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PostPosted: Sun Apr 15, 2007 9:25 am 
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I thought Lance helped start the entire comeback when he returned to the field with about 5 minutes to go in the 2nd Qtr.

Wallsy bagged Pagan for bringing him back on but was soon eating his words (gladly I think).

LT I don't see a role for Whitnall unless he plays to a standard requied from a player of his experience. I would rather start blooding more recruits (Hartlett and Bower for starters).


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I dunno why we are directing venom to our own players after a stunning game just played

I was more annoyed with the 1st half coaching and Vozzo and the maggots in yellow

Lance on Lucas wrong matchup not his fault that was just silly and proven when T-Bird shut lucas after halftime

Lappin was a great spark we needed

Simmo had a quiet game but came back a bit in second half

We won a great game reserve your venom to those flowers in Yellow they screwed us royally today

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Youd have to say the two most obvious candidates for the chop would have to be Lance and Lappin.


Make up your mind Synbad. Earlier in the week you were calling for Lappin's dumping. Now you're saying he's a leader. Which one is it??? Clearly can't see the bigger picture. Which is that Lappin is all class and we need him in the team.


.. i always said he should be in the forward line...
:lol:


I dont have a problem with Lappin.. i have a problem with the way Lappin is being handled by Denis...
If Denis doesnt play him properly.. well there isnt much space for Lappin in the side then is there????

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lances vision at bringing others into play
his visionary kicks and handpasses more likely than not opens up the play.
we need the big guy in form.
not really fussed whether he kicks goals, albeit he should... his sheer vision in opening up the play is where his worth is at.


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winfieldblue wrote:
lances vision at bringing others into play
his visionary kicks and handpasses more likely than not opens up the play.
we need the big guy in form.
not really fussed whether he kicks goals, albeit he should... his sheer vision in opening up the play is where his worth is at.


see.. i reckon youre dreaming.
as far as im concerned if he cant get in a kick in a real position in a game he is of no use... because if he isnt.. were trying to create and conjure up ways on how to bring Lance into the game which will ultimately fail and stop others development.

Its simple... is he up to playing modern day football?? yes or no...!!

If he is he plays and he plays in a meaningful effective manner.. if he isnt.. see ya later!!!.. right now he isnt!!!(i dont expect him to play well for more than the odd game.. the odd half.. the odd quarter.. or the odd ten minutes.. with all that diminishing very swiftly...

Hes washed up!!...if youre really fair dinkum about improvement you dont try and sweep Lance under the carpet by hiding him... hes a very big bloke to have under the carpet without noticing..

All youre doing is stopping Joey Anderson.. or Paul Bower or Adam Hartlett from developing...

Thats all...

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obviously he is up to it
he is our reigning b&f


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winfieldblue wrote:
obviously he is up to it
he is our reigning b&f


Two words for you..

Teague McKernan.

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Synbad wrote:
.. i always said he should be in the forward line...
:lol:


You said Lappin should be dropped... so I expect to read only 3 words... "I was wrong".


Synbad wrote:
I dont have a problem with Lappin.. i have a problem with the way Lappin is being handled by Denis...
If Denis doesnt play him properly.. well there isnt much space for Lappin in the side then is there????


You are a genius. Maybe we should drop Fevola too then? Cause if Denis doesn't play him at full forward he isn't good enough to be in our team?

Lappin needs to be in the team and on the field. There's not much more to it. He is effective as a forward, midfielder and defender.

I think it's pretty obvious that if the coach doesn't play someone properly they're not going to be effective. It doesn't mean that there not good enough to be in our team. Lappin is in our top 10-15 players and has earnt his spot in the team. Just because the coach doesn't have him on the field doesn't mean you call for him to be dropped. That's a little unfair. He had an excellent last quarter last week against Geelong when he was finally on the field (in the midfield) for an extended period of time. And he sparked us yesterday - when many other players were dragging there feet.


