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PostPosted: Fri Aug 28, 2009 7:56 pm 
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Interesting how we are bemoaning our kick outs and the speed we bring the ball into attack and then we read this from Neil Craig today

"The speed of the game is important because it will be a fast game, our defence will be tested to the max because Carlton, from the stats we have, are the best in the competition from going to the back 50 to their forward 50

http://sportal.com.au/afl-news-display/ ... -key-76789



Thats awesome

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PostPosted: Fri Aug 28, 2009 8:09 pm 
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Could be a new angle angle here...going by Keogh's excellent post, will this mean Ratts has failed if we don't win the flag this season? :eek: :grin:

As Megaman points out will the truce survive a loss :lol:


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PostPosted: Fri Aug 28, 2009 8:20 pm 
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Belisarius wrote:
Could be a new angle angle here...going by Keogh's excellent post, will this mean Ratts has failed if we don't win the flag this season? :eek: :grin:

As Megaman points out will the truce survive a loss :lol:


The suspense is building... :lol:

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PostPosted: Sat Aug 29, 2009 10:56 pm 
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Poor performance today...tactically we got reamed. Needs to improve next week as do the players to be honest. Hopefully we haven't decided that where we have got is enough. Wasted opportunities you always live to regret.

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PostPosted: Sat Aug 29, 2009 10:58 pm 
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How many pages will this thread reach before the game next week?

20? 30? 40?


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PostPosted: Sat Aug 29, 2009 11:03 pm 
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I wasn't posting to add pages....just to comment on the performance of BR and the boys and to lure Verbs back into the fold :lol: :lol: :lol: ....but go ahead....rack up the posts if you like.... :razz:

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PostPosted: Sun Aug 30, 2009 12:59 am 
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PostPosted: Sun Aug 30, 2009 5:16 am 
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I didn't realize I left the fold


Poor post, no sarcasm....pathetic effort verbs.... :razz:

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PostPosted: Sun Aug 30, 2009 7:48 am 
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Poor game all round today ... Ratts had one to forget ... but next week is another chance and the one that really matters.

13-9 and 7th is a thumbs up in my books and would have tajken it at the start of the year ... if we can snare a finals win WOW! now that would be a huge bonus!


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PostPosted: Sun Aug 30, 2009 9:29 am 
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Warning signs were evident early it was going to be a shoot out.

I guess Ratten was happy to have it go that way, cause he didn't do much to change it??

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PostPosted: Sun Aug 30, 2009 10:09 am 
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Juddy&theKruezers wrote:
Well well well...I bet all you sarcastic F$#@%^s who criticised this thread as being negative must be ashamed of yourselves right now... :razz: :grin: :thumbsup:


And I bet there are a few geese who have been bagging Ratten and his style, who are feeling very stupid.

How are you feeling?..... :grin:


Vindicated. Round 22 and.....
kick ins getting worse
still Fev conscious
Judd's career to be shortened if we can't give him some support
how the flower do we zone up from opposition kick ins. Coast to coast like a knife through butter.
chip chip all over again
centre corridor exposed. Maybe if we put a submission into the AFL that we want to build a bar and night club along the centre corridor, you might find some players actually hanging around the spine
inability to find space when the opposition find it at will
inability to protect goal side at centre bounces
handballing to those with an opposition player 1 metre away

I'm actually feeling shithouse as I went to the match believing we might win. But I came home and looked at who we've beaten over the last 10 weeks and who we've lost to and realised that apart from a sore and sorry Geelong and a second half against an ageing Sydney, our wins have been uninspiring. Even Nth beat PA last night. Our last two losses have been to well drilled and disciplined sides (Coll and Ess). You can say what you like about Ess. The bottom line is "they know how to beat us" Adelaide are close to the best drilled and efficient side in the league. They embarrased us last night.

Let's hope we can repeat our earlier performance this year against Bris next week. GO BLUES

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PostPosted: Sun Aug 30, 2009 10:18 am 
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99prelim wrote:
Adelaide are close to the best drilled and efficient side in the league.


Most definitely.

I don't get why the bipolar nature of some.

So many people here are so damn linear in their mindset and thinking. It's a surprise some can walk and breathe at the same time.

I don't think that round 22 was a match of any real circumstance if they were planning for the longer view, ie: finals and flags. If so, then yesterday's performance and plays have to be put into perspective.

99prelim wrote:
Let's hope we can repeat our earlier performance this year against Bris next week. GO BLUES


Ahem. Performances

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PostPosted: Sun Aug 30, 2009 10:25 am 
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I know that this week in training Ratts will be showing the boys tape of their efforts (or lack of) in the game last night.

What I also hope is shown to Ratts, is footage of the thousands upon thousands of disappointed and disillusioned Blues fans that were streaming out of the ground at three quarter time last night.

His inability to stop the rot last night, or make any effective positional changes merely highlights that he is a one trick pony who does not know how to adapt his team to change when things are not going their way.

The kick in's (something that has been highlighted ALL season) were one again comedy hour, and down right embarassing.

And if I ever see Chris Johnson in a Blues jumper again.....I AM GOING TO SPEW UP!!!

Please bring in Laidley; if only to keep Ratten on his toes.

