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PostPosted: Thu Mar 29, 2007 8:32 am 
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If she's right, and Lance did not alert the club, its appalling. Post fact handling has been extremely orinary. cannot lay that at the feet of Icke or Swan, they've only been there 8 seconds.



Would not surprise me in the least if Whitnall did not alert the club about his comical family feud.
Lance Whitnall was going to play cricket last week in a Grand final for lalor and did not inform the football club. This a week away from the AFL season proper and on a rock hard ground. The footy club discovered that he was going to play and informed him not to.(common sense prevailed)
Some say that he is the smartest on the field but off the field I'm not so sure.


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..lookit, caro's dog ugly and chases the easy stories.. ..lets just say that who-ever employed her musta been hugely desperate.. ..


Yeah right....Chief Football witer for the Age......Winner of the AFL Football Writer of The AFL every year for the last few years..... :roll:

Ignorance is bliss.



.. ..she is..?.. ..she has..??.. ..well i'll be.. ..exactly what i'll be, i won't know until i spit the foot that's currently halfway down my throat.. ..heh, i'll remember to clip my toenails next time.. ..but i must say, that many of her articles are quite un-inspiring, and i always do tend to read the papers with a grasp on who actually owns the paper.. ..and let's face it, with such un-inspiring subject matter and a year 10 english exam essay layout to that particular article it's hard to fathom her earnin' any awards.. ..obviously, sports journo's aren't riskin' life and limb on the frontline of any warzones, so they're not gonna be writing news articles that truely make a difference..

..it's just a dodgey topic i guess, and dodgey cos it was handled badly from the cfc side of it, but really if she's gonna go reportin' on the misconduct of football player's she need look no further than the tiger's own backyard..

..((..mebbe she 'earned' her awards the ol' fashioned way..??..haha..))..

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Big Kahuna Boot wrote:
Warby wrote:
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..lookit, caro's dog ugly and chases the easy stories.. ..lets just say that who-ever employed her musta been hugely desperate.. ..


Yeah right....Chief Football witer for the Age......Winner of the AFL Football Writer of The AFL every year for the last few years..... :roll:

Ignorance is bliss.



.. ..she is..?.. ..she has..??.. ..well i'll be.. ..exactly what i'll be, i won't know until i spit the foot that's currently halfway down my throat.. ..heh, i'll remember to clip my toenails next time.. ..but i must say, that many of her articles are quite un-inspiring, and i always do tend to read the papers with a grasp on who actually owns the paper.. ..and let's face it, with such un-inspiring subject matter and a year 10 english exam essay layout to that particular article it's hard to fathom her earnin' any awards.. ..obviously, sports journo's aren't riskin' life and limb on the frontline of any warzones, so they're not gonna be writing news articles that truely make a difference..

..it's just a dodgey topic i guess, and dodgey cos it was handled badly from the cfc side of it, but really if she's gonna go reportin' on the misconduct of football player's she need look no further than the tiger's own backyard..

..((..mebbe she 'earned' her awards the ol' fashioned way..??..haha..))..


Caro virtually "grew up" at the Richmond F.C; as her Father, Ian Wilson was Club President in the most successful period of the Club's history encompassing the legendary teams coached by Tommy Hafey that fought Carlton for VFL supremacy in the late 60's and 70's; during which time Richmond won 5 Flags; including 1980 which was coached by Tony Jewell; which wrecked our chance of winning 4 Flags in a row..... :evil:

There's no doubt she has many "in" sources of info at Football Clubs and at AFL level....and also.....including her Husband Brendan Donohue who is State Political Reporter for the 7 Network.

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Carlton is getting its act together, big time, and very quickly , from all reports. I'd say that this was significant given we were reported to be rabble, basket case, unfixable, etc, etc. Getting Pratt and then Swann were absolute coups. I think the Swann situation was played brilliantly. Most people thought Cook was the target. Credit where credits due.


Agree with that completely Anfield (and even Wilson admites in her article today that Carlton "landed the off-field coup of the seasonby poaching Greg Swann from Collingwood").

