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I love his emotion, he didn't crack it that bad - keep in mind that it wasn't even a 50 metre penalty. However right to the very end he still wasn't getting any favours from the umps

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People have to remember the Umpires are the main show now.
The only way Fev will get a free kick is if he needs a rape shower after the game.
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Sure Fev gets the odd dud decision. But so does every player, from every team. It's a bloody cop out to say that it's only Fevola.


True. However, I'm not saying it's only Fevola, I'm saying it is Fevola that is crucified by umpires, and it's obvious to everyone that umpires are generally unfavourable towards him; and that is wrong!! Wrong!! Wrong!!

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And it's bad enough that poor decisions and inconsistent interpretations are prevalent in every game, but do you know what is worse? Something that affects our team more than any umpiring decision? It's Fevola's persistent whinging and remonstration towards the umpires. Fev, mate, if you're reading this we all feel your pain, but if you get s stiff call from the umpies, just STFU and get on with the bloody game! You're not the first bloke to get shafted, you won't be the last either. Shit happens.


Good advice, and I agree with that.

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But the more you remonstrate and bag the umpires the more you will continue to have the 50/50 calls go against you


Yes that's a fact of life, but what do we do, just shut up and take it?

No way. Not me.

and, it's not the 50/50 calls I'm referring to either. It's the obvious ones when he gets his head ripped off infront of the umpires, or when he is being held, or when he takes a good mark against 2 opponents. They are killing the game, and they are killing an entertainment machine.

Call it any way you like.

To me it's unAustralian.

Umpires should call a spade a spade, or just piss off and toy with people's lives elsewhere.

I've had a gutful of their disdain over the last 5 years. We have served our sentence, and they (the umpires) serve this shit, without being held to account.

Bullshit. They are friggin white ants, and deserve the insults they receive week in week out. They are playing games, not umpiring.

Umpiring in the AFL in 2007 is pathetic...they are going backwards...Geishen is a handpuppet with no brains, his strings are being pulled.

I don't like what I'm seeing.

PS: The Gilchrist mentoring for Fev idea is a bloody good one.

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Fev's dummy spits and bad umpiring decisions towards him are a bit like the chicken and the egg for mine.

One seems to create the other, which came first?

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Please lets not start being whingers like Richo and the Tiges!

Yes Fevola has to get pack raped before he gets a free... BUT on the flip side he does get some soft ones occasionally. He just has to leave it and move on, because they wont change their decision, as wrong as it may seem.

What i do get annoyed about is the special treatment star players get... namely: Hird, Reiwoldt and Judd... you cant touch these blokes and they get 10 secs whilst in a tackle to get rid of the ball.... two sets of rules as we saw with Goodes in the tribunal... should have got 2 at least

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Fev needs to understand what Sam Newman has said for years.

Umpires are little prima donnas. Their precious little egos means that they are centre stage and they are the focus of the game. They are above the players and the players should cowtail to them. When Fev gives them lip or abuses them for missing a free or payin a shocker, they show him who's boss. "We run the show and we'll make you pay"

The crap is that accepted. People believe that umpires should act this way. They are there to apply the same standars to every player and decision. They cant pick and choose who theylike. They are paid a shit load of money and they need to be accountable for the garbage they produce.

Players wives fathers etc should make media statements weekly about how crap the umpiring was. Cant be fined then.

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Fev needs to understand what Sam Newman has said for years.

Umpires are little prima donnas. Their precious little egos means that they are centre stage and they are the focus of the game. They are above the players and the players should cowtail to them. When Fev gives them lip or abuses them for missing a free or payin a shocker, they show him who's boss. "We run the show and we'll make you pay"

The crap is that accepted. People believe that umpires should act this way. They are there to apply the same standars to every player and decision. They cant pick and choose who theylike. They are paid a shit load of money and they need to be accountable for the garbage they produce.


Players wives fathers etc should make media statements weekly about how crap the umpiring was. Cant be fined then.



This is such a sad indictment of where the AFL are at and the game. If it is as you say then it's very dim indeed. Officialdom should be invisible, a good umpire should not be noticed. I agree we go to the footy to watch the players not the umpire. I umpired senior football in the late 70's and 80's and it was drummed into us - do the business and we were not the show. Having said that people do things for a whole variety of reasons and there are people who umpire to promote themselves and if this is the case in the AFL, their screening of potential umpires is appalling.

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cowtail


It's kow-tow you racist bastard

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It's kow-tow you racist bastard


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Every week I say the umpiring can't get any worse - but it does.

