now - ive been away - but he pissed on a wall right?

30 pages?

wow

TC AND Media whipping boy

his bad past is blown out of proportion as much as this incident has been.

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Yeah but whatabout your whataboutism.

There is still a substantial core of Carlton supporters who make excuses for Fev and allow him to get away with the same things time after time since the day he stepped into Princes Park.

Nothing is going to change that, just look at this thread all the usual suspects saying exactly the same thing they say every time Fev does something stupid. You could set your clock by it!

We have already backed ourselves into a corner in how we have handled this. We needed to set a timeframe for his probation.

If Fev flowers up again then he is sacked and we will get nothing for him at trade time. If he does not and goes on to have a great year then there is no way that we would want to trade him.

He is a gun player, probably one of the best in the AFL on his day and if he played in the 70s/80s then he would probably be Captain of the club.

Unfortunately, nowadays there seems to be a demand on players to be role models, which is an entirely unreasonable expectation. There is no logical association between excelling in sport and being a "model" member of the community.

I would argue that every AFL player does a lot more for the community than the average "you and I" do, in visiting schools, hospitals and participation in community campaigns at all levels. The amount of "goodwill" they create is completely overlooked in situations like this.

I look froward to Fev having an impact this year on the field and hope that this is his last indiscression.

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http://www.news.com.au/heraldsun/sport/ ... 42,00.html

I find this an interesting thread. The same people saying Fevola isn’t a role model and hasn’t done “all that much” are the same people that are saying the club hasn’t offered him much help. ANY organization with an employee behaving like this would NOT be obligated to provide assistance, it’d be purely done on their on volition.

Can people stop saying it’s peeing in a public place, it @#$%&! isn’t. It’s desicrating a business shop-front while it’s customers lay witness. If you do not think this is disrespectful to anyone involved but mostly the proprietor, you are @#$%&! idiots. I love what Fev does, but this is embarrassing, to lay it off as supporters bagging their own is ridiculous.

Please remember that he can still be a shinning light to the youngsters, as given what the Carlton Football Club has done for him, I’d expect. I really hope it does cut him deep as being a part of the leadership group in the first place compromises the integrity of our decision process. I also think that given his remuneration he’d be compelled to help the youngsters on our list, just the title and the accolades that come with it aren’t deserved in the least.

It’s a long list of indiscretions Verbs, some not spoken of. Without laying blame there’s an incident with a player and his turd mysteriously turning up in a hotel pot-plant whilst staying on the Saphire Coast. Without the need for detail let’s use one’s imagination.

I love the guy, but I totally disapprove his actions. The punishment, given the history in my opinion is weak. But then again, any on-going incident will be met with the full arm of the law. His weak bladder is the issue that’s been dealt with, now if he doesn’t perform on-field, i.e. kicking 4-8, than maybe his preparation of being out at 4am five nights before the main event maybe questioned.

People think he doesn’t need to sacrifice as we should be placed in the same scrutiny with our own jobs. Well the average Australian wage is about 55K a year and Fev is on many times that wage. I dare say there’d be many people in Australia willing to sacrifice the need to go out and make a clown of themselves to be in that situation. In fact, drawing parallels with other industries, there are women all over the world willing to sacrifice themselves for this differential wage it brings from their countries median income, so to think Fev is being hard done-by to give up a few of life’s luxuries is ridiculous. When you and I are well into our last working years slaving away with ailments aplenty, he’ll be sitting pretty on his nest egg from the talent he’s developed, so the obligation for him to get the best out of himself is surely not far-fetched.

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From Greg Baum's article in today's Age - Blues have a clue about spearhead:

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And so while others miserably pledge themselves to the pursuit of ambition and brief power, I will be stretched out in the shade, singing.

And yet it seems David Parkin agrees with me:



from here: David Parkin slams Brendan Fevola

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David Parkin has been anti Fevola for quite a while.

I don't think he can give a balanced judgement in this area.

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Richard Pratt - A Carlton legend.

Wayne Carey anyone?

I'm not sure how failing to suspend Fev for one match will cost us a flag. Bit of a stretch there, especially as it's round ONE.

