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PostPosted: Thu May 28, 2026 10:35 pm 
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Effes wrote:
Should Williams be involved?

I wouldn't have thought so… https://www.afl.com.au/news/60334/brownlow-medallist-greg-williams-cant-remember-large-chunks-of-playing-days

All time champion of the game but what's Diesel going to bring to the Coach selection process? Didn't he insist on Voss last time we sacked a coach.

Not that I think Voss was all bad, and who could have known either way?


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PostPosted: Fri May 29, 2026 10:09 am 
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GreatEx wrote:
Effes wrote:
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Carlton’s panel to select its next coach:

Graham Wright
Chris Davies
Adam Simpson
Rob Priestley

They’ll also consult with director Greg Williams.


Reading Priestley's letter, I got the sense that the first four will make the decision and they'll tell Diesel before making it public. Just a token involvement to spare his feelings. Thankfully, his judgement won't be called upon.
It's a head pat for him.


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PostPosted: Fri May 29, 2026 3:00 pm 
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Sidefx wrote:
Didn't Keogh want an 'astute footballer' on the panel to pick the coach.


https://x.com/1116sen/status/2059940814357479862


Thanks for sharing that. :thumbsup:

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PostPosted: Sat May 30, 2026 9:21 am 
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No outside presence on selection panel
Disappointed but not surprised
Diesel involved
@#$%&! me


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PostPosted: Sat May 30, 2026 10:44 am 
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keogh wrote:
No outside presence on selection panel
Disappointed but not surprised
Diesel involved
@#$%&! me


Keogh why are you so miserable. FFS give it a rest. :banghead:

Adam Simpson started part time work with Calrton in Nov 2025 so he has been there 6 months. Is he not an outside person? He was bought in to be THAT outside person.

1st you spewed bile on Priestly being on the Panel, but after I suggested why he was there, you backed away and had a change of heart.

Then you spew bile on Williams. He is the footy guy on the Board so that makes some sense to report back to the Board.

Now you want an outside person (excluding Simpson apparently) but I note you haven't named anyone. The Club has had outside people in the past and that choice failed. The great Angelos Postecoglou had a pick once upon a time.

Why don't you just name you ultimate selection panel and we can all have a chat about it.

Your train of though is why they invented the old adage...................'Don't give me problems, give me solutions."

Also, can you tell us all just how may wins the Club has to have before it is nolonger a sugar hit?

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PostPosted: Sat May 30, 2026 10:52 am 
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lol Keogh take a chill pill.

Diesel doesn’t know what day it is, he’ll be like the toddler who gets the unplugged game controller.

It’ll be Graham Wright and Chris Davies. The rest are there just for optics.


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PostPosted: Sat May 30, 2026 12:22 pm 
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If it’s left to Graham Wright and Chris Davies
Fine
It wasn’t last time
The board or more importantly Diesel wanted Voss
Fact Cazzeman
Sugar hit
Still is
I want a four year period of sustained success
In the top 4 to 6 teams for 4 years or so
With luck and form snag a flag
3 wins join the circle jerk group


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PostPosted: Sat May 30, 2026 12:23 pm 
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Jimmy Bartel instead of Priestley and Simpson


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PostPosted: Sat May 30, 2026 12:36 pm 
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keogh wrote:
If it’s left to Graham Wright and Chris Davies
Fine
It wasn’t last time
The board or more importantly Diesel wanted Voss
Fact Cazzeman
Sugar hit
Still is
I want a four year period of sustained success
In the top 4 to 6 teams for 4 years or so
With luck and form snag a flag
3 wins join the circle jerk group


Good ol' misery guts

How do you know this season isn't the start of your "4 years or so period"?

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PostPosted: Sat May 30, 2026 12:44 pm 
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keogh wrote:
If it’s left to Graham Wright and Chris Davies
Fine
It wasn’t last time
The board or more importantly Diesel wanted Voss
Fact Cazzeman
Sugar hit
Still is
I want a four year period of sustained success
In the top 4 to 6 teams for 4 years or so
With luck and form snag a flag
3 wins join the circle jerk group

Destress don't watch. The French Open is on presently with Wimbledon on soon. Might be more of your cup of java.

Just an observation, you have a unique talent, as in you could start a fight in an empty house.

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PostPosted: Sat May 30, 2026 2:39 pm 
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keogh wrote:
Jimmy Bartel instead of Priestley and Simpson


There is a name plucked out. Bartel is an ex player and media mouthpiece now. What makes his opinion better than Simpson as a Dual Premiership player (306 games) and Premiership Coach.

Just for the stats minded folk here - Simpson Coached 242 games with 122 wins, 119 losses, and 1 draw. He served as the senior coach of the West Coast Eagles from 2014 to 2024, leading the team to an AFL premiership in 2018. I might add he has also seen the inner workings of the club and the playing group for the past 6 months.

How many AFL games has Bartel Coached that gives him the knowledge of what is required to Coach an AFL team 24/7/365.

Why do you keep including Priestly in your put down. I already explained why I think he needs to be part of the process as President of the Club. Do you now disagree with my explanation, and if so, why?

If it’s left to Graham Wright and Chris Davies Fine

Weren't you critical of Wright retaining Voss at the end of 2025? And yet now you are happy with him picking the next Coach.

Keogh, more and more you are coming across as just and angry man shouting at the clouds.

