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Andain wrote:
1 Geelong 22 18 4 0 2363 2009 72 117.6
4 Adelaide 22 18 4 0 2287 2032 72 112.5
2 Hawthorn 22 17 5 0 2375 2101 68 113.0
8 Collingwood 22 15 7 0 2296 2184 60 105.1
10 Bris Lions 22 14 8 0 2227 2171 56 102.5
6 Sydney 22 13 8 1 2147 2008 54 106.9
7 Nth Melb 22 13 8 1 2190 2132 54 102.7
9 Port Adel 22 13 9 0 2252 2192 52 102.7

3 W Bulldogs 22 12 9 1 2413 2175 50 110.9
5 St Kilda 22 11 11 0 2142 2180 44 98.2
12 Richmond 22 8 13 1 2201 2287 34 96.2
15 West Coast 22 7 15 0 1998 2297 28 86.9
14 Fremantle 22 6 16 0 2105 2238 24 94.0
11 Carlton 22 5 17 0 2151 2276 20 94.5
13 Essendon* 22 3 19 0 2126 2471 12 86.0
16 Melbourne 22 1 21 0 1967 2487 4 79.0

Funny how we all see things differently.

so by your prediction, carlton will win two more games by over 150 points each. Because thats the only way it can work when we lose the other 13 games and keep our percentage at 94.5.

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 #  Team         Pl  W   L    D  PF    PA    Pt  Perc 

 1  Geelong      22  21   1   0  2515  1857  84  135.4 
 2  Hawthorn     22  20   2   0  2515  1961  80  128.2 
 3  W Bulldogs   22  19   2   1  2515  2073  78  121.3 
 6  Sydney       22  13   8   1  2178  1977  54  110.1 
 4  Adelaide     22  13   9   0  2250  2069  52  108.7 
 5  St Kilda     22  12  10   0  2176  2146  48  101.3 
10  Bris Lions   22  12  10   0  2209  2189  48  100.9 
 9  Port Adel    22  11  11   0  2248  2196  44  102.3 
 
 7  Nth Melb     22  10  11   1  2154  2168  42   99.3 
 8  Collingwood  22  10  12   0  2242  2238  40  100.1 
11  Carlton      22  10  12   0  2197  2230  40   98.5 
12  Richmond     22   9  12   1  2244  2244  38  100.0 
13  Essendon*     22   7  15   0  2073  2524  28   82.1 
15  West Coast   22   3  19   0  1940  2355  12   82.3 
14  Fremantle    22   2  20   0  1929  2414   8   79.9 
16  Melbourne    22   2  20   0  1855  2599   8   71.3


I tried to go on a mixture of current form and gut feel... this is where I put us.... The top three teams scoring the same amount of points was a bit of a fluke - but I only tipped a few thrashings.

I've got The Doggies beating both Geelong and Hawthorn, but losing to North and Sydney (back-to-back).

At the other end, i've got Melbourne beating West Coast, but losing to Freo at Subi... Would be heart breaking for freo to watch Naitanui slip from their grasp, but he could still land there (6, 18, 30, 50, 80, 100 were the only available margins).

For us, my predictions have us:
- In the Top 8 after this week :-D
- Sitting 5th after next week :-D :-D :shock:
- Back to 8th after Round 10 :cry: :-D
- Back in the Top 8 after a Round 12 win over colonwood :-D :lol:
- Climbing to 6th after puttiong the Scum and Tiges to the sword :lol: :lol:
- Dropping to 10th after losing four on the trot to Aints, Swans, Doggies and Adelaide. FLOWERING FLOWERS! :evil: :cry:
- Sitting 8th at the end of Round 20 after bouncing back against Port and North :shock: :-D :what's the emoticon for shitting pants with anticipation:
- Dropping to 11th after losing the last two games to Brisbane at the Gabba and the rampaging Hawks

No more ladder predictors... I can't handle the emotional rollercoaster.

