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I agree Lily of laguna. I have a feeling Fev is on the move and he only has himself to blame if that is the case. I'd hate to lose him but I trust the "pratt pack".


I think he stated pretty clearly on MMM and at the NAB function that he's staying. Terms will work themselves out.


I don't think Fev has a say. If the club want him they will sign him, if the club see better opportuntites by trading him they will do it.

Fev can think he is in control, but he isn't.


Exactly right. Unless he wants to play for Melbourne, Freo or WCE of course. In which case he's totally in control of spending his entire career playing for also-ran teams.


The near million bucks a year he could put as his price and get would be terrific compensation as a worst case senario though. Unlikely to come to that though.


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lily of laguna wrote:
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I agree Lily of laguna. I have a feeling Fev is on the move and he only has himself to blame if that is the case. I'd hate to lose him but I trust the "pratt pack".


I think he stated pretty clearly on MMM and at the NAB function that he's staying. Terms will work themselves out.


I don't think Fev has a say. If the club want him they will sign him, if the club see better opportuntites by trading him they will do it.

Fev can think he is in control, but he isn't.

Talks officially on hold:



http://carltonfc.com.au/tabid/4311/Defa ... wsid=63807


Yeah, I think Fev does want to stay but this prolonged negotiation (not blaming Fev entirely) has not done him any favours.

It makes me think the club are now keen to see what will be on offer come trade time. Swann has stated that we have room to move for a big name to come to the club and maybe Fev will be part of that or take a bit less to help out.

Anyway I dont think Fev is now in a position to call the shots and thankfully Swann and co. have the matter in hand. :)
When your a gun player and out of contract you always hold the whip hand.


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Make as well add one more post while I'm here.........No.1000 for Jim. Only took me 3 years!!!

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jim wrote:
lily of laguna wrote:
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I agree Lily of laguna. I have a feeling Fev is on the move and he only has himself to blame if that is the case. I'd hate to lose him but I trust the "pratt pack".


I think he stated pretty clearly on MMM and at the NAB function that he's staying. Terms will work themselves out.


I don't think Fev has a say. If the club want him they will sign him, if the club see better opportuntites by trading him they will do it.

Fev can think he is in control, but he isn't.

Talks officially on hold:



http://carltonfc.com.au/tabid/4311/Defa ... wsid=63807


Yeah, I think Fev does want to stay but this prolonged negotiation (not blaming Fev entirely) has not done him any favours.

It makes me think the club are now keen to see what will be on offer come trade time. Swann has stated that we have room to move for a big name to come to the club and maybe Fev will be part of that or take a bit less to help out.

Anyway I dont think Fev is now in a position to call the shots and thankfully Swann and co. have the matter in hand. :)
When your a gun player and out of contract you always hold the whip hand.


Normally I would agree with you but I do believe Fev would rather stay than move which lessens his hold on things, and Fev being Fev may not hold as much appeal as a gun player with a good track record.

Still I am just speculating here and I think if he and the club want him to be here then they really should come to an agreement sooner than later.

It strikes me as odd and to suggest that they just put it to rest until seasons end to concentrate on the footy is a bit perplexing.

Well done on 1000 post btw


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lily of laguna wrote:
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lily of laguna wrote:
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jim wrote:
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I agree Lily of laguna. I have a feeling Fev is on the move and he only has himself to blame if that is the case. I'd hate to lose him but I trust the "pratt pack".


I think he stated pretty clearly on MMM and at the NAB function that he's staying. Terms will work themselves out.


I don't think Fev has a say. If the club want him they will sign him, if the club see better opportuntites by trading him they will do it.

Fev can think he is in control, but he isn't.

Talks officially on hold:



http://carltonfc.com.au/tabid/4311/Defa ... wsid=63807


Yeah, I think Fev does want to stay but this prolonged negotiation (not blaming Fev entirely) has not done him any favours.

It makes me think the club are now keen to see what will be on offer come trade time. Swann has stated that we have room to move for a big name to come to the club and maybe Fev will be part of that or take a bit less to help out.

Anyway I dont think Fev is now in a position to call the shots and thankfully Swann and co. have the matter in hand. :)
When your a gun player and out of contract you always hold the whip hand.


Normally I would agree with you but I do believe Fev would rather stay than move which lessens his hold on things, and Fev being Fev may not hold as much appeal as a gun player with a good track record.

Still I am just speculating here and I think if he and the club want him to be here then they really should come to an agreement sooner than later.

It strikes me as odd and to suggest that they just put it to rest until seasons end to concentrate on the footy is a bit perplexing.

Well done on 1000 post btw


Thanks for that.

His management can use the PSD as a bargaining tool and allows then to play more hard ball even if bluffing. Out of 15 clubs someone would take him at his price certainly. His management would certainly push that point too. Simply good negotiation. He'll stay he wants too. Just a matter of who can hold their nerve.

We talk Fev here but alot is his management. Wonder if he would've signed by now if he was running his own affairs? 98% of the time we hammer the management as being parasites.


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jim wrote:

His management can use the PSD as a bargaining tool and allows then to play more hard ball even if bluffing. Out of 15 clubs someone would take him at his price certainly. His management would certainly push that point too. Simply good negotiation. He'll stay he wants too. Just a matter of who can hold their nerve.