PS. Defensive AND Midfield coaches should be shown the door at season's end....THAT WAS PATHETIC.


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PostPosted: Sun Aug 30, 2009 10:36 am 
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Carltn70 wrote:
His inability to stop the rot last night, or make any effective positional changes merely highlights that he is a one trick pony who does not know how to adapt his team to change when things are not going their way.


Spoken like a true keyboard warrior.

Tell us, oh wise one, what you would have done?

Is this the same "one trick pony" who coached his team to come back from 4 goals down against Hawthorn only for a poster to stop us winning the match? Or the team who came back from behind against Geelong? Or Came back from 5 goals down to get within 2 goals of St Kilda, and had them more than worried?

People like using cheap easy phrases the way Camporeale liked cheap easy possessions. And they're about as good.

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PostPosted: Sun Aug 30, 2009 10:39 am 
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Kaptain Kouta wrote:
Carltn70 wrote:
His inability to stop the rot last night, or make any effective positional changes merely highlights that he is a one trick pony who does not know how to adapt his team to change when things are not going their way.


Spoken like a true keyboard warrior.

Tell us, oh wise one, what you would have done?

Is this the same "one trick pony" who coached his team to come back from 4 goals down against Hawthorn only for a poster to stop us winning the match? Or the team who came back from behind against Geelong? Or Came back from 5 goals down to get within 2 goals of St Kilda, and had them more than worried?

People like using cheap easy phrases the way Camporeale liked cheap easy possessions. And they're about as good.


That wasnt a good coaching performance by Ratten again.....
Craig had him for brekky.... again....

Craig adjusted to what we threw at Adelaide and we didnt readjust...

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PostPosted: Sun Aug 30, 2009 10:41 am 
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Synbad wrote:
Kaptain Kouta wrote:
Carltn70 wrote:
His inability to stop the rot last night, or make any effective positional changes merely highlights that he is a one trick pony who does not know how to adapt his team to change when things are not going their way.


Spoken like a true keyboard warrior.

Tell us, oh wise one, what you would have done?

Is this the same "one trick pony" who coached his team to come back from 4 goals down against Hawthorn only for a poster to stop us winning the match? Or the team who came back from behind against Geelong? Or Came back from 5 goals down to get within 2 goals of St Kilda, and had them more than worried?

People like using cheap easy phrases the way Camporeale liked cheap easy possessions. And they're about as good.


That wasnt a good coaching performance by Ratten again.....
Craig had him for brekky.... again....

Craig adjusted to what we threw at Adelaide and we didnt readjust...


If you're looking only to one single result, ie: Carlton v Adelaide.

If you're looking at the bigger picture, as I suspect Ratts and the MC were, then no.

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PostPosted: Sun Aug 30, 2009 10:44 am 
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huh?????

Adelaide re adjusted against us ... and we didnt when they did... thats what happened....

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PostPosted: Sun Aug 30, 2009 10:54 am 
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Kaptain Kouta wrote:
Carltn70 wrote:
His inability to stop the rot last night, or make any effective positional changes merely highlights that he is a one trick pony who does not know how to adapt his team to change when things are not going their way.


Spoken like a true keyboard warrior.

Tell us, oh wise one, what you would have done?

Is this the same "one trick pony" who coached his team to come back from 4 goals down against Hawthorn only for a poster to stop us winning the match? Or the team who came back from behind against Geelong? Or Came back from 5 goals down to get within 2 goals of St Kilda, and had them more than worried?

People like using cheap easy phrases the way Camporeale liked cheap easy possessions. And they're about as good.


Were you at the match KK?

If you were, you would have seen where Adelaide were running and the fact that they were going to Tippet at every opportunity. He was killing Thorton one-on one and Wiggins had no impact as the loose man in defence. They were crowding our forward line, lining up behind the ball and running through the centre at every bounce. Another point is they worked out (very early on) that out kick out strategy was to go long to Kruezer so they made sure he had two or more on him at every kick out.

I would have moved the Irishman onto Tippet body-on-body and have Thorton loose for the chop out. I would have shown Wiggins the bench and placed Scotland loose as our extra man in defence to stop the run through the middle. And would have changed the kick out strategy. And that's just for starters.

PS. I don't do this full-time and get paid the big bucks........but hey I'm just another keyboard warrior.....much like you.


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PostPosted: Sun Aug 30, 2009 10:55 am 
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Seems a tactic that has beat us for a few years now. The saints did it to us last year and it has rolled over this year.

You simply put a number of players in the back fiddy against fev. More often than not you will win it in the back fifty and when it looks like one of those times you all just spread hard. The Maggies even did it to us this year.

In the first fifteen we moved the ball past where we normally go to fev using handpass. That gave us loads of options inside fifty. We scored easily. We were also smashing them at contests in that 15 mins. Our forward pressure was great but we could all see that we would never be able to keep that up all game.

In the end we reverted back to kicking in long to fev and they were just too good rebounding.

They are a very good side and were very clean yesterday. Their ball handling was ten times better than us and their strength around the packs blew us away.

Thats the way i saw it anyway.


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PostPosted: Sun Aug 30, 2009 10:59 am 
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No defence can stop Tippett when your midfield isn't applying much pressure...we didn't even work that hard forward of the stoppage let alone working defensively.

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