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Synbad, with all your vision and foresight, do you know why Teague fell from grace the year after winning a B&F?


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I dunno...

Lance did well yesterday - but it seems we are just conjuring up positions for him . Arround the ground ruckman when the guy is meant to have a sore knee? (Remember that people have been telling us this is the reason for the poor form). It might work against Essendon*, but I can't see it achieving much against Cox over at Subiaco next week. Likewise it might work against St Kilda in a few weeks, but I wouldn't give it much show against sides like Sydney.

Look, it is great he found a little form, and that he got some touches. But I don't think it solves our overall dilemma of where he plays and what to do with him. I think the best we can hope for is that it has put some confidence into him so that he is able to contribute in a specific position (probably next to Kennedy on the HFF).

I hope he keeps up the good form - but I'm not sure that yesterday actually answered the dilemmas he poses for the MC.


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Synbad stop opening your mouth, you're not doing yourself or the teams any favours......


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Synbad stop opening your mouth, you're not doing yourself or the teams any favours......

BlueJean... i think you shouldnt bite off more than tyou can chew.
As for Teague Lance and Corey.. it was all past them .. the game moves and doesnt take everyone with them.
And as for the moron that says Lappin should get dropped... read what i said about him ... he should be played in the forward line to breathe life into him...Or do you read only what you want to read?

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Like i said, this thread has turned into a negative topic

Blues had their greatest ever comeback against Essendon*, that was sweeter then winning both NAB cup finals. To come back on Essendon* from being that far down and to win by a couple points was awesome.

Best game ever

The Blues have belief and confidence first time in years. Exciting times to come.


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That's all Synbad can do, be negative.

Synbad you're one of the supporters that was calling for Lappin to be dropped. Look at your posts during the week. Others like myself defended Lappin... because we know that we need our classy players (like Lappin) in the team. Because they can be match winners or match turners, just like Lappin was yesterday. Just admit you were wrong!


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nytdog wrote:
That's all Synbad can do, be negative.

Synbad you're one of the supporters that was calling for Lappin to be dropped. Look at your posts during the week. Others like myself defended Lappin... because we know that we need our classy players (like Lappin) in the team. Because they can be match winners or match turners, just like Lappin was yesterday. Just admit you were wrong!


Synbad is female, can never admit when hes wrong :)

Hes just waiting foir the WCE game then he will be l told u so lol


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dannyboy wrote:

JK should be dropped. Let him re-earn his spot.


i agree with that one, J-Train has been lagging a little and showing him he needs to earn his spot would only make him hungrier. maybe give Adam Hartlett a guernsey, or bring up another runner to combat the Eagles this week. Jordy Bannister always does reasonably ok against Judd so why not give him a shot.


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Teen Spirit wrote:
dannyboy wrote:

JK should be dropped. Let him re-earn his spot.


i agree with that one, J-Train has been lagging a little and showing him he needs to earn his spot would only make him hungrier. maybe give Adam Hartlett a guernsey, or bring up another runner to combat the Eagles this week. Jordy Bannister always does reasonably ok against Judd so why not give him a shot.


Nic


I'm changing my opinion from last week and agreeing with you guys on this one.


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Lance was serviceable yesterday, but it is getting harder to hide him every week. He can’t run, can’t jump, and unless he improves fitness substantially this might well be the last year.

The second half showed the difference good tactics can make to the game situation. Based on the tactical rubbish we have seen from Denis to date,
I can’t help but think that Ratten, Corsica, et al were behind those moves.


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I think it's worth persevering with Kennedy for an extra week, if only for the "playing in front of a home crowd" point. Didn't do too badly against the Eagles last year either.

Would like to see Bower get a run for similiar reasons, as obviously it's imperative that these 2 blokes stay with the club for as long as possible, however, one plaudit that must be levied upon the MC is their faith in the same 22 this week paid off, and as such, it's showing that it's crucial that we maintain a fairly solid starting line up.


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