The final score says we lost by 43 points, but I reckon bad umpiring decisions at critical points cost us plenty, and the result should have been much closer.

Fev is obviously being persecuted by the umps. First thing he has to do is not react in anyway to decisions that go against him, nor appeal for free kicks.

Secondly, the club's board has got to make formal representations to the umpiring officials to get the umps to do what they are supposed to do - apply the rules of the game without bias to any player or any team.

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the club's board has got to make formal representations to the umpiring officials to get the umps to do what they are supposed to do - apply the rules of the game without bias to any player or any team.


That's all I'm asking for.

And if they don't, when they should, then as...

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Players wives fathers etc should make media statements weekly about how crap the umpiring was. Cant be fined then.


or else I will continue to call a spade a spade, and raise my voice, and back anyone that does the same; it's time to stand up to these schoolyard bullies.

The umpires are in the wrong, and I as any astute follower of the game are going to continue their barrage against this pathetic power trip these umpies are on!

I'm an egalitarian!

bzaaaaahhh wrote, referring to Sam Newman's opinion...

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Umpires are little prima donnas. Their precious little egos means that they are centre stage and they are the focus of the game. They are above the players


Sam Newman is right, and the umpires are in the wrong, they should be seen but not heard.

The AFL and Geishen have created monsters that monster our game. Yeah...OUR game....MY club.

I'm not discussing what Fev should or shouldn't do, I'm discussing what is, and I'm not being a whinger...not for one minute...I'm disgusted in what I am seeing day in day out, and have had a gutful of these prima donas!

The umpires are not the game.

It's that staight forward!!

Protest and there will be change...go along with it and I consider you a masochist, because you'll continue to cop disgarceful decisions week in week out.

No ones gonna punch me in the mouth, again and again, and just take it; I'm punching back.

Stuff it! I'm right they're wrong...it's that simple!

Pricks :twisted:

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The way the filth got an armchair ride of the maggots tonight, I am afraid Fev has got no hope next week.

Clement pushed a crow forward fair & square in the back during the last qtr- maggot called "play on" :evil:

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I cant stand people saying Fev should control himself! I think it would be rediculous if he wasn't going off at the umpires! How the hell would you all react when the most obvious of freekicks are occuring game in game out and the umpires are refusing to pay anything! If you look at that hands in the back one against Gwilt.. Bloody Gwilt turned around to stand on the mark because he new he was outmarked and beaten, he did not for one second look at the umpire or try and ask for the free kick! When 3 men jump all over Fev and stop him from having any attempt at marking the ball and he gets nothing for it, he goes nuts AND RIGHTLY SO!

i will continue to go nuts with Fev because it is bloody frustrating being snipered by the umpires!

I AM WITH YOU BRENDAN!

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Fevola must not over do it, I know its easier for us supporters to criticize him or agree with him but in the end look at Greg Williams’s ego on the field in the end it cost him a Brownlow Medal and nine weeks or what ever it was suspension which ended his career.


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MB, its not a case of is he entitled to go off at the umpires.

What is he getting out of it?
Are they paying free kicks because of it?
Would he be better off questioning it in a more composed manner at some point where play has stopped? Would that make the umpires a little more receptive?

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I cant stand people saying Fev should control himself! I think it would be rediculous if he wasn't going off at the umpires! How the hell would you all react when the most obvious of freekicks are occuring game in game out and the umpires are refusing to pay anything! If you look at that hands in the back one against Gwilt.. Bloody Gwilt turned around to stand on the mark because he new he was outmarked and beaten, he did not for one second look at the umpire or try and ask for the free kick! When 3 men jump all over Fev and stop him from having any attempt at marking the ball and he gets nothing for it, he goes nuts AND RIGHTLY SO!

i will continue to go nuts with Fev because it is bloody frustrating being snipered by the umpires!

I AM WITH YOU BRENDAN!


One of the reasons this happens is because our coach has no bloody idea and cannot develop a plan that prevents 3 on 1!!!

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I cant stand people saying Fev should control himself! I think it would be rediculous if he wasn't going off at the umpires! How the hell would you all react when the most obvious of freekicks are occuring game in game out and the umpires are refusing to pay anything! If you look at that hands in the back one against Gwilt.. Bloody Gwilt turned around to stand on the mark because he new he was outmarked and beaten, he did not for one second look at the umpire or try and ask for the free kick! When 3 men jump all over Fev and stop him from having any attempt at marking the ball and he gets nothing for it, he goes nuts AND RIGHTLY SO!

i will continue to go nuts with Fev because it is bloody frustrating being snipered by the umpires!

