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Just listening to SEN talkback on this, if I ever invent a product that specifically appeals to absolute morons, I'll be advertising exclusively on SEN.


But I do like "Vito" from Carlton... he is brilliant.....


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Advice from psychologists, player group and AFL.
10k fine.
Club to help him with alcohol issues, by enrolling him in relevant courses.
If any further alcohol-related incidents, club will sack Fev.


That last one is going to bite us on the bum.

I recon he'll be trade bait at the end of the year.


Hopefully he lasts the season. Hard to trade him if we've already sacked him.
Well i hope that doesn't happen,we can't lose players without getting a return for it,but i'm willing to trade him if he can't tow the line at season end.What will happen now is any dog in the street who hates Carlton will provoke him when he is out in town and he might have a drink or two,then he pushes that guy away because he is invading his personal space and is on the news. Is he sacked because of some toothless magpie fan is harassing him or following him

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I would have preferred the club to miss a week or 2 of Fev than have this hanging over our heads. Whether he flower up again & we lose him for nothing or not, we've effectively dropped his trade value with this. If we want to trade then clubs are just going to tell us he's a liability to us anyway.


Fair point, although I think we're at the stage now where clubs would tell us that anyway.

I have enough confidence in the people making decisions at our club now (we have the best Captain, CEO & President in the AFL) to be content that the right decision was made.

So.....everyone turn off SEN & 3AW! Look away when the news is on the TV! Don't read the newspapers! After all, that's what CJ does... :wink:

Oh, and let's lock this thread now and get back to talking about footy... :wink:

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I am happy with this decision, and am happy that we didn't cave in to the widespread demand that Fev be suspended. I don't think suspending Fevola was the answer. Suspending him punishes the team as a whole, and of course us as supporters, as it quite clearly lessens our chances of winning the game. Also, and I don't know Fev nor am I a psychologist, but Fev doesn't really come across to me as someone upon whom another suspension will have much effect. It might jolt him temporarily but as we've already seen a one-week suspension isn't all that big a deterrent. What we've done is upped the stakes to their maximum - Fev's career is now on the line. If that doesn't get him into line then nothing will and we'd be better off without him.

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Another reason why CFC worked so hard to land Juddy. As Capt he obviously had a large say in Fev's sentence and the sentence was perfect.

The Swan, Ratten, Judd, combo is going to take CFC an very long way if today's result is anything to go by.

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What's the big deal? If my boss said that I would be sacked if I logged on to Talking Carlton one more time during work hours, I sure wouldn't be doing it again. Fev, time to set up a microbrewery or distillery at home and get on the gas there. Open up an on line gambling account aswell and you've got it made.

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Fevola should have been suspended like Johnson from Geelong for around 5 weeks then told to find some form and show some good attitude way before this latest incident

The action taken by the leadership group I can understand. It gives him one last chance. His contract is up at the end of the year. He might be gone by years end anyway.

The negative is he wont have a chance to digest the sheer stupidity of his latest indiscretion and not learn from it.

Personally I reckon his days are numbered.

He should of been given a month ban from the club.

I also get the impression that the club dont want to dwell on it much. Thursday is an important time at the club. The club has virtually no more patience with this tool.

If I was to have a bet i say he will [REDACTED] up again.

For Fevola's sake I hoped I am wrong.


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It appears as if the club has handled this well, under the circumstances.

I wish people would stop comparing AFL footballers to everyday employees.

On the one hand we have people saying we should turn a blind eye to one of our players pissing on a shop window. And on the other we have people saying Carlton has a responsibility to provide Fevola with alcohol counselling. So it seems, either way, that Fevola never has to accept any responsibility! And therein lies the problem.

Thankfully the club has publicly announced a clear and easy to understand set of parameters in place and by doing so left the ball in Fevola's court, while still offering him the support he requires. A win/win ;) even if it may eventually lead to a loss for our playing list.

The player/club relationship is completely unlike a regular employer/employee relationship, and we should stop making comparisons between the two.

When on song there wouldn't be a Carlton fan that doesn't love what Fev does. This does not give Fevola the right to treat the club, his teammates or the club's supporters with the contempt and disrespect he has shown in the past.

The it's okay it was just a "boys night out" line is as feeble an excuse as one could imagine.

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This so called long list off-field indescretions, does anyone have any more info? All I can recall are the fire extiguisher incident many many years ago, the thing in Ireland and now this.


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Another reason why CFC worked so hard to land Juddy. As Capt he obviously had a large say in Fev's sentence and the sentence was perfect.

The Swan, Ratten, Judd, combo is going to take CFC an very long way if today's result is anything to go by.

Regards Cazzesman


I think one man had a major say.

Greg Swann. He is there with the keys to the place in the morning and last to leave at night. It seems that way to me anyway.

As for Juddy an co, they would all bat for there mate and no doubt as the key to our forward structure, want him to play.

Let's just hope the next headline see's Fevvy kicking 12 goals and repaying the faithful, himself included!

With Judd, Stevo and co, kicking it to you lace out, why oh 'WHY' would you not want to be a part of this great club??


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Alcohol related incidents dont include abusing the shit out of umpires when the balls in dispute 2m away or taking his boots off when the games still going and he is on the bench or leaning up against the fence during the course of a game or abusing teammates or being goal hungry

I hope he changes his spots. Unfortunately they often dont.


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I need more off-field incidents before i would classify him as being trouble off-field. I can only come up with three.


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I wonder how they told him that he would be playing this week.

Surely they didnt just go up to him and say "Ur in".... :-D


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Schwarz said he has a hunch that when the two clubs are created in NSW and QLD that Fevola will join one of them.


Ox has been having hunches for years, trouble for him is that most of them finished 15 lengths behind the winner

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Fair enough result, I think Swann was sincere in wanting to help Fev but at the same time telling him he is on his last chance.
I wasnt expecting the last chance scenerio but its shows Swann means business and I like the way he has gone about it....

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What language would that be Dodo as it seems familiar?



that was Classical Street Slang Lebo Language lool


Hey Dodo, me loves the Lebanese.

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Fair enough result, I think Swann was sincere in wanting to help Fev but at the same time telling him he is on his last chance.
I wasnt expecting the last chance scenerio but its shows Swann means business and I like the way he has gone about it....


So we have 25 pages of people saying that they have known for ages that Fevola is a serial offender and has an alcohol problem, but it is only today that the club acknowledge this and offer to support Fev through this - yet on the other hand have the heavy penalty of contract termination hanging over his head. Are the club not equally at fault for not providing him support in the past? Are they in fact negligent if they haven't?

*i of course have no idea what support they have offered in the past but going on todays result it appears this is new territory in the relationship between player and club.


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I don't think anyone has mentioned this but Fev told the club that he will abstain from drinking any alcohol this year.

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Fair enough result, I think Swann was sincere in wanting to help Fev but at the same time telling him he is on his last chance.
I wasnt expecting the last chance scenerio but its shows Swann means business and I like the way he has gone about it....


So we have 25 pages of people saying that they have known for ages that Fevola is a serial offender and has an alcohol problem, but it is only today that the club acknowledge this and offer to support Fev through this - yet on the other hand have the heavy penalty of contract termination hanging over his head. Are the club not equally at fault for not providing him support in the past? Are they in fact negligent if they haven't?

*i of course have no idea what support they have offered in the past but going on todays result it appears this is new territory in the relationship between player and club.


We have had a few people representing the club since Fev has been there, so you can't lay blameon Swann and co, when you should equally be blaming Malouf, Denis, Parkin, Brittain, Collo...............

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