Chances are Geelong will play off in atleast a Prelim this year. They were in red hot form with a strong team. The Blues just came from 3 goals down at 1/4 time to snatch a brilliant victory. What is that not to get excited about in the short term. You want continued success. Surely that starts with wins and then wins against a very good opposition.

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PostPosted: Sat May 30, 2026 2:50 pm 
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The buck stops with the CEO and President so they need to be involved in the decision making.


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PostPosted: Sat May 30, 2026 4:55 pm 
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Juanita Jones wrote:
The buck stops with the CEO and President so they need to be involved in the decision making.


100 % . I"d be filthy if they weren't involved .

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PostPosted: Sun May 31, 2026 9:31 am 
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https://www.theage.com.au/sport/afl/the-afl-s-kingmakers-how-the-next-premiership-coach-will-be-found-20260527-p601b5.html

Really interesting article about how clubs select their coach selection panels and their coaches.

This is a pretty extraordinary stat..

“Since 2004, only Mick Malthouse, in 2010 with Collingwood, has won a flag with a club that was not his first. Of the 60 preliminary finalists since 2011, only four were coached by men at a second club – Malthouse (2011), Lyon (Fremantle 2013 and 2015) and Michael Voss (Carlton 2023).”

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PostPosted: Sun May 31, 2026 9:37 am 
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With Arne Slot sacking, Liverpool have highlighted how successful clubs, participating in professional sports, need to be brutal to keep being successful.

As supporters we hate losing our own like Arne, but the Club comes first, and he failed in his 2nd year - not acceptable.


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PostPosted: Sun May 31, 2026 9:43 am 
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Poor Annie


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PostPosted: Sun May 31, 2026 11:30 am 
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GWS wrote:
https://www.theage.com.au/sport/afl/the-afl-s-kingmakers-how-the-next-premiership-coach-will-be-found-20260527-p601b5.html

Really interesting article about how clubs select their coach selection panels and their coaches.

This is a pretty extraordinary stat..

“Since 2004, only Mick Malthouse, in 2010 with Collingwood, has won a flag with a club that was not his first. Of the 60 preliminary finalists since 2011, only four were coached by men at a second club – Malthouse (2011), Lyon (Fremantle 2013 and 2015) and Michael Voss (Carlton 2023).”

Was just reading that article. Great article with good insights about having to coach with a two break to decide their decision making in a simulater match situation.

Surely Horse is a lock for Tassie or a club with a less aggressive supporter base...

Essendon* and Carlton will eat him alive like Mick and Worsfold.


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PostPosted: Sun May 31, 2026 12:07 pm 
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Kouta wrote:

Essendon** and Carlton will eat him alive like Mick and Worsfold.


Kouta if you think that would be the case for Horse, a battle-hardened Coach...........what would happen to a newbie? :eek:

We have all seen both sides. Malthouse vs Teague. Pagan vs Bolton.

The desire for instant gratification is now ingrained in society. If you polled the members and you told them the team would play off in a GF in 3, 4 or 5 years, would they be happy to hear that?

3 Sure. 4 Maybe. 5 I'm off to do something else.

You only have to look at the fan base here on TC from one week to the next. There's posts based on Passion. Posts based on Rational thinking and then there is the mandatory..........."Sack everyone, it's all @#$%.'

3 weeks later all is forgiven..............mostly :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

I'm pretty happy with the Selection Panel. I think all bases are covered.

As a slight curve ball, I would add Travis Boak to the mix. The game evolves so quickly, I think having a recently retired player, who has done the hard yards, can help to sort a Coaches 'fact from fiction' i.e. what a Coaches game plan looks like measured against a players real world perception of what is achievable.

I don't think Williams needs to be in the room. He can monitor the conversation from elsewhere.

Graham Wright, Rob Priestley, Chris Davies, Adam Simpson and Travis Boak. Davies, Simpson and Boak have only had 6 months at the club, so I consider them more outsiders than in.

Regards Cazzesman

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PostPosted: Sun May 31, 2026 12:45 pm 
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SurreyBlue wrote:
With Arne Slot sacking, Liverpool have highlighted how successful clubs, participating in professional sports, need to be brutal to keep being successful.

As supporters we hate losing our own like Arne, but the Club comes first, and he failed in his 2nd year - not acceptable.


See Robert Walls Flag in '87, sacked in Rnd 10 in '89. Jezza '79 Premiership came back, sacked end of '90.

We were ruthless back in those days.

Sackings didnt necessarily turn around our fortunes.

There's a good argument that fresh ideas make fresh game plans and they beat old game plans. The numbers don't lie.

Get Longmire. :eek:

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PostPosted: Sun May 31, 2026 12:47 pm 
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GWS wrote:
https://www.theage.com.au/sport/afl/the-afl-s-kingmakers-how-the-next-premiership-coach-will-be-found-20260527-p601b5.html

Really interesting article about how clubs select their coach selection panels and their coaches.

This is a pretty extraordinary stat..

“Since 2004, only Mick Malthouse, in 2010 with Collingwood, has won a flag with a club that was not his first. Of the 60 preliminary finalists since 2011, only four were coached by men at a second club – Malthouse (2011), Lyon (Fremantle 2013 and 2015) and Michael Voss (Carlton 2023).”



That proves young ideas are new ideas and new game plans designed to conquer old game plans

Really admired the Richmond Game Plan. Pay Dusty whatever he wants.

Same can be said about Pagan's Game Plan: Leave the whole forwardline to Carey, one on one.

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