Would not expect Simmonds and Stafford to be up forward at the same time given the run we would generate.

Livo on Stafford and Thornton on Richo. Saddington onto Richardson and Thornton onto Simmonds when he goes forward. Simmonds was too mobile for Livo when playing for Freo back in 2004.

Carrazzo V Coughlan
Bentick V Tuck
Simpson V Tivendale
Stevens V Johnson
Houlihan V Tambling
McGrath V Deledio

Just hope we don't let Bowden play as the loose man

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Saddington has taken Livo's spot on the tall forwards , Livo's only chance is to play on power forwards

Thornton has done a wonderful job on Richo in the past. I think he will get him!

So many football commentators have suggested that if Carlton want to win games, Whitnall has to be played up forward.

I believe his contribution and performance down back has been fantastic, however he reminded us last week how dangerous he can be up forward.

First, a team has to kick goals to win a match. Then they must defend.

Whitts in the forward line. Let's put the pressure on the Tiges from the start and not vice versa.

We'll win this one GO THE BAGGERS!

Brown to be rested according to channel Eddie. Wont play again unitl pain subsides

The stats seem to suggest that the premiership teams have a very stable and often brilliant defensive unit. Defence tends to win premierships rather than forward lines. West Coast almost pinched a premiership without any recognised forward whatsoever.

If i was Wallace, J.Bowden would be playing off Deluca.

T-Bird on Richo
Carrazzo on Deledio
Walker on P.Bowden
Saddles on Resting Ruckman
McGrath on Smalls

The rest to take them on.

Forward line:

Waite, Whitnall, Fisher
Betts, Fev, Murph

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True. But would they have played in a grandfinal if their midfield wasn't so attacking?

They still outscored their opponents. We often struggle to put up a decent score.

[color=brown]Anyone want to see Pagan give Teague the opportunity to make up for last years game on Stafford? He couldn'rt be that silly ever again ....or could he?[/color]

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How many goals did Stafford kick again?

Five?

Seven?

Twelve?

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I think those who still bring up the name Livo need to forget it, becuase i dont think Livo will ever play seniors unless its dead set desperate, and even then, i think Denis doesnt like him much and has already made up his mind that he will go end of year....


Its a Frustrating situation... Whitnall has proved that he is the best forward player at the Club... by far better than Fevola and all the goals he kicks.. Whitnall has a brain that no AFL footballer has... he was such a dominanet target upforward......


people forgot the Whitnall-Fevola combination..... We were all dreaming to see this one Day, but since the day Denis took over, We rarely seen these two play together.....

i know Waite and fisher are important, BUT that should not be an excuse to put lance in Defence.... he is a Waste there..... he wont stop the big forwards, nor will he help in any way......

DENIS is playing a very conservative kind of footy this year, to the extent that he is willing to conceed Deafeat before the ball is tossed.....

Our kids are not that poor... they have proved already that they can play one on one and can match it with the best, SO why doesnt the coach have enough faith in them???


The flooding must stop.....every team floods but within reason... We are the only team that are playing sideways with short kicks, and are the only team that has not a single forward in the 50m......and all the extra men we had on friday night were ineffective.....


Play fevola and whitnall out of the goal square, put waite on CHF, fisher and bets as Crumbers, and leave Deluca in the bench as a back up....

start with Thornton on richo, and leave Saddington and walker to play on other talls, and see how it goes for the first Quarter... if it doesnt work, then bring lance back... but at least give him a chance to continue his good Fortune of last week...

Sounds reasonable to me.

Apart from the Wizard Cup last year and maybe the 4th Qtr against Essendon* it clearly hasn't worked, thats why we haven't seen it. I think Lance's best position is probably full-forward now. If he can out think his opponant and get into some space then he's dangerous.

You could at times move Fevola onto the ball, with Lance to full-forward for some shock tactics for 10mins and pinch a couple of goals.

Anytime Fevola is out Lance should play forward.

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Agree wholeheartedly, give the man a spot on the selection panel......now!!!

Whitnall is great in defense. Smartest footballer going around.

