AGRO wrote:
The point I was making is that over the past 6 years the media and oppossing supporters have gleefully and joyfully sunk the size 16 steel cap boots in whilst we were down (bad analogy at this point but thats all I got

) - over the past 12 months the good news stories have flowed thick and fast and fast and we have all been thankful for the good news -
but at any point there has been a minor slip up or for a chance for the media and talkback ferals to come back at us they have taken up the cudgels with with great enthusiasm.Any way the upshot of all this is "They know we're coming" - and notwithstanding a dildo, ACCC investigation and a kick up the clacker - there is not a damn thing that the media and the AFL and the other 15 clubs can do about it.

Isn't that what we want? It's either that or irrelevance, eg Melbourne. All this makes #17 that much sweeter
The negative stories have come about because individuals at the club have demonstrated almost breathtaking stupidity. Setanta should be publically humiliated for what he did, just like Fev was this time last year. Setanta is not a 'special case'. He's a bloke who has proven definitively that he can't be relied upon when the heat is on to keep his head. In a footballing sense, I don't care what personal issues, background, mentality he's got. He's wearing the Carlton jumper on the field and if he can't behave accordingly he shouldn't be playing. I personally would have sacked him, but I don't have play with him, and trust him on the field - so if the playing group want him back so be it.