My point is that what Wilson writes is generally on the money, regardless of which club or player it's about. She, like a lot of the rest of the media in this country, loves to focus on the sensationalist story, which are almost always 'negative' stories. The media goes crazy on stories of drugs in sport, depression, gambling, family fights, children overboard, lunching with dodgy businessmen, rock stars affairs...

So, she will find the sensationalist story, and she will write about it. There has been of negatives to write about at Carlton over the last 5 years, so we are fair game. As the Club has been fair game for supporters on this website.

When we getour own house in order, she will stop writing about us. Instead, she will go back to writing about the mother of a player who had a $5 bet.


Yes but and this is what my main point is (i think!). She will always find something negative to say about CFC no matter how well we put our house in order. There will always be something that she will find , manafacture, exaggerate, in order to belittle CFC. Thus if we win the flag, turn a profit, break membership records she will find a negative - something like 'yes the Blues have achived much but at what cost" type of thing.The mere whiff of scandal or error at Carlton get her excited and off into print. Its like one day I was at Princes Park and we were creaming the Bulldogs and their supporters were screaming that Silvagin was 'shit', and Kernehan 'youre shit,' etc, etc. Its this one-eyed myopic view that I find dissapointing Siegfried. This is not to denigrate her achievements as a football writer. I just think she has a massive problem with Carlton that has been ingrained into her from birth.


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And CFC is still bagging Wilson through various forums, private discussions, pub debates and the occasional abuse at B&F nights.

it seems the universe remains in order!

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I just think she has a massive problem with Carlton that has been ingrained into her from birth.



Its her birth that is the problem. :roll:

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AGRO wrote:
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I just think she has a massive problem with Carlton that has been ingrained into her from birth.



Its her birth that is the problem. :roll:



cruel but fair :shock:

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She will always find something negative to say about CFC no matter how well we put our house in order. There will always be something that she will find , manafacture, exaggerate, in order to belittle CFC.


Am curious, Anfield, just for the sake of a good debate...

Can you give me one example of a story she has written about CFC that wasn't true?

I grant you that this is a time when there is a lot of positive to write about CFC, and as has been noted already on this site, there has been heaps of positive press lately, and she chose to focus on the negative.

I still maintain, however, that that is her style, and the reason why we have copped it more than other clubs is because we had more rubbish going on than other clubs, and we will all agree with that. It might seem as though she is picking on us, but she'll pick on anyone when it comes to a sensationalist story.

I can not think of one story she has written about Carlton that wasn't accurate.

Life is about understanding what is in one's control, and what is outside of one's control. When we get our house in order, then she will stop writing stories about us, and she will pick on someone else.

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Accurate????

It's not a matter of her being accurate or not it's the way she portrays the club.

eg. If you were to say to Carro that hairstyle really does not bring out your feminine features, that would be a nice way of saying Carro maybe it would be time for a new hair do.

But if you were to say Carro that do is f#$##%n dog ugly it makes your face look like agros under carrige, now both are accurate but which one do you think Carro would like.

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She said Denis would no longer be coach by round 1. :oops:


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Caro gets blamed for what she writes but mostly she is on the mark.

Lance's escapades have been an embarassment and disgrace to the club. If he didnt let the club know that he was going to court thats worse. I wish Stevo was captain to be honest.

She may like to sink the boot into carlton but she isnt unfair. The things that she has written about have been fair game.

Don't shoot the messenger.

You guys going on about her looks and whether or not she got the awards "the old fashioned way" shows that most of the issues is that its a woman haveing at a go at the club that upsets you

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Caro gets blamed for what she writes but mostly she is on the mark.

Lance's escapades have been an embarassment and disgrace to the club. If he didnt let the club know that he was going to court thats worse. I wish Stevo was captain to be honest.

so do many of us...

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Siegfried wrote:
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She will always find something negative to say about CFC no matter how well we put our house in order. There will always be something that she will find , manafacture, exaggerate, in order to belittle CFC.


Am curious, Anfield, just for the sake of a good debate...

Can you give me one example of a story she has written about CFC that wasn't true?

I grant you that this is a time when there is a lot of positive to write about CFC, and as has been noted already on this site, there has been heaps of positive press lately, and she chose to focus on the negative.