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 #  Team         Pl  W   L    D  PF    PA    Pt  Perc 

 1  Geelong      22  21   1   0  2515  1857  84  135.4 
 2  Hawthorn     22  20   2   0  2515  1961  80  128.2 
 3  W Bulldogs   22  19   2   1  2515  2073  78  121.3 
 6  Sydney       22  13   8   1  2178  1977  54  110.1 
 4  Adelaide     22  13   9   0  2250  2069  52  108.7 
 5  St Kilda     22  12  10   0  2176  2146  48  101.3 
10  Bris Lions   22  12  10   0  2209  2189  48  100.9 
 9  Port Adel    22  11  11   0  2248  2196  44  102.3 
 
 7  Nth Melb     22  10  11   1  2154  2168  42   99.3 
 8  Collingwood  22  10  12   0  2242  2238  40  100.1 
11  Carlton      22  10  12   0  2197  2230  40   98.5 
12  Richmond     22   9  12   1  2244  2244  38  100.0 
13  Essendon*     22   7  15   0  2073  2524  28   82.1 
15  West Coast   22   3  19   0  1940  2355  12   82.3 
14  Fremantle    22   2  20   0  1929  2414   8   79.9 
16  Melbourne    22   2  20   0  1855  2599   8   71.3


I tried to go on a mixture of current form and gut feel... this is where I put us.... The top three teams scoring the same amount of points was a bit of a fluke - but I only tipped a few thrashings.

I've got The Doggies beating both Geelong and Hawthorn, but losing to North and Sydney (back-to-back).

At the other end, i've got Melbourne beating West Coast, but losing to Freo at Subi... Would be heart breaking for freo to watch Naitanui slip from their grasp, but he could still land there (6, 18, 30, 50, 80, 100 were the only available margins).

For us, my predictions have us:
- In the Top 8 after this week :-D
- Sitting 5th after next week :-D :-D :shock:
- Back to 8th after Round 10 :cry: :-D
- Back in the Top 8 after a Round 12 win over colonwood :-D :lol:
- Climbing to 6th after puttiong the Scum and Tiges to the sword :lol: :lol:
- Dropping to 10th after losing four on the trot to Aints, Swans, Doggies and Adelaide. FLOWERING FLOWERS! :evil: :cry:
- Sitting 8th at the end of Round 20 after bouncing back against Port and North :shock: :-D :what's the emoticon for shitting pants with anticipation:
- Dropping to 11th after losing the last two games to Brisbane at the Gabba and the rampaging Hawks

No more ladder predictors... I can't handle the emotional rollercoaster.



But you forget the emotionally charged comeback against all odds in round 22 to get us into the 8!

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Habib wrote:
Andain wrote:
1 Geelong 22 18 4 0 2363 2009 72 117.6
4 Adelaide 22 18 4 0 2287 2032 72 112.5
2 Hawthorn 22 17 5 0 2375 2101 68 113.0
8 Collingwood 22 15 7 0 2296 2184 60 105.1
10 Bris Lions 22 14 8 0 2227 2171 56 102.5
6 Sydney 22 13 8 1 2147 2008 54 106.9
7 Nth Melb 22 13 8 1 2190 2132 54 102.7
9 Port Adel 22 13 9 0 2252 2192 52 102.7

3 W Bulldogs 22 12 9 1 2413 2175 50 110.9
5 St Kilda 22 11 11 0 2142 2180 44 98.2
12 Richmond 22 8 13 1 2201 2287 34 96.2
15 West Coast 22 7 15 0 1998 2297 28 86.9
14 Fremantle 22 6 16 0 2105 2238 24 94.0
11 Carlton 22 5 17 0 2151 2276 20 94.5
13 Essendon* 22 3 19 0 2126 2471 12 86.0
16 Melbourne 22 1 21 0 1967 2487 4 79.0

Funny how we all see things differently.

so by your prediction, carlton will win two more games by over 150 points each. Because thats the only way it can work when we lose the other 13 games and keep our percentage at 94.5.

After a while I didn't bother creating a margin for each game. Each win is around a 6 point win.