I AM WITH YOU BRENDAN!


One of the reasons this happens is because our coach has no bloody idea and cannot develop a plan that prevents 3 on 1!!!


You know he wouldn't have to, if that 1 was in fact a 5 metre tall bionic man, armed with a tractor beam to grab the football from 50 metres away.

I think they are running the experiments on Fev in the off season.


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I cant stand people saying Fev should control himself! I think it would be rediculous if he wasn't going off at the umpires! How the hell would you all react when the most obvious of freekicks are occuring game in game out and the umpires are refusing to pay anything! If you look at that hands in the back one against Gwilt.. Bloody Gwilt turned around to stand on the mark because he new he was outmarked and beaten, he did not for one second look at the umpire or try and ask for the free kick! When 3 men jump all over Fev and stop him from having any attempt at marking the ball and he gets nothing for it, he goes nuts AND RIGHTLY SO!

i will continue to go nuts with Fev because it is bloody frustrating being snipered by the umpires!

I AM WITH YOU BRENDAN!


One of the reasons this happens is because our coach has no bloody idea and cannot develop a plan that prevents 3 on 1!!!


You know he wouldn't have to, if that 1 was in fact a 5 metre tall bionic man, armed with a tractor beam to grab the football from 50 metres away.

I think they are running the experiments on Fev in the off season.



I watched some of the Lions v Dockers game today and I saw two perfect examples of what we should be doing consistently.
1. They doubled teamed Brown and Johnson sat at the bottom of the pack and goaled easily from the spill.
2. When Brown had 2 players on him in the forward pocket there was a clear player on his own 30 mteres out and they delivered the ball to the free player.

Yes the Lions forward line is focussed around Brown but the midfielders actually appear to be instructed (and capable) to look for the best option, not just Brown.

This begs the question - Why can't we do this?

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Spot on Taff, everyone knew the Brisbane mids would kick it to Brown, but they were able to have McGrath, Patfull or Power at the spill. Fremantle defenders weren't able to pick the ball off. Also the Lions mids didn't bomb the ball in there; even when they kicked it to Brown one on three it was a relatively short kick which stopped the Fremantle defenders from blocking Brown and taking an uncontested mark.


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Taff wrote:
SparkyBlue wrote:
Taff wrote:
Mighty Blues wrote:
I cant stand people saying Fev should control himself! I think it would be rediculous if he wasn't going off at the umpires! How the hell would you all react when the most obvious of freekicks are occuring game in game out and the umpires are refusing to pay anything! If you look at that hands in the back one against Gwilt.. Bloody Gwilt turned around to stand on the mark because he new he was outmarked and beaten, he did not for one second look at the umpire or try and ask for the free kick! When 3 men jump all over Fev and stop him from having any attempt at marking the ball and he gets nothing for it, he goes nuts AND RIGHTLY SO!

i will continue to go nuts with Fev because it is bloody frustrating being snipered by the umpires!

I AM WITH YOU BRENDAN!


One of the reasons this happens is because our coach has no bloody idea and cannot develop a plan that prevents 3 on 1!!!


You know he wouldn't have to, if that 1 was in fact a 5 metre tall bionic man, armed with a tractor beam to grab the football from 50 metres away.

I think they are running the experiments on Fev in the off season.



I watched some of the Lions v Dockers game today and I saw two perfect examples of what we should be doing consistently.
1. They doubled teamed Brown and Johnson sat at the bottom of the pack and goaled easily from the spill.
2. When Brown had 2 players on him in the forward pocket there was a clear player on his own 30 mteres out and they delivered the ball to the free player.

Yes the Lions forward line is focussed around Brown but the midfielders actually appear to be instructed (and capable) to look for the best option, not just Brown.

This begs the question - Why can't we do this?


Very, very good point, evidenced by friday's match. The Saints were flooding often during the game, and there were quite a few times when the ball came to ground... cue crumbers and goalsneaks right? Instead it was the Saints who would run and rebound from our 50. Every push inside our 50, apart from our 5 goal burst - was painful and difficult.

Apart from Eddie and the midfielders that float down to the contest - where are our gun crumbers to kick those goals? The Saints were crumbling perfectly in their attacking 50, kicking arsey goals and undermining the good work from our unexperienced defensive line - but nothing doing down our end.

The worst thing is the bets option I can think of to rectify it is Lappin, and thats it!


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