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PostPosted: Wed Apr 01, 2009 8:45 am 
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Does Fat Ed commentate on Filth games at all on SEN as it would be hard for him to wear his journo hate of they got belted and he was speculating about MM being under the pump.

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I guess he could sit and do an exclusive "one-on-one" interview: Eddie the media hack meets Eddie the Pres.
He'd love that, would take over the Werribee shit farm as the largest in Victoria for a few moments in time.

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And as a media person, if Collingwood lose their next 2, will he make any comments about Malthouse? If not, why not?


Because he will be answering the questions and not asking them.


So he should be neglecting his media job? If it comes to that, he will have to make a choice of which means more to him. And then he should make that call, and head down that path from then on, and walk away from the other. It's reasonable to say he can swap to the other, but again, he has to swap entirely.

I guess he could sit and do an exclusive "one-on-one" interview: Eddie the media hack meets Eddie the Pres.


For me if it is quite simple if he is working on SEN he is Eddie the journo. As soon as he walks out the box he is Eddie the president of the Collingwood F.C. There are a lot of people who wear two hats or more in football. How many football club Presidents sit in the coaches box each week?


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woof wrote:
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And as a media person, if Collingwood lose their next 2, will he make any comments about Malthouse? If not, why not?


Because he will be answering the questions and not asking them.


So he should be neglecting his media job? If it comes to that, he will have to make a choice of which means more to him. And then he should make that call, and head down that path from then on, and walk away from the other. It's reasonable to say he can swap to the other, but again, he has to swap entirely.

I guess he could sit and do an exclusive "one-on-one" interview: Eddie the media hack meets Eddie the Pres.


For me if it is quite simple if he is working on SEN he is Eddie the journo. As soon as he walks out the box he is Eddie the president of the Collingwood F.C. There are a lot of people who wear two hats or more in football. How many football club Presidents sit in the coaches box each week?


And if someone rings him and he mouths off about another team or Club?

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You are seriously kidding yourself if you think Eddie wears only ONE hat at a time.

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PostPosted: Wed Apr 01, 2009 12:01 pm 
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You are seriously kidding yourself if you think Eddie wears only ONE hat at a time.


EXACTLY!

But he gets away with claiming that he does. That's where the media are failing in their role.

So when he claims that he made comments about Richmond, then backpedalled, claiming he was making the comments "with his media hat on", he should be taken to task for that. It's a cop-out by him. Either he believes his comments, and should stand by them no matter which "hat" he was wearing at the time, or he should shut his ugly fat cakehole.

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For anyone disputing the fact that Eddie wears mulitple hats, just throw your minds back to the Footy Show days when he was President and how many flowering sponsors they picked up as a result of his lead role on the Footy Show.

Eddie = One Hat At A Time = :garthp:

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PostPosted: Wed Apr 01, 2009 12:09 pm 
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Kaptain Kouta wrote:
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You are seriously kidding yourself if you think Eddie wears only ONE hat at a time.


EXACTLY!

But he gets away with claiming that he does. That's where the media are failing in their role.

So when he claims that he made comments about Richmond, then backpedalled, claiming he was making the comments "with his media hat on", he should be taken to task for that. It's a cop-out by him. Either he believes his comments, and should stand by them no matter which "hat" he was wearing at the time, or he should shut his ugly fat cakehole.



Actually, re-reading what I wrote...Eddie should just shut his fat, ugly cakehole, full stop.

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PostPosted: Wed Apr 01, 2009 12:23 pm 
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Kaptain Kouta wrote:
DownUnderChick wrote:
You are seriously kidding yourself if you think Eddie wears only ONE hat at a time.


EXACTLY!

But he gets away with claiming that he does. That's where the media are failing in their role.

So when he claims that he made comments about Richmond, then backpedalled, claiming he was making the comments "with his media hat on", he should be taken to task for that. It's a cop-out by him. Either he believes his comments, and should stand by them no matter which "hat" he was wearing at the time, or he should shut his ugly fat cakehole.


So which hat is Sticks wearing when he is in the coaches box? I don't have a problem with Sticks being in the box but like Eddie he has two roles:

A/ Being a football club President
B/ Having the vast football experience to sometimes provide input on things that are happening on the ground.
As far as I am concerned when he takes a seat in the coaches box he is no longer Sticks the Club President, he is Sticks the past player who can add something to the coaching staff.


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PostPosted: Wed Apr 01, 2009 12:31 pm 
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woof wrote:
Kaptain Kouta wrote:
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You are seriously kidding yourself if you think Eddie wears only ONE hat at a time.


EXACTLY!

But he gets away with claiming that he does. That's where the media are failing in their role.

So when he claims that he made comments about Richmond, then backpedalled, claiming he was making the comments "with his media hat on", he should be taken to task for that. It's a cop-out by him. Either he believes his comments, and should stand by them no matter which "hat" he was wearing at the time, or he should shut his ugly fat cakehole.