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http://afl.allthestats.com/misc/ladderpredict.php

I found this link, not sure if it is the same website as everyone else.
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Princes Park Whistler wrote:
Andain wrote:
1 Geelong 22 18 4 0 2363 2009 72 117.6
4 Adelaide 22 18 4 0 2287 2032 72 112.5
2 Hawthorn 22 17 5 0 2375 2101 68 113.0
8 Collingwood 22 15 7 0 2296 2184 60 105.1
10 Bris Lions 22 14 8 0 2227 2171 56 102.5
6 Sydney 22 13 8 1 2147 2008 54 106.9
7 Nth Melb 22 13 8 1 2190 2132 54 102.7
9 Port Adel 22 13 9 0 2252 2192 52 102.7

3 W Bulldogs 22 12 9 1 2413 2175 50 110.9
5 St Kilda 22 11 11 0 2142 2180 44 98.2
12 Richmond 22 8 13 1 2201 2287 34 96.2
15 West Coast 22 7 15 0 1998 2297 28 86.9
14 Fremantle 22 6 16 0 2105 2238 24 94.0
11 Carlton 22 5 17 0 2151 2276 20 94.5
13 Essendon* 22 3 19 0 2126 2471 12 86.0
16 Melbourne 22 1 21 0 1967 2487 4 79.0

Funny how we all see things differently.
Can guarantee it will not be 5 wins
who will we beat

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Team Pl W L D PF PA Pt Perc [/b]
Hawthorn 22 19 3 0 2524 1952 76 129.3
Geelong 22 19 3 0 2463 1909 76 129.0
Adelaide 22 17 5 0 2347 1972 68 119.0
W dogs 22 16 5 1 2473 2115 66 116.9
St Kilda 22 13 8 1 2175 2147 54 101.3
Bris Lions 22 11 11 0 2245 2153 44 104.2
Port Adel 22 10 12 0 2234 2210 40 101.0
Carlton 22 10 12 0 2159 2268 40 95.1
Sydney 22 9 12 1 2111 2044 38 103.2
Nth Melb 22 9 12 1 2094 2228 38 93.9
Cwood 22 9 13 0 2242 2238 36 100.1
W Coast 22 9 13 0 1927 2368 36 81.3
Richmond 22 8 13 1 2190 2298 34 95.3
Fremantle 22 8 13 1 2102 2241 34 93.7
Essendon* 22 3 19 0 2072 2525 12 82.0
Melbourne 22 3 19 0 1882 2572 12 73.1
conditions apply
who are geelong gonna lose to?
who are we gonna beat?
i'd swap dons with freo and maybe even melbourne
richmond with wce and hopefully coll

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was bored and had a crack

1 Geelong 22 21 1 0 2378 1994 84 119.2
2 Hawthorn 22 20 2 0 2405 2071 80 116.1
3 W Bulldogs 22 16 5 1 2437 2151 66 113.2
4 Adelaide 22 15 7 0 2232 2087 60 106.9
6 Sydney 22 13 8 1 2135 2020 54 105.6
5 St Kilda 22 12 10 0 2154 2168 48 99.3
10 Bris Lions 22 11 11 0 2203 2195 44 100.3
11 Carlton 22 11 11 0 2205 2222 44 99.2
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12 Richmond 22 9 12 1 2216 2272 38 97.5
8 Collingwood 22 9 13 0 2248 2232 36 100.7
9 Port Adel 22 9 13 0 2216 2228 36 99.4
7 Nth Melb 22 8 13 1 2130 2192 34 97.1
14 Fremantle 22 7 15 0 2099 2244 28 93.5
15 West Coast 22 7 15 0 2010 2285 28 87.9
16 Melbourne 22 4 18 0 2034 2420 16 84.0
13 Essendon* 22 2 20 0 2138 2459 8 86.9

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that was quite time consuming, here is what I ended up with:

Geelong 22 18 4 0 2533 1839 72 137.7
Adelaide 22 18 4 0 2388 1931 72 123.6
Hawthorn 22 18 4 0 2471 2005 72 123.2
Bris Lions 22 16 6 0 2317 2081 64 111.3
Sydney 22 14 7 1 2227 1928 58 115.5
W Bulldogs 22 13 8 1 2435 2153 54 113.0
Collingwood 22 12 10 0 2300 2180 48 105.5
Port Adel 22 12 10 0 2270 2174 48 104.4

St Kilda 22 12 10 0 2166 2156 48 100.4
Carlton 22 10 12 0 2175 2252 40 96.5
Nth Melb 22 9 12 1 2132 2190 38 97.3
Richmond 22 6 15 1 2099 2389 26 87.8
Fremantle 22 5 17 0 1990 2353 20 84.5
West Coast 22 4 18 0 1891 2404 16 78.6
Essendon* 22 4 18 0 2006 2591 16 77.4
Melbourne 22 3 19 0 1840 2614 12 70.3



Will be interesting to check on this as the seaon progresses

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If the median wins total is going to end up at 10, how do we feel about dropping games against the Tiges and Scum early on?

@#$%&! @#$%&! @#$%&! @#$%&! @#$%&!!!!!!

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We are heading for Picks 7 and 25 under most of these scenarios.

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2 Hawthorn 22 22 0 0 2417 2059 88 117.3
1 Geelong 22 19 3 0 2338 2034 76 114.9
4 Adelaide 22 14 8 0 2226 2093 56 106.3
3 W Bulldogs 22 13 8 1 2413 2175 54 110.9
6 Sydney 22 12 9 1 2123 2032 50 104.4
8 Collingwood 22 12 10 0 2278 2202 48 103.4
9 Port Adel 22 12 10 0 2234 2210 48 101.0
5 St Kilda 22 12 10 0 2154 2168 48 99.

11 Carlton 22 11 11 0 2205 2222 44 99.2
7 Nth Melb 22 10 11 1 2154 2168 42 99.3
10 Bris Lions 22 10 12 0 2197 2201 40 99.8
12 Richmond 22 9 12 1 2238 2250 38 99.4
13 Essendon* 22 7 15 0 2168 2429 28 89.2
14 Fremantle 22 5 17 0 2093 2250 20 93.0
15 West Coast 22 3 19 0 1986 2309 12 86.0
16 Melbourne 22 3 19 0 2016 2438 12 82.6


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A few things that you can be fairly certain on is that Melbourne will still win 2-3 more games this year and Essendon*/Fremantle/West Coast will all be a chance to finish on 4 wins.

Its highly unlikely any team will finish on 5 wins, even though the 'reward' is only a PP at the end of the 1st round, teams will still take that.

Geelong, Hawthorn and the Bulldogs will end up losing at least 3-4 games each. This is said with less certainty than the others as we're already 7 games in, but someone will upset them along the way.

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shuffagus wrote:
Princes Park Whistler wrote:
Andain wrote:
1 Geelong 22 18 4 0 2363 2009 72 117.6
4 Adelaide 22 18 4 0 2287 2032 72 112.5
2 Hawthorn 22 17 5 0 2375 2101 68 113.0
8 Collingwood 22 15 7 0 2296 2184 60 105.1
10 Bris Lions 22 14 8 0 2227 2171 56 102.5
6 Sydney 22 13 8 1 2147 2008 54 106.9
7 Nth Melb 22 13 8 1 2190 2132 54 102.7
9 Port Adel 22 13 9 0 2252 2192 52 102.7

3 W Bulldogs 22 12 9 1 2413 2175 50 110.9
5 St Kilda 22 11 11 0 2142 2180 44 98.2
12 Richmond 22 8 13 1 2201 2287 34 96.2
15 West Coast 22 7 15 0 1998 2297 28 86.9
14 Fremantle 22 6 16 0 2105 2238 24 94.0
11 Carlton 22 5 17 0 2151 2276 20 94.5
13 Essendon* 22 3 19 0 2126 2471 12 86.0
16 Melbourne 22 1 21 0 1967 2487 4 79.0

Funny how we all see things differently.
Can guarantee it will not be 5 wins
who will we beat
My point was, with a priority pick on offer, we are more likely to only win 4 (or more than 5).


