... and coach , assistant coaches and development staff....


carry on....

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The only others that I can think of are O'Hailpin, Armfield and Jamison; 2 of which are injured.

Given that Jamo has been named 2 weeks in a row, it can't be him, which leaves Carlos and Armfield.

So, are you saying that it's Armfield? Or that Carlos' injury is a cover up?

I could understand Carlos getting vocal, but hey, he's an angry man!!! If Ratts is leaving him out because of a few things that may have come out of his mouth, he's not playing to win - WE NEED CARLOS!

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The turning of the tide, falling in behind
Pretending not to find, the questions in my mind
The shining of the day, the old familiar way
Follow the road where it leads
And all the way we will sing...

Quick question for anyone that knows or hasspoken to the players about it - what was with Didak and the monkey impression to Eddie just after the Pies kicked their last goal? dropped his head down and hung his arms down low like they were dragging on the ground. Eddie got fired up and certainly didn't seem to like it.

Was a deplorable performance

Coaching was poor but so was the effort from the players ... call it another bad night at the office

Too many times collingwood had numbers around the ball it looked like collingwood had 3 extra players on the ground around the contests

There where too many fumbles and we dropped handballs and marks ... skills and disposals where poor. why we didnt bring the 2nd half against the swans to the Pies match i have no idea .. why wasnt heath shaw tagged as he plays poorly when he has someone hanging off him cutting out the Pies drive.

It was almost like what the hawks did to the pies last week the pies applied the same pressure and made us look second rate.

We need to run hard create the extra man and pressure when we do this we play well.

I will still judge Ratts on if we are in the 8 or miss the eight and there are still 5 matches to go

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CFC TAC Squad everyone over 25 must be traded sounds like Loguns Run

Malthouse started coaching when he was 31...how dare he Dougie Hawkins was in his mid 20s at the time! Why didn't Malthouse wait until he was 78 until he stated coaching? The BASTARD!

Mick is a very good coach.

It's no disgrace to be outcoached by the man who steared the Pies to an eighty point win over Geelong last year.

Malthouse outcoached Knights the last time they met.

Eade too...

It was the Pies night and they were on, but they're still no closer to a flag than Carlton.

Collingwood were a shit truck after half time.

The Cats, Dogs and Saints would have rolled right over the top of them.

Ratten has coached less than fifty games.

Carlton fell down because we didn't run hard enough and our good players didn't hit their targets.

I hate saying this, but Scotland shouldn't play for Carlton again.

The Blues should swab Scotland and see if he has the same disease as Stevens.

Russell ran harder and went in harder than Scotland.

Please bring in Robinson, Walker and Browne who at least have a crack and a go.

When they're ready...

Our players are still very young and developing.

If you take out Scotland, Fisher and Houlihan who won't be there in two years, our only experienced players of note would be Judd, Thornton, Carrazzo and Fevola.

No Waite and Walker who give us run and carry like Bower hurts us.

Our senior group doesn't compare favourably to the likes of St Kilda, Geelong, Footscray and even Collingwood.

We're pumping up Gibbs, Kreuzer, Bower, Murphy and Betts, but they're just 19, 20, 21, 22 and 23 years of age.

Hampson, Grigg, Joseph, Yarran and Austin need more time.

I hardly noticed Gibbs.

I thought Murphy was poor.

Murphy should be in the middle and not chasing kicks by chasing a handball receive off half back like Camporeale.

Or Stevens.

Not your night if Kreuzer couldn't even clunk a mark.

Thats the whole point there is no plan: No plan on kick outs. No plan on forward set ups. No plan at the selection table. The only person who had a plan at the club (pay off the debt, Get Swan & Get Judd) is no longer with us. What's the plan at board level? Who has a football background on the board? Whats the plan to get a connected president? Whats the plan to reduce board numbers?

http://www.afl.com.au/news/newsarticle/ ... fault.aspx

Sure our kicking was terrible but why doesn't he take any responsibility for the way we entered the fifty when our kicking was actually good?

There had to be some change to the way we entered the fifty but there wasn't!

Does he have any plan in place to beat teams with similar defensive structures in the future?

He seems able to identify what the opposition will do - mentioned during the week how Maxwell has been zoning very well.

IMO we have seen very little to suggest we can handle oppositions who have zoning defenders like Collingwood. Even last week we struggled until Richards was made more accountable.

He needs to take some responsibility...say something like 'perhaps we need to work on our disposal and decision making when entering the 50, especially when the opposition have numbers back in front of Fevola'.

In recent Collingwood games I don't think they've had loose men in front of Fev but they finally worked it out - shows how dumb they are as well, that it took them this long to realise they needed to play a couple loose in front of Fev. They also have the players capable of playing the zone off role.

It is personnel (lack of reliable key forwards) but also the coaching. Hopefully there is more effort made by the coaching staff but also at the draft table. Even that will be difficult with the draft situation and best player policy.

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pretty poor words there from ratten

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*(grow - fun - gah)

Yeah but whatabout your whataboutism.

what did he say???

"we didnt take our chances?"

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I'm sure Malthouse said "I AM SHIT" after last weeks game.

TRIPPERS!!!

I acknowledge that there are factors such as inexperience and depth/talent which lead to results like tonight but there needs to be some response for when the opposition zone back like they did tonight.

Will be interesting when we play Geelong in a couple of weeks - Scarlett on Fev and then Harley, Milburn and Mackie dropping in front of him. He'll have four opponents.

Even against North they might have Pratt/Gibson/Thompson dropping in front of him.

Until Kreuzer can more consistently mark it inside 50 we'll have games like tonight. He's still extremely inexperienced and even then he's a ruckman/midfielder - not sure we can expect him to be a forward option every week as he might lack a little bit of pace to play a lead up role.

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"You are being watched. The government has a secret system. A machine that spies on you every hour of every day. I know because I built it." - Finch

ordinary display tonight.... nothing more to say really. A lesson in how to work for one another and work hard. I wonder if anything was learnt?

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Fat, drunk, and stupid is no way to go through life, son.

If we are to make finals and i still think we will, how far are we going to go? We have played two disgraceful games, against our biggest rivals, on the biggest stage you can get in a home and away season. I hope we don't embarrass ourselves when we do make the finals, by cracking under the pressure and expectation of finals.

Whilst it would suck at the time, I doubt it would be the worst thing ever in the world.

Young teams often get embarrased in finals. Hopefully we win won (if we make them).

Whatever happens you hope the players are driven by the inevitable disappointment to work even harder to improve their games.

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"You are being watched. The government has a secret system. A machine that spies on you every hour of every day. I know because I built it." - Finch

Lets not get ahead of ourselves...one week at a time....

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Evidently we're very slow learners so little chance of that.

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We are on our way back...

Young players like the Collingwood players??

Ummmm look.. its just no good sugar coating poor coaching... shitchouse tactics and players who are not being developed.

We either have the right people there or we dont....

You cannot say by looking at our players that theyre improving tactically ... that their deficiencies are improving... or that theyre coming along...

Joey Anderson would be a super player at collingwood... they have players like him doing playing great roles...

We just cant seem to bring them along...

... and the side is always looking lost in the heat of a battle...

but sure... we can kick back and watch the last half of last weeks game...... dont watch the first half mind you....

In my opinion we have the raw talent... what we dont have is the key to extract the best out of them....

our kids are treading water... or sinking.... and our senior players are struggling...

so the questions need to be asked................

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Anderson would be chellenging for the Brownlow! FTW!

Not if he played for Fremantle, Richmond or Sydney though.