We talk Fev here but alot is his management. Wonder if he would've signed by now if he was running his own affairs? 98% of the time we hammer the management as being parasites.


He's damaged his own public image with his off field antics and on field dummyspitting displays. That will be an issue if he wants to high price himself for the psd.
He's currently being shown who's boss and won't be going anywhere


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Not sure if I am seeing right, but Jim, I think you are stuck on 1001 posts forever.

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Oh, I just thought of something....

Remember when you guys refused to deal with Hamill's contract until the end of the season?

That worked out well for you. :wink:


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Oh, I just thought of something....

Remember when you guys refused to deal with Hamill's contract until the end of the season?

That worked out well for you. :wink:




Remember when you throw squillions of dollars and the rest of the known world at every player that comes out of contract and the only player you have ever managed to snag is Peter Eakins and a half cold bag of donuts. :roll:

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Oh, I just thought of something....

Remember when you guys refused to deal with Hamill's contract until the end of the season?

That worked out well for you. :wink:




Remember when you throw squillions of dollars and the rest of the known world at every player that comes out of contract and the only player you have ever managed to snag is Peter Eakins and a half cold bag of donuts. :roll:


Boomtish :-D

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AGRO wrote:
mandy wrote:
Oh, I just thought of something....

Remember when you guys refused to deal with Hamill's contract until the end of the season?

That worked out well for you. :wink:




Remember when you throw squillions of dollars and the rest of the known world at every player that comes out of contract and the only player you have ever managed to snag is Peter Eakins and a half cold bag of donuts. :roll:


Oooooooooooooooooh, are you in a stir? :P


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mandy wrote:
AGRO wrote:
mandy wrote:
Oh, I just thought of something....

Remember when you guys refused to deal with Hamill's contract until the end of the season?

That worked out well for you. :wink:




Remember when you throw squillions of dollars and the rest of the known world at every player that comes out of contract and the only player you have ever managed to snag is Peter Eakins and a half cold bag of donuts. :roll:


Oooooooooooooooooh, are you in a stir? :P


Boomtish :-D

Get a room guys.

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mandy wrote:
Oh, I just thought of something....

Remember when you guys refused to deal with Hamill's contract until the end of the season?

That worked out well for you. :wink:
Remember when you guys didn`t know whether or not to renew Rhys Shaw`s contract and decided to keep him?
That worked out well for you.


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AGRO wrote:
mandy wrote:
Oh, I just thought of something....

Remember when you guys refused to deal with Hamill's contract until the end of the season?

That worked out well for you. :wink:




Remember when you throw squillions of dollars and the rest of the known world at every player that comes out of contract and the only player you have ever managed to snag is Peter Eakins and a half cold bag of donuts. :roll:


They did manage to convince Chris Bryan that 3 years at the Carringbush is better than 2 years playing for the Bullants though!! :P

That was a big win for them, don't you agree Grumpy? :wink:

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The weekend's match was proof that

1) Fev can be an A grade player

2) that the forward line around him is largely C grade (ie wiggins and russell) with some B- or B grade for Fisher

No wonder Fevola has brain explosions, can't handle intense pressure -when there is no viable option to him.

I think keeping A grade players (such as Fev) is important. Once Kreuzer settles in there as a viable option you will have two A grade forwards and Betts -that is the making of a good forward line.


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BrizzyBlue wrote:
AGRO wrote:
mandy wrote:
Oh, I just thought of something....

Remember when you guys refused to deal with Hamill's contract until the end of the season?

That worked out well for you. :wink:




Remember when you throw squillions of dollars and the rest of the known world at every player that comes out of contract and the only player you have ever managed to snag is Peter Eakins and a half cold bag of donuts. :roll:



They did manage to convince Chris Bryan that 3 years at the Carringbush is better than 2 years playing for the Bullants though!! :P

I think we are being too hard on Collingwood, after all they did lure Shane Woewodin to their club. Surely that counts as a big fish.


That was a big win for them, don't you agree Grumpy? :wink:


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Carlton's decision to hold off talks till the end of the year has ensured that this thread will definatley achieve 100 pages.

Rumours of Fev going to Sydney have been brought up again. I guess the media have got nothing else to write about now since Fevs negotations have been put off till the end of the year.

For some reason i don't blame Fev for this circus, I believe Mrs Fev is playing a BIG part of whats going on here !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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Gary Lyon last night was hinting, quite vigorously as well, that Fev holds all the aces and the PSD would be a good place for him to end up in. I wonder why he would lean towards no resolution/trade for Fev. He has been speaking to him and all. :roll:


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Brendan Fevola is a gun! And his game on the weekend ( i thought ) was one of the best ' team games ' he has played. Tackled hard, chased hard, still kicked 5... BUT i applaud the Blues showing that NO PLAYER is bigger than the club and the club wont be held to ransom by anyone, even if your one of our best players.
We have a lot of young stars coming through, what do you all think they will do come contract renewal time if we let Fev's management call the shots?
The Carlton footy club is in good hands with Swann running the show.
fev will stay with us at the price WE want... and if he doesnt then he is dumber than i thought.

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mandy wrote:
Oh, I just thought of something....

Remember when you guys refused to deal with Hamill's contract until the end of the season?

That worked out well for you. :wink:


Remember you had Swanny....................... now we do? :wink:

Ahhhhh, good times. :lol:

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