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PostPosted: Sun Oct 14, 2007 10:59 pm 
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I for one, stood by Pagan, wanted to give him the chance to rebuild this club. I was wrong. I was wrong. I did not vote for the Smorgon Board, I wanted them gone, I was right.

I did not realize it at the time but they were both parts of the same problem - that being the belief this club had lost. Pagan never set above to instil belief. I can still hear him admitting our weaknesses, our lack of depth or the problems with playing kids. Truth it may have been, but they were not the of a man restoring a club’s belief in itself. Perhaps intangibles were not his thing.

Smorgon's Board was too busy leaking to bother with belief. One of the reasons the
love Sticks is because he oozes self-belief. He has always carried the torch while we searched for the kindling that would set it burning again.

The torch is lit! This club thrives on self-belief. Some call it arrogance - perhaps it is. It is the arrogance that comes with belief. This club believes in itself no matter the competitor, nor the situation (think of 1970, halftime and 44 points in arrears!). Self-belief means such things can and will be overcome. Our history shows we have overcome more times than a gospel choir.

Barass was such a perfect fit for this club because he oozed self-belief. I remember as a kid watching his television where he’d teach us how to kick and handball. The man lived football, and each bulging muscle, every steel-eyed glare, was filled with his belief in his own talent. When this club appointed him coach it was a brilliant move. Barass instilled self-belief into the club that had lost its way and we never looked back.

Throughout our successes we have always had filled with self-belief. Players like Big Nick, Johnno, Fitzy, Braddles and Diesel. These players wore the jumper, imbued it with a near magical capacity to overcome, to strive, to believe, to win. The premiership quarter was a weekly exercise in self-belief. No matter the scoreboard at halftime the great Carlton teams always saw themselves as in with a chance, never losing belief in their ability to find a way home.

We erred the end of the Elliott reign though. Desperation and bravado are not the same thing as self-belief. Both display the same arrogant face, but beneath the strut the inner-workings are very different. Barass always could deliver - on and off the field. Our sides could always deliver, that's what belief brings. Bravado will always be exposed eventually. So it came to pass.

Then Dick stepped on board, a Carlton man, a man filled with self-belief, a man who knew what we lost. He has set about getting it back. He has searched and found other liked-minded souls. Swanny presents the confidence that comes with self-belief. Ratts has always believed in his own strong-willed being. He has seen himself as coach of Carlton - and so he now is – self-belief!

Now enter Chris Judd. Does any player walk with such self-belief? I cannot think of anyone. CJ is a man through and through, even if he doesn't know it yet. He is filled with self-belief, and filled with the desire to compete, to test his belief over and over again, and to rise to each new examination of his talent, his character, himself. He is the personification of what this club has restored to itself. Every single official, player, supporter and opponent, believes again.

Carlton is a formidable opponent when healthy, when self-belief shines out of the white beacon on the navy blue chest.

We are back.

We believe in ourselves again.

Welcome Chris Judd, good luck Josh and congratulations to Dick, Swanny and everyone at the club.

Go Blues.

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I enjoyed that DB :)

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Thanx Danny. Yes make no mistake about it...the journey to September glory has well and truly begun..and is speeding up by the day.

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Love your work Danny. Great read!


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PostPosted: Sun Oct 14, 2007 11:17 pm 
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Good one Danny.

much prefer belief than arrogance.

I get quite literal with these things, but I believe that the club was never arrogant when it was successful. I've never been able to articulate it very well but belief or the club believing in itself is a very good description.

be·lief /bɪˈlif/ Pronunciation Key - Show Spelled Pronunciation[bi-leef] Pronunciation Key - Show IPA Pronunciation
–noun 1. something believed; an opinion or conviction: a belief that the earth is flat.
2. confidence in the truth or existence of something not immediately susceptible to rigorous proof: a statement unworthy of belief.
3. confidence; faith; trust: a child's belief in his parents.


ar·ro·gance /ˈærəgəns/ Pronunciation Key - Show Spelled Pronunciation[ar-uh-guhns] Pronunciation Key - Show IPA Pronunciation
–noun offensive display of superiority or self-importance; overbearing pride.

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Thanks Danny.

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PostPosted: Sun Oct 14, 2007 11:21 pm 
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Great post Danny.
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 Post subject: Re: belief
PostPosted: Mon Oct 15, 2007 1:08 am 
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dannyboy wrote:
One of the reasons the
love Sticks is because he oozes self-belief. He has always carried the torch while we searched for the kindling that would set it burning again.


Great post Danny. I especially agree with the above.

Although Sticks had many misgivings, which were especially exposed due to our poor position, the one thing he did was maintain the flame, and that's why he was still useful as a figurehead.

He carried the 'Carlton spirit' through the shit, even if he didn't do it in style.

"We're Carlton, @#$%&! the rest". It wasn't a smart comment at the time, but at least someone was still willing to believe it. Now we all believe again.

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PostPosted: Mon Oct 15, 2007 1:12 am 
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Jarusa wrote:
ar·ro·gance offensive display of superiority or self-importance; overbearing pride.


Haha, wishful thinking Jarusa. I think the above may apply at times throughout the next few years. :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

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Puts it in a nutshell. Excellent work.

Arrogance never sat well with me either.

Self Belief explains Carlton far better than arrogance.

Lets see where self belief takes us this time around..

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The belief this club has started with Perc Bentley and Bob Chitty dragging the club from the bottom of the ladder to premiers within 6 months in 1945.

It has continued on with other famous victories, the 1970 comeback, the 1972 defeat of premiership favourites Richmond, the '99 prelim victory against an unbackable Essendon* amongst them.

We don't deserve our silvertail reputation - our reputation should be that of a team that constantly defies the odds. Our history is littered with examples.

GO BLUES

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It sets us apart from most other clubs. It is a fine line between hope and belief.

Carlton = Belief,
Collingwood = Hope
St Kilda = Delusion
Richmond = Cannibalism

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darknavy wrote:
Richmond = Cannibalism
The only club whose fans spit on its players

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p(12)terg wrote:
darknavy wrote:
Richmond = Cannibalism
The only club whose fans spit on its players



No the Crows "supporters" have done it too!!

Great post Danny :) . Cant help thinking that it is such an Australian thing for any one to talk about Carlton being "arrogant". Lived in America for a while a few years ago. Over there they would just talk about the self belief and the club spirit. Their attitude towards sport is in many ways different. Love or hate the yanks you are praised for doing what it takes to win......it is not arrogant to think you are good....it is not arrogant to get who you need to win...it is not arrogant to use existing rules to your advantage...it is what it takes to win. It is belief not arrogance. Lance Armstrong to many Australians would be seen as arrogant. In America he is just seen as a champion who had massive belief in himself.

The BELIEF is back. Now we just need to see some success.


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I have a belief that our arrogance will be back in the near future 8)

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