I suppose you don't have a problem with the perception that Sticks is sitting in the coaches box with some of his best mates whilst being Club President? I don't, but I also did not have a problem with what Eddie said on Thursday night.

Oh in addtion to my previous post...



It really depends on the subject matter. On the topic of Wallace being sacked, let’s imagine Eddie said, “looks fellas, everyone knows I am the president of Collingwood, therefore it’s not really fair game for me to comment on how Richmond appoints their coaching staff. I have my opinion, but its’ proably best if I keep it to myself.”

Rather than being criticised for being gutless, I expect he would have been praised for taking a responsible and understandable stance.

Instead, he chased the headlines by creating a fire that didn’t need any input from him. His comments were totally inappropriate.

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Perception of that situation with Sticks in the Box is that the President doesn't trust his Coach!

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Actually, I did, and have had an issue in the past with Sticks being both a board member and on the match committee.

However, on the scale of things, Sticks in the coaches box last week was a minor issue when compared to Eddie's comments.

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He chased a headline because apart from his Presidency of the Filth he no longer is relevant and that would be killing him.

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ZING!

I would tend to agree.

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The Terry Wallace fire was created last year and it was not by Eddie, the fire is soley Terry's doing and nobody elses. The Richmond players performance on Thursday just made it hotter and that was the only thing they produced that was close to hot. Eddie just said what most people were thinking.

If we got flogged by 83 points the perception of Sticks sitting in the box with his mate might not have been such a minor issue. Just like Eddie opening his mouth, there is an opportunity for some journo to make it an issue at the right time.

You're probably right. I just think Eddie was the wrong person to say it, that's all.

To be honest, I'm not all that fussed by it, because I stopped taking Eddie seriously years ago, but I can't understand why the pro-Eddie crowd cannot understand the reasons why his comments have attracted the criticism they have.

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"and at the end of the day, we're all mates"

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Congratulations CK95

As a President of a Football club he knows full bloody well that a comment like he made would destablise the club and bring unwanted attention to said club and him and at the end of the day if it brings attention to Eddie, then that's all that matters.

He did miss out on 5 Gold Logies after all. Now it's time to get back into the limelight.

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+1

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I really can't see Eddies detractors praising him for anything. Thats where perception really comes into it.

Your other points do make sense. Even when he's commentating and acting as an employee of SEN, the perception is that he's still Collingwood President....even though that isn't his role.

The fault in that case, however, lies with those that are unable to split his roles in their own mind

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That happens mostly because Eddie himself made a conscious effort to fuse the two. he used that to his advantage when it suited him, now that it's the overwhelming public perception, he can't complain that it's not fair to him to be perceived as such.

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Living outside of the football saturation central that is known as Melbourne, the only actual criticism I have seen is a bit on Offisders on ABC TV on Sunday morning and (IIRC) they touched on it briefly on Monday’s episode of On the couch. Caro, on Offsiders, was the most criticial of Eddie, and I do think she would have praised Eddie if he chose not to comment. Apart from that, though, you’re probably right. That’s not perception, however, that’s just sheer bloody mindedness. Something else Eddie knows a bit about, haha.



He is working for SEN remember.

Ordinarily, I would agree with you, but Eddie seems to go to extraordinary lenghts to put his club first (which in itself is an admirable trait), that he has to expect to always be seen as Collingwood Pres, regardless of the role he takes. That won’t change until either he or the club works out that they are now probably better off without him.

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..ok, here's a few of my non-sensical thoughts on alla dis..

.. ..firstly, even when bein' a media man Eddie is always club Pres.. ..there's nothing wrong with a club pres making comments (Kennet does it now, elliot and gutnick used to in the past).. ..the only shame about Eddie is his backtracking.. ..say what he wants, and stick by it.. ..no weasling out of it.. ..no matter what he does/says, will always reflect back on him as club pres.. ..if he comments on other clubs, he can expect some counter-comment.. ..again, nothing wrong with it.. ..i like a bit of spice in the media box..

..as for Sticks in the coach box, we all understand he's a front for Pratt, the 'power behind the throne'.. ..and most of us are happy with that yeah..?..

..the only real conflict of intrest i've ever been filthy about was collins and our tesltra dome shafting..

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So how about Ratts and that new show ey?

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