I still maintain, however, that that is her style, and the reason why we have copped it more than other clubs is because we had more rubbish going on than other clubs, and we will all agree with that. It might seem as though she is picking on us, but she'll pick on anyone when it comes to a sensationalist story.

I can not think of one story she has written about Carlton that wasn't accurate.

Life is about understanding what is in one's control, and what is outside of one's control. When we get our house in order, then she will stop writing stories about us, and she will pick on someone else.


Its not an issue of accuracy for me but I will take your 'pepsi' challenge and report back in due course. For me its about using her column(s) as a forum to push an anti-carlton agenda. lance is the latest. I mean really, its a personal family issue not a crucial footballing issue. And if they media wasnt so personality driven with its news reporting we wouldnt be reading about it. The langauge that she has used and continues to use to frame whats going on at the club or at least what she thinks is going reinforces (that despite appearences and actions to the contrary) CFC is still a joke. We are on the way back big time but she will always find a negative to frame the club as still be a hopeless unorganised rabble. You want a real story? How about she write a column on how Wallace reckons the Tigers wont be competitive til 2011. 2011? He's already rolling out the excuses.


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I don't know what Tom Hanks liked in this guy.


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When the captain of one of the leagues premier football clubs is embroiled in a crazy off-field drama like the one Lance finds himself in, it is going to be newsworthy. The Age were not the only one giving the case attention. I think that Wilson was on the money with her comments. Maybe she speculated a little in relation to "how Lance has dealt with it", but in general she is exploring this saga.

We should be pissed with Lance in all this, he should never have accepted the job with so many personal issues plaguing him. Lance has proven that he needs all his wits about him to compete at AFL level and this saga seems to me to have proven to distract him to the point where he was pretty much useless throughout the NAB Cup (although I have only seen the Essendon* and North Melbourne games - I listened to the rest).

I think that CFC are doing a wonderful job increasing the positive vibe around the place, the last thing our captain should be doing is giving the media any ammunition to write stories like this.

I personally believe that Lance should have stood down as captain while this saga unfolded, I think that would have proved him to be a true leader.

And I think that she is right in her conclusion, Lance really owes the club a huge game in round 1 and the rest of the season for that matter.

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Wilson only writes about off field because her knowledge of the on field stuff is zip.


No, she writes about the off-field stuff because that is her area of expertise, and what she is employed to do. TheAge has other writers to write about the on-field stuff.

She is good at what she does, clearly the best journo re off-field matters.

Frankly, if all some people can do is slag off at her because she is not a supermodel, it perhaps says something about the limited outlook of such people. The fact that you may not like what she writes does not mean it is not newsworthy or worth writing about.

Clearly articles about the CFC are still extremely newsworthy, given the circumstances, previous and recent history, and latent support base.


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But Robbo's jumping on our bandwagon ( SEN tonight).

That'll buckle the front wheel for a year or 2.

BUGGER!! :(

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Wilson only writes about off field because her knowledge of the on field stuff is zip.


No, she writes about the off-field stuff because that is her area of expertise, and what she is employed to do. TheAge has other writers to write about the on-field stuff.

She is good at what she does, clearly the best journo re off-field matters.

Frankly, if all some people can do is slag off at her because she is not a supermodel, it perhaps says something about the limited outlook of such people. The fact that you may not like what she writes does not mean it is not newsworthy or worth writing about.

Clearly articles about the CFC are still extremely newsworthy, given the circumstances, previous and recent history, and latent support base.


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She said Denis would no longer be coach by round 1. :oops:


Err get off her back anyone can be wrong!.......... :oops:

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Wilson only writes about off field because her knowledge of the on field stuff is zip.


No, she writes about the off-field stuff because that is her area of expertise, and what she is employed to do. TheAge has other writers to write about the on-field stuff.

She is good at what she does, clearly the best journo re off-field matters.

Frankly, if all some people can do is slag off at her because she is not a supermodel, it perhaps says something about the limited outlook of such people. The fact that you may not like what she writes does not mean it is not newsworthy or worth writing about.

Clearly articles about the CFC are still extremely newsworthy, given the circumstances, previous and recent history, and latent support base.

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