

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I stole Sheedy's Gatorade...

quote="verbs"]Well, that's 2009.

23 weeks this year.

How many next year?[/quote]

52. Short-changed this year it seems. [/quote]

bugger, you beat me to it....[/quote]

Really? You must be quite slow then?[/quote]

dial up connection, it makes cam cloke look fast....

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my last one was rubbish

I do hope we only cull the minmum number of players and we don't go over board. We need depth to cover injuries and ensure all spots available we have multiple players competing for.

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Delulio is a member of TISM

Ratt ratsackk, ratt rattrap, rant, ramble ramble, ramble rant...!

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Just because I'm offended, doesn't mean I'm wrong.

Nah, the 22 from tonight should go, as well as 5 or 6 others. 27 picks at least.

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"I had to eat"

it was a general "you", not directed at you specifically. I was making the point, that just because we made top 8 this year, doesn't guarantee that we will make top 8 next year. Look at Hawks, Swans, Roos etc.... Next year our FIXTURE will be a lot harder.

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when you have eliminated the impossible, whatever remains, however improbable, must be the truth

Feelgood Hit of the Winter - GHRP-2, GHRP-6, CJC-1295, AOD-9604, Humanofort and Hexarelin

Great post in a night were there will be many over-emotional responses. Not enough mature heads and bodies to get us to the line this time, 5 goals is nothing is todays footy. Yes we should have kept on attacking and hopefully we will learn to keep the foot on the throat. Kreuzer, Gibbs, Murphy, AJ, Bower, Betts, Simpson, Russell, Hammer will all be the better for it. 206, Waite, Jamo, Hadley to come in.The Lions had 5 Premiership players out there tonight who stood up when it mattered, we had 1 premiership player and 2 others who played in a final 8 years ago.

Having said that if we cant find a better defensive coach than Montgomery in the off season then we are not trying hard enough.

Without getting too dramatic,
It's clear that our list is a work in progress.

- Edwards and Hartlett and Bannister should go - minimum.
I also think Bentley and Pfeiffer need to face reality.

- Bentick and Jacobs: I don't mind them, but if they are not in our plans maybe we should swap them for someone who is???

- Johnson: do we persist? Or are Ratts and Bomber man enough to admit they flowered up?

- Is Wiggins the best thing for our team for another season? Had some great marks tonight, but was atrocious last week

- Recruitment: Tall Forward, in-and-under midfielder, and a tall back if theres anything left. Am I off the mark? Is it really rocket science?

Lets re visit this thread in a few days when emotions are not running as high as now and we might find a lot of supporters will be pleased with the improvement we made this season. This one hurts but bring on 2010!

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Koperek.

That's much better, at least it's original!

Seven................

Seven chipmunks twirling on a branch, eating lots of sunflowers on my uncles ranch. You know that old children's tale from the sea?

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"If everyone is moving forward together, then success takes care of itself" - Henry Ford

That's right but not necessarily in that order.

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Just because I'm offended, doesn't mean I'm wrong.

Unacceptable being 5 goals up to let this game slip. You gotta grab opportunities and we failed when it mattered most. My 5 year old son was in hysterics at the end of that. Time to chop some front runners, Stevens and Scotland just to name a couple. Fancy having Judd sit on the bench when the game was in the balance. Unbelievable!

Dogs were there for the taking and who knows what could have happened in the prelim. I guess we'll never know.

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I'm back, after years in the wilderness!