There seems to be a lot of people running around here screaming "I'm a teapot, I'm a teapot".

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We are Carlton, @#$%&! the rest !!!!!!

Cousins has never kicked a teammate in a practice match, unless you can prove otherwise.

Furthermore, the only way Cousins has EVER hurt a Carlton player is through playing brlliant football.

*snip - no personal attacks please, implied or otherwise*

You obviously dont get out much....

On first impressions it looked terrible... (yes i was there sitting not too far from where it happened.... )

.. even so the kick looked like a poke to me...

Seeing it again.... none of the punches connected that well.. and the kick was bugger all.

Does it excuse it???

No it doesnt.....

But geez.... Hall is a trained boxer with a pretty good Western suburbs pedigree and people claiming he can box after footy for a career.

Setanta is a guy who lashed out.

We dont know what happened and why he did it....

... could have been squirrel gripped... but i very much doubt there was nothing that made him react....(even though you shouldnt react)

But to put that up there with Halls is stupid.. and obviously you have no idea about what a 110 kg boxer can do to someone compared to someone ,,,,

Im pretty sure Cloke was ok to acceopt the apology...

Whoever Hall hit wasnt....

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can't see the incident til i get back from work. Christ what a week ... hurlers on strike, lost 5% pay on government levy, cork footballers to join hurlers if situation isn't sorted after their league matches & now this. Setanta needed an exceptional pre season & NAb cup games to get him back up the precking order. Now he may have hit the final nail in his coffin. Very disappointed!!

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Agree totally Synbad

Can't believe all the drama queens, last year many on here wanted Fev gone for flowering pissing on a window and now the same people love Fev. People are so quick to over react on situations. I've heard things like "King Hit" Do you know what a King Hit is ????? If you call that a King Hit go put on a skirt. The kick and the blow was bad - but for flower sake people settle down.

Some of you are carrying on more than what the players are - relax. Yes, what Carlos did was wrong and deserves a punishment - but I bet the same people bagging him would slap him on the back if he was to play again and play well.

Just like many on here now rate Grigg and Bower, after their first year in the AFL many were slagging them and degrading them - now they have jumped on board - Fairweather Supporters!!

Many two faced supporters on this site. If you only knew half of what some of our players that won us flags in the 70's and 80' got up to! And don't tell me that was many years ago - because at the end of the day they were Carlton listed players just like Carlos is.

I agree what he did was wrong but I will not turn my back on him whilst he is a listed Carlton Player.

That was many years ago.

It was a Coke , no big deal.

I agree, it's the contempt he showed that will be the hardest to forget. It's all up to the players now, they can make the fish bigger than life if they choose too...

If he survives, the club will wait for something big to capture the headlines before they announce his return.

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Nah but Kerr punched the crap out of Cousins and sent him hurling down stairs where he broke his arm in a nightclub.

Didn't seem to hurt their relationship, on or off the field

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We are Carlton, @#$%&! the rest !!!!!!

Has Setanta lost the respect of the other players? If the answer is yes, then the next step is obvious.

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I've seen the incident several times now....it was NOT a toe poke.

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What was it then?

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Social fracas happen all the time in footy clubs and outside footy clubs, and more than not end up laughing points in the future. Could well happen here too, but it's slim at this point in time because it happened on the footy field. From all accounts Grigg, Fevola, Stevens, Simpson, Waite and Thornton all were ropeable at the time, and that's just a start.

White trash call them "love taps".

Thortnton appears ropeable 80% of the time he's on the field. Usually because he appears to be blaming others for his mistakes, a la Soccer goalies.

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A blatant kick - no need to grade it.

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Guess what? A strike is a strike whether your Ali or Peter Pan. The action was deliberate so was Hall's, Carlos snapped so did Hall. Who cares what instigated the actions, their are plenty of other actions he could of taken.

As for kicking I didn't see Hall go over to Staker and kick him while down no matter how hard it was. Kicking a man while he is down is a cowards act.

The MC and LG suspended him indefinately does that not tell you something about the seriousness of the incident and how it is viewed within the club?

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I think you misunderstand why I used the term toe-poke.

I was using it to describe the style of kick, not the severity. It was a toe-poke style kick up Cam's clacker.

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i can't believe people on here arguing that what santy did was not so bad because he didn't make good contact or just "toe poked" cloke.


IT'S THE @#$%&! PRINCIPLE OF THE THING.

the left hand round house looked like a pretty decent swing to me, even if it didn't connect that well.

1. YOU DON'T HIT A TEAM MATE
2. YOU NEVER KICK SOMEONE WHEN THEY ARE DOWN, twe poke or not.

there is a reason why kicking someone is labeled as assault with a deadly weapon.

if the squad can forgive him then great, they are bigger men than me.

for me it's @#$%&! inexcusable.

personally i hope we see the back of him and then he's not our problem.

give him all the support he needs, counciling/anger management whatever, but not as a listed player anymore.

real shame as i loved santy, but sorry mate time to go.

Seems a few people are yet to see the vision. Make up your own minds...

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Agree with you there gez. The act itself is what has us screaming, not the way in which the fist or toe was positioned on impact. The attack and humiliation of a teammate is what we're seeing here.

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