To carry on about the an advertising/marketing slogan and relate it to on-field performance shows how intellectually crippled this constant line of argument is.

Over the past 7 seasons of this club serving up tripe on the football field we have managed a win/loss ratio against Essendon* and Collingwood far in excess of our actual win/loss ratio - what did these wins mean in the context of list development - nothing except the short term satisfaction of a win against the traditional enemy.

Just as Essendon*'s win will mean nothing to the long term development of their list - Essendon*'s total pre-season focus of trying to win this game will be shown in the long run will be seen to be just a mentally flawed as the argument about our marketing slogan this year.

I take far more out of this 4 point loss against Essendon* which was fabricated by the performance of a few over 30 year old players playing out their last hurrahs.

We played poorly, lacked intensity, had a couple of selection mistakes and a reactive coaches box and lost by 4 points.

Once again if a few trollsters want to play amongst the turnips and gain some satisfaction with the "I told you sos" - thats their problem.

wow man you need to get a life or a hobby man.

you'd think me being alone in a hotel room in sydney waiting for my missus to fly in would go to such lengths to occupy my time!!!!

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It had nothing to do with our performance, but it's a shit slogan. It's like "we're Carlton, flower the rest" when you've won 8 games in 44. You do the work, get the result and then tell people about it, that's the way it works. They'll know we're coming when they're wiping it out of their eye, until then it's just something that the players have to live up to when they're still getting their shit together.

best slogan we've ever had, it's got people talking, it's got memberships up and it's true!

Not a patch on the genius behind WE ARE THE NAVY BLUES

Essendon* cheated, simple as that

Played golf on Monday and unfortunately teamed up with an Essendon* supporter.
Needless to say the first words he muttered to me when he found out I was a Carlton supporter where ...
"They know you came early".

look what these flower put in the paper:

http://i217.photobucket.com/albums/cc103/Chodders81/EssFail.jpg