So which hat is Sticks wearing when he is in the coaches box? I don't have a problem with Sticks being in the box but like Eddie he has two roles:

A/ Being a football club President
B/ Having the vast football experience to sometimes provide input on things that are happening on the ground.
As far as I am concerned when he takes a seat in the coaches box he is no longer Sticks the Club President, he is Sticks the past player who can add something to the coaching staff.


Excellent point, however in his other role in the box, he's not expected to make public comment on other clubs, and if he did, I'd be very disappointed and expect he is "counselled" about it by Coutts and the Board.

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Kaptain Kouta wrote:
woof wrote:
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DownUnderChick wrote:
You are seriously kidding yourself if you think Eddie wears only ONE hat at a time.


EXACTLY!

But he gets away with claiming that he does. That's where the media are failing in their role.

So when he claims that he made comments about Richmond, then backpedalled, claiming he was making the comments "with his media hat on", he should be taken to task for that. It's a cop-out by him. Either he believes his comments, and should stand by them no matter which "hat" he was wearing at the time, or he should shut his ugly fat cakehole.


So which hat is Sticks wearing when he is in the coaches box? I don't have a problem with Sticks being in the box but like Eddie he has two roles:

A/ Being a football club President
B/ Having the vast football experience to sometimes provide input on things that are happening on the ground.
As far as I am concerned when he takes a seat in the coaches box he is no longer Sticks the Club President, he is Sticks the past player who can add something to the coaching staff.


Excellent point, however in his other role in the box, he's not expected to make public comment on other clubs, and if he did, I'd be very disappointed and expect he is "counselled" about it by Coutts and the Board.


Touche!

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Kaptain Kouta wrote:
DownUnderChick wrote:
You are seriously kidding yourself if you think Eddie wears only ONE hat at a time.


EXACTLY!

But he gets away with claiming that he does. That's where the media are failing in their role.

So when he claims that he made comments about Richmond, then backpedalled, claiming he was making the comments "with his media hat on", he should be taken to task for that. It's a cop-out by him. Either he believes his comments, and should stand by them no matter which "hat" he was wearing at the time, or he should shut his ugly fat cakehole.


Did Eddie ever claim to be making those statements as Club President?

I really struggle to see how you can confuse them. He's commentating on SEN, being paid by SEN to be there and make comment...why would you think he's making them as Collingwood President?

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He was on SEN again this morning and explained again his comments on Wallace. What he said was that if they lose their next two games the media are going to be pushing for Wallace to be sacked and for Sheedy to take over. He didn't say thats what Richmond should do, just what the media will be talking about.

He made those comments as an SEN employee, not as Collingwood President.


Yes, but conflicts of interest are all about perception. Furthermore, Eddie rarely does anything to alleviate the COI problem.

If he was fair dinkum about his commentating role he would say that, as Collingwood President, it would not be fair or reasonable for him to comment on the coaching situation at another club and then move on to the next topic. For a person of his supposed intellect it should not be such a difficult concept for him to grasp. It is one thing to criticise a player, team or coaching move during a game, but another thing altogether to start a media witch hunt about sacking a coach at another club.

He gets cat bum lips and red in the face if anyone dares suggest how Collingwood should run their club, and yet, it is supposed to be okay for him to do likewise. Come off it Eddie! :roll:

Eddie is a wanker. It’s that simple. At some point he was a good thing for Collingwood and football. Now he is way past his use by date. And like Elliott and Sheedy before him, the longer he continues in his current role with Collingwood, the more he will become a laughing stock at how much of self made carciature he is.

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PostPosted: Wed Apr 01, 2009 12:58 pm 
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Kaptain Kouta wrote:
Excellent point, however in his other role in the box, he's not expected to make public comment on other clubs, and if he did, I'd be very disappointed and expect he is "counselled" about it by Coutts and the Board.


Sticks does not have to make any public comment on another club to be conflicted. Ultimately Sticks the President hires and fires our coaching staff? So when he has to make an assessment about the coaching staff's performance which hat is he wearing? He does have to change hats to do that. And again I don't have a problem with it but I also find it a bit rich that because Eddie does it, it is an issue.


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TruBlueBrad wrote:
Kaptain Kouta wrote:
DownUnderChick wrote:
You are seriously kidding yourself if you think Eddie wears only ONE hat at a time.


EXACTLY!

But he gets away with claiming that he does. That's where the media are failing in their role.

So when he claims that he made comments about Richmond, then backpedalled, claiming he was making the comments "with his media hat on", he should be taken to task for that. It's a cop-out by him. Either he believes his comments, and should stand by them no matter which "hat" he was wearing at the time, or he should shut his ugly fat cakehole.


Did Eddie ever claim to be making those statements as Club President?

I really struggle to see how you can confuse them. He's commentating on SEN, being paid by SEN to be there and make comment...why would you think he's making them as Collingwood President?


See Camel's response to your other post:
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If he was fair dinkum about his commentating role he would say that, as Collingwood President, it would not be fair or reasonable for him to comment on the coaching situation at another club and then move on to the next topic. For a person of his supposed intellect it should not be such a difficult concept for him to grasp. It is one thing to criticise a player, team or coaching move during a game, but another thing altogether to start a media witch hunt about sacking a coach at another club.

