There is a direct relationship between the potential upside in a player and the length of time you give them to prove themselves, irrespective of where they come from.

if Trent Sporn is worth 6 years then Aisake has 12 years to prove himself in my book. A 202cm flanker?????????????????? With pace to burn? Who can play like Daryl White and take the ruck? And maybe one day become key position?

Promote Aisake regardless at the end of the year.

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Cause not everyone is the same, and Setanta is just a freak.

Remember big guys take longer to mature, and this boy has only just begun.....

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Talk about believing everything you read.

If he was all that he'd be in the seniors with a bullet.

Expecting him to play senior VFL footy consistently and make a contribution isn't much to ask. He's yet to do that which is a small concern after two years on the list. It's not critical at this stage but you would want to see some solid improvement between now and the end of the year.

We're getting off topic here.

There's a sea of difference between 'maybe one day', (which he posted), and 'will one day', (which he did not post).

Promotion is reward for peformance and potential.

IF, (have to be careful with you Andrain), Aisake becomes the great player we all want; will you be happy then?

But will you?

But will you be happy then?

We all know your disdain for our players. I looked up the last positive post you entered on Carlton players and it said 'REFER TO THE BLUE VIEW'.

I have seen no less than 10 training sessions and Aisake has as much promise as Setanta, if not more. He looks far more natural off the boot than Setanta and moves like he belongs.

Aisake is being asked to play in 'make position' positions rather than just follow an opponent, like his brother. As such, it is a harder role for anyone let alone a foreigner.

I have no doubt Aisake will make it. By which time you'll have 5 more people to complain about on the list.

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Of course. I'm not one of those idiots who have it in for one of our players regardless of performance like the Whitnall, Stevens or Scotland haters. I would love it if Aisake makes it.

He said maybe one day about key position but not about the rest. Plays like Darryl White and can take the ruck? He's tall but he's hardly a ruckman yet.

I just realised you are talking about Bullants senior footy

I agree, he must make an appearance this year in the Bullants seniors. The longer that appearance this year, the better for all involved.

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Well known? I didn't think I was all that interesting a poster to become well known. Disdain for our players? Just because I don't rate every player on the team as a world beater doesn't mean that I have disdain for the entire team.

Jordan Bannister is pretty good on the training track too. It's what you do on the field that matters. That said I'm glad to hear your positive review about Aisake, I just want to see more of that natural talent put to use in a football game.

Yeah sorry if I wasn't clear. AFL footy is probably a year away but hopefully he's at least putting himself up into contention for a spot by the end of the year.

Is yet today? Or is yet at the end of the season should we promote him? Is yet the desire to see Aisake promoted and become a ruckman for Carlton? Is there anything wrong with describing his potential in line with the style of an existing player that the poster sees similarities with?

I'd tell Aisake he's hardly a ruckman yet. That would do him the world of good.

Spot on. 100% with you all the way.

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Yep because that what I'm advocating our coaches do Besides I'm sure he knows that already and he's working hard to improve. It's whether he'll be able to get there thats in question. He needs to show some positive signs during matches over the next year to show that he's starting to move forward if he's to earn a spot on the senior list. I don't think it's not too much to ask for something so valuable.

hammer does your dad work at Telstra? they all seem to congregate there.

Nup, because you're chopping enthusiasm supporters have for Aisake under a retort of, ' That's what I'm advocating'.

I'm sorry if my pointing out of reality has disappointed so many people. Personally I'd rather know exactly where certain players are at then hear a fanciful tale that puts expectations so high that the player involved would have to be a superstar just to meet those expectations.

Aisake has shown signs of becoming a good footballer.

He hasn't got his game together yet...and there's good reason for that. The question for me is whether he is a better footballer today than what he was when he arrived. That'll answer in questions regarding progress.

Remember that his 2007 season hasn't started yet, so lets see what Aisake brings to the park next weekend.

I bet he's chomping at the bit.

I bet right now that he will be promoted at the end of the season!

What's the alternative...and what's the cost?

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I also bet he is there next year.

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I bet he plays afl football

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I bet you're right dannyboy.

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