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mine is

1 Geelong 22 20 2 0 2529 1843 80 137.2
2 Hawthorn 22 20 2 0 2579 1897 80 135.9
3 W Bulldogs 22 17 4 1 2557 2031 70 125.8
4 Adelaide 22 14 8 0 2316 2003 56 115.6
6 Sydney 22 13 8 1 2239 1916 54 116.8
7 Nth Melb 22 12 9 1 2224 2098 50 106.0
9 Port Adel 22 11 11 0 2250 2194 44 102.5
5 St Kilda 22 11 11 0 2156 2166 44 99.5

10 Bris Lions 22 11 11 0 2191 2207 44 99.2
11 Carlton 22 10 12 0 2187 2240 40 97.6
12 Richmond 22 9 12 1 2144 2344 38 91.4
8 Collingwood 22 9 13 0 2196 2284 36 96.1
14 Fremantle 22 5 17 0 1975 2368 20 83.4
13 Essendon* 22 5 17 0 1979 2618 20 75.5
15 West Coast 22 4 18 0 1856 2439 16 76.0
16 Melbourne 22 3 19 0 1862 2592 12 71.8

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that was quite time consuming, here is what I ended up with:

Geelong 22 18 4 0 2533 1839 72 137.7
Adelaide 22 18 4 0 2388 1931 72 123.6
Hawthorn 22 18 4 0 2471 2005 72 123.2
Bris Lions 22 16 6 0 2317 2081 64 111.3
Sydney 22 14 7 1 2227 1928 58 115.5
W Bulldogs 22 13 8 1 2435 2153 54 113.0
Collingwood 22 12 10 0 2300 2180 48 105.5
Port Adel 22 12 10 0 2270 2174 48 104.4

St Kilda 22 12 10 0 2166 2156 48 100.4
Carlton 22 10 12 0 2175 2252 40 96.5
Nth Melb 22 9 12 1 2132 2190 38 97.3
Richmond 22 6 15 1 2099 2389 26 87.8
Fremantle 22 5 17 0 1990 2353 20 84.5
West Coast 22 4 18 0 1891 2404 16 78.6
Essendon* 22 4 18 0 2006 2591 16 77.4
Melbourne 22 3 19 0 1840 2614 12 70.3



Will be interesting to check on this as the seaon progresses




I just did this again and still had us finishing 10th below the Aints and Power (power to make the 8)

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kingkerna wrote:
that was quite time consuming, here is what I ended up with:

Geelong 22 18 4 0 2533 1839 72 137.7
Adelaide 22 18 4 0 2388 1931 72 123.6
Hawthorn 22 18 4 0 2471 2005 72 123.2
Bris Lions 22 16 6 0 2317 2081 64 111.3
Sydney 22 14 7 1 2227 1928 58 115.5
W Bulldogs 22 13 8 1 2435 2153 54 113.0
Collingwood 22 12 10 0 2300 2180 48 105.5
Port Adel 22 12 10 0 2270 2174 48 104.4

St Kilda 22 12 10 0 2166 2156 48 100.4
Carlton 22 10 12 0 2175 2252 40 96.5
Nth Melb 22 9 12 1 2132 2190 38 97.3
Richmond 22 6 15 1 2099 2389 26 87.8
Fremantle 22 5 17 0 1990 2353 20 84.5
West Coast 22 4 18 0 1891 2404 16 78.6
Essendon* 22 4 18 0 2006 2591 16 77.4
Melbourne 22 3 19 0 1840 2614 12 70.3



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I just did this again and still had us finishing 10th below the Aints and Power (power to make the 8)


And that's good, why?

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didn't say it was good darl.

But I might have a punt on the Power at $2.75 for the 8, we are $2.20.

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didn't say it was good darl.

But I might have a punt on the Power at $2.75 for the 8, we are $2.20.


okie dokie sweetie.

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