Whitnall is an even better forward; anywhere on the forwardline.

I wish we had two Whitnalls ATM.

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Tiger forward line is ordinary Richo will be beaten by Thornton Walker will get Pettifer and Saddington to play on Bowden who can be dangerous.Whitnall up forward all out attack.Saddo was good on Dickson last week.

With Fev and Waite back Lance will play Back and probably should, although a forward Lance is a vision I like seeing. Livingston and Bannister both clearly need to come in after sure ball handling and great defensive work in the two's. For me Saddington needs to be dropped, he has done nothing, looked sloppy and lacks skills. If its just that he is coming back from injury then put him in the two's to build up some confidence.

For mine:

Ins: Fevola, Waite, Bannister, Livingston

Out: Setanta, Russell, Teague, Saddington

McLaren must be close to being dropped... I'd like to see Bryan given a go, to me he seems to have more to offer, McLaren is too short to be ruck and doesnt get enough of the ball and not good enough to play KP.

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i reckon saddo has been more than handy, considering his limited preseason. i feel a lot safer with the ball in saddo's hands than i do livo's unfortunatley. although i tink livo was stiff to get dropped in the first place and i thought he was going okay.

Saddo also provides a lot more flexibility and is more attacking that livo when he has the ball.

As for Mclaren, i think he has done reasonably well too. he's never going to rip games apart but he is the only other genuine ruck on the list and is providing a good contest when he's on, allowing french a spell.

i would't drop either.

I'd bring in Fev, Waite and consider Bannister for russell (either or)

Drop Teague, Setanta

Got a good midfield have the Tigers and plenty of tall options up forward...
Not so keen on Walker vs Richo..Richo is a bigger unit than Croad and we might be getting carried away giving AW jobs on bigger players every week because the players who should be handling them are not capable..

I would run Walker in the midfield on Shane Tuck who is one of their engine room players..

Bentick on Coughlan

Carazzo on Deledio...we need someone quick...

Stevens v Johnson...they can run wide and I will back Stevens although I expect Stevens to be tagged...

Scotland v Pettifer...


Whitnall down forward would probably attract Joel Bowden which would suit Richmond as Bowden will probably get 25+ possies....Lance might do some damage but I reckon Wallace would gamble that Bowden will do equal plus more in return..

If Stafford and Simmonds play forward I think you would have to look at Mclaren to match up on them....pinch hitting with 190-192cm players wont work....

Saddington on P Bowden...similar types
Thornton or Livo on Richo
Whitnall perhaps on Jackson..Lance might be able to exploit the younger Jackson and get some easy possies....
Bannister in as insurance and to give us some options if Walker is needed down back....

I would expect us to win this game with Fev and Waite returning...

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The quest to have a permanent FB is a necassary one. I wish Livo was that person to hold FB, but obviously his position with the MC is a precarious one. Bringing in Livo and dropping Saddo is a no no IMO.

Sure Saddington is finding his feet, but he still is an experienced campaigner, tall, mobile and along and has done a good job (given where he's come from this year with the injury interuption) and with Thornton we have two of them that are tall and mobile. He's even more important to us when Whitnall goes forward for team balance.

Don't confuse the issue that it's out of Saddo or Livo for FB. You would find that if Livo did come in Saddo would be retained.

Saddo should be a permanent feature of our backline in 2006 and 2007 barring injury or a drop in confidence.

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I think Livo has the bulk and ability to push and shove with bigger players..Saddington is very much in the Michael Sexton mode and doesnt enjoy body on body work with bulky players...
Saddington is a ok footballer and for pick 53 was fair enough but like Mclaren wont be taking us very far and is very much a list fill player until someone develops ie Bower and Hartlett or we recruit the real deal.

re: Livo...thought he was ok vs Williamstown and is looking more comfortable in his role down back....better decsion making and disposal as well.....I dont think he will learn that much playing in the twos and I think its all or nothing for him and I would have him in the seniors at FB and persist until we get a result either way....5 seasons is a long apprenticeship and its time to see if he can deliver.....

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