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And so while others miserably pledge themselves to the pursuit of ambition and brief power, I will be stretched out in the shade, singing.

His contract is up at the end of this year. With Swann and Icke in charge he is playing for his future. With Judd here he is no longer the poster boy and he will not get anywhere near what he got before.

If he has a poor year we will not give him much of a contract and no other club would pay much either.

The club says that Fev is not an alcoholic and yet all his misdemeanors seem to be in or around pubs; his only standout season was whilst he was oof the booze completely, so I am not so sure about the clubs verdict.
Maybe they don't was the label placed on him, but he is a definite candidate for AA.
On another note, Carrots impresses me more and more everytime he is interviewed or doing PR work for the club. His response to the Fev issue and how to deal with it sets a standard for all our guys to follow in dealing with the media.
It's just a pity that Carrots wasn't blessed with the same talent as Fev as I belive that he would be a game breaker not seen since Carey.

The look on The Fev's face as he left the Club yesterday afternoon told the story for me.

He looked as if the penalty he had received had hit hard, I hope he was hurting, whether he has taken it like a man or was simply just sulking is questionable however I am looking forward to the next 22 weeks of footy to see how he responds.

The Fev has to think 100% TEAM and less about The Fev.

No one should be questioning his commitment to his fans or the time he donates to charity as he is one of the best. Always the last to leave the field on Family Day signing autographs for everyone who wants one and gives 110% effort when it comes to charity work.

BUT, he is the AFL's Jekyl & Hyde. I still cant believe he mucks up like he does. STAY HOME AT NIGHT FEV , just play footy, you can do what u want when you retire. Hopefully its as a Carlton premiership player....

I got no problem with the club's punishment, but I disagree that the football world needed to know Fev is on his last chance. We have devalued one of our best assets.

His actions were embarassing but he put nobody in danger, there was no police involved. I am not excusing him but in the scheme of things, it was minor. If not for the rabid anti-Carlton backlash with journos like Caro and the SEN bogans, it would have been a "kick up the arse" job. We got sucked in by the ferals in the media and in radio-land

I was all for a suspension but I think the club has handled it well. If he stuffs up again with the booze, he's gone and that's fair enough.

Hopefully he's dragged the club's name through the mud for the last time.

Especially Nafan Buckley who said he should be suspended. Coming from the captain who never suspended anyone in the last couple of years at Collingwood

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We are Carlton, @#$%&! the rest !!!!!!

It was brilliantly handled. By not suspending him for matches - and jeapordising our ability to win, they had to make it look as if he was severely punished for a disrespectful and stupid act. The wanted to make it transparent so all those involved could see the severity of the penalty. He's on his last chance - there's nothing wrong with that! He's hardly been sent packing, it's just now up to him what he does with this chance. Some people don't get chances, and he's had a few. Scotland's also on his last chance...

Pull your head in Fev, knuckle down, and come out and kick a bag!

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a lot has been made of the fact that fev was out at 4am the week before opening round.

i saw 2 afl players out on the town on satday night. I think they just like to get it out of their system before the season starts.

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thats pretty bad-ass!

I'm happy. The club have done everything they can to accomodate his personality.

Now it's time to pull wagon or piss off*pun*. Does he want to play finals footy with Judd, Murphy, Gibbs, Kreuzer? Or does he want to be remembered as a good full forward in a bad team that never quit made it.

Scott Cummins used to kick a few goals in his day - hardly an AFL legend. We put Fev on a pedistal because he's all we've had in a very dark time.

Times have changed, Fev.

I'll have no issue watching him walk out the door if he does this again.

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If Sheedy was still coach of Essendon*, he'd instruct his players to get Fev pissed at any opportunity. Then pick him up in the PSD after he's sacked.

There's 15 coaches wondering how to get fev to their team next year

My thoughts as well...initially I wanted the suspension but I think the threat of being sacked might be a better way to get Fev on the straight and narrow and like I said previously that Swann has handled the situation very well.
You would have to think that Fev would be shopped around at seasons end....

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