He gets cat bum lips and red in the face if anyone dares suggest how Collingwood should run their club, and yet, it is supposed to be okay for him to do likewise. Come off it Eddie! :roll:

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woof wrote:
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Excellent point, however in his other role in the box, he's not expected to make public comment on other clubs, and if he did, I'd be very disappointed and expect he is "counselled" about it by Coutts and the Board.


Sticks does not have to make any public comment on another club to be conflicted. Ultimately Sticks the President hires and fires our coaching staff? So when he has to make an assessment about the coaching staff's performance which hat is he wearing? He does have to change hats to do that. And again I don't have a problem with it but I also find it a bit rich that because Eddie does it, it is an issue.


In that case, it's a private issue between him and the matchday coaching panel, and the board. If that's been discussed and sorted, then there's no issue.

You're blurring the issue by comparing the 2 situations. They have nothing on common.

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He was on SEN again this morning and explained again his comments on Wallace. What he said was that if they lose their next two games the media are going to be pushing for Wallace to be sacked and for Sheedy to take over. He didn't say thats what Richmond should do, just what the media will be talking about.

He made those comments as an SEN employee, not as Collingwood President.


Yes, but conflicts of interest are all about perception. Furthermore, Eddie rarely does anything to alleviate the COI problem.

If he was fair dinkum about his commentating role he would say that, as Collingwood President, it would not be fair or reasonable for him to comment on the coaching situation at another club and then move on to the next topic. For a person of his supposed intellect it should not be such a difficult concept for him to grasp. It is one thing to criticise a player, team or coaching move during a game, but another thing altogether to start a media witch hunt about sacking a coach at another club.

He gets cat bum lips and red in the face if anyone dares suggest how Collingwood should run their club, and yet, it is supposed to be okay for him to do likewise. Come off it Eddie! :roll:

Eddie is a wanker. It’s that simple. At some point he was a good thing for Collingwood and football. Now he is way past his use by date. And like Elliott and Sheedy before him, the longer he continues in his current role with Collingwood, the more he will become a laughing stock at how much of self made carciature he is.


Well you may as well ban anyone from the media having any involvement at club level then.

I can just imagine the outcry and claims of Eddie being gutless if he declined to comment on any issue.

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In that case, it's a private issue between him and the matchday coaching panel, and the board. If that's been discussed and sorted, then there's no issue.

You're blurring the issue by comparing the 2 situations. They have nothing on common.


It's the perception just ask Dick Pratt about it.


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Since when did Sticks start making decisions about the future of the club? :yikes:

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TruBlueBrad wrote:
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He was on SEN again this morning and explained again his comments on Wallace. What he said was that if they lose their next two games the media are going to be pushing for Wallace to be sacked and for Sheedy to take over. He didn't say thats what Richmond should do, just what the media will be talking about.

He made those comments as an SEN employee, not as Collingwood President.


Yes, but conflicts of interest are all about perception. Furthermore, Eddie rarely does anything to alleviate the COI problem.

If he was fair dinkum about his commentating role he would say that, as Collingwood President, it would not be fair or reasonable for him to comment on the coaching situation at another club and then move on to the next topic. For a person of his supposed intellect it should not be such a difficult concept for him to grasp. It is one thing to criticise a player, team or coaching move during a game, but another thing altogether to start a media witch hunt about sacking a coach at another club.

He gets cat bum lips and red in the face if anyone dares suggest how Collingwood should run their club, and yet, it is supposed to be okay for him to do likewise. Come off it Eddie! :roll:

Eddie is a wanker. It’s that simple. At some point he was a good thing for Collingwood and football. Now he is way past his use by date. And like Elliott and Sheedy before him, the longer he continues in his current role with Collingwood, the more he will become a laughing stock at how much of self made carciature he is.


Well you may as well ban anyone from the media having any involvement at club level then.

I can just imagine the outcry and claims of Eddie being gutless if he declined to comment on any issue.


That's not what I said, and you know it. :razz:

The point is Eddie's comments were deliberately inflammatory. At this point in time, Eddie is known, first and foremost, as the Collingwood President. Therefore, whether he likes it or not, anything he says will carry that extra burden.

It is no different to the expectation players are to behave themselves when they are in the public spotlight. Once a player accepts the “job” of a professional footballer and they hit the town with their mates they can no longer expect to be treated as a regular knock about bloke out for a good time. If they stuff up someone will notice and it will make news.

Of course, this doesn’t mean this public attitude or perception is right, but it is reality. You only have to look at the media saturation of recent times concerning Wayne Carey and Ben Cousins to see this is a simple fact of modern society.

So, when Eddie commentates a game of football, everyone is thinking he’s the Collingwood Pres and they watch his comments more closely than they would any other commentator. Sure, we know who most commentators support, but being a rank and file supporter is far, far removed from being a club president.

If Eddie shoots his mouth off about sacking a coach at another club, these comments are always going to interpreted as coming from that Collingwood President guy. It makes no difference who is paying his wage at the time, it is all about perception. In the past Eddie has asked his players to pull their heads in, it’s about time he did the same.

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