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PostPosted: Wed May 27, 2026 7:52 pm 
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So whilst I assume GW and CD are doing a lot of work behind the scenes, when can we expect interviews to start?
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PostPosted: Wed May 27, 2026 8:04 pm 
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Jon Ralph is not quite as bad as Jay Clark, but close.

Essendon** have shown absolute @#$%&! all this year. I guess if you were a senior coach looking for basically a blank slate they'd appeal.


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PostPosted: Thu May 28, 2026 8:46 am 
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I wonder if the youth delusion Essendon* have subscribed to has its origins in the early 00's when video game series like Pro Evo Soccer implemented multi-season manager mode, where you run a team over 5-10 years and build a dynasty. The winning formula was always to scout the market for promising 18 year olds, then give them as much game time as possible. Some would blossom into world class, some would just grow to be very good, but improvement was guaranteed either way. Bringing in players over 28yo was money down the drain.

Over the past 20 years, many clubs in many sports - particularly in leagues with drafts - have fallen into the trap of thinking young players will always improve. The reality is that some peak early, some lose their way, others get used to losing and just treat it as a job.

I can't actually think of any Essendon* youngster who has definitely "got it". Even Caddy's moments are ephemeral.


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PostPosted: Thu May 28, 2026 12:14 pm 
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I wonder if the youth delusion Essendon** have subscribed to has its origins in the early 00's when video game series like Pro Evo Soccer implemented multi-season manager mode, where you run a team over 5-10 years and build a dynasty. The winning formula was always to scout the market for promising 18 year olds, then give them as much game time as possible. Some would blossom into world class, some would just grow to be very good, but improvement was guaranteed either way. Bringing in players over 28yo was money down the drain.

Over the past 20 years, many clubs in many sports - particularly in leagues with drafts - have fallen into the trap of thinking young players will always improve. The reality is that some peak early, some lose their way, others get used to losing and just treat it as a job.

I can't actually think of any Essendon** youngster who has definitely "got it". Even Caddy's moments are ephemeral.

I reckon that Robey is a classic Waterhouse 2yo. Just happened to be bigger than the rest & probably flames out early.

I see that the Scum’s presence in the #news cycle has got them a ticket in the Walter raffle. “Promised land within 10 years”… Ten flower years. Imagine having to hold yourself together as a bash & crash key forward to fulfill a ten year, three coach plan.

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PostPosted: Thu May 28, 2026 2:12 pm 
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I wonder if the youth delusion Essendon*** have subscribed to has its origins in the early 00's when video game series like Pro Evo Soccer implemented multi-season manager mode, where you run a team over 5-10 years and build a dynasty. The winning formula was always to scout the market for promising 18 year olds, then give them as much game time as possible. Some would blossom into world class, some would just grow to be very good, but improvement was guaranteed either way. Bringing in players over 28yo was money down the drain.

Over the past 20 years, many clubs in many sports - particularly in leagues with drafts - have fallen into the trap of thinking young players will always improve. The reality is that some peak early, some lose their way, others get used to losing and just treat it as a job.

I can't actually think of any Essendon*** youngster who has definitely "got it". Even Caddy's moments are ephemeral.

I reckon that Robey is a classic Waterhouse 2yo. Just happened to be bigger than the rest & probably flames out early.

I see that the Scum’s presence in the #news cycle has got them a ticket in the Walter raffle. “Promised land within 10 years”… Ten flower years. Imagine having to hold yourself together as a bash & crash key forward to fulfill a ten year, three coach plan.


Well I reckon the bash and crash Jed Walter would have suited Vossy"s game plan beautifully . Walter runs straight and rather than brace for contact actually accelerates into them . He relishes the physicality .

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PostPosted: Thu May 28, 2026 2:58 pm 
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Mickstar wrote:
Crusader wrote:
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I wonder if the youth delusion Essendon**** have subscribed to has its origins in the early 00's when video game series like Pro Evo Soccer implemented multi-season manager mode, where you run a team over 5-10 years and build a dynasty. The winning formula was always to scout the market for promising 18 year olds, then give them as much game time as possible. Some would blossom into world class, some would just grow to be very good, but improvement was guaranteed either way. Bringing in players over 28yo was money down the drain.

Over the past 20 years, many clubs in many sports - particularly in leagues with drafts - have fallen into the trap of thinking young players will always improve. The reality is that some peak early, some lose their way, others get used to losing and just treat it as a job.

I can't actually think of any Essendon**** youngster who has definitely "got it". Even Caddy's moments are ephemeral.

I reckon that Robey is a classic Waterhouse 2yo. Just happened to be bigger than the rest & probably flames out early.

I see that the Scum’s presence in the #news cycle has got them a ticket in the Walter raffle. “Promised land within 10 years”… Ten flower years. Imagine having to hold yourself together as a bash & crash key forward to fulfill a ten year, three coach plan.


Well I reckon the bash and crash Jed Walter would have suited Vossy"s game plan beautifully . Walter runs straight and rather than brace for contact actually accelerates into them . He relishes the physicality .

I’m with you Mick. He’s right up Vossy’s alley.

From his point of view though, with that game style, he needs to squeeze 10-12 years worth of earnings into 5-7 years.

And the pitch from the Scum, if the talking heads are ever to hit the bullseye, is to come & challenge for a flag in 10 years time. If you can hold yourself together.

@#$%&! that.

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PostPosted: Thu May 28, 2026 4:55 pm 
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Voss game plan is bash and crash - first I've heard of this....


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Carlton’s panel to select its next coach:

Graham Wright
Chris Davies
Adam Simpson
Rob Priestley

They’ll also consult with director Greg Williams.

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PostPosted: Thu May 28, 2026 5:28 pm 
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Should Williams be involved?

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PostPosted: Thu May 28, 2026 5:33 pm 
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Effes wrote:
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Carlton’s panel to select its next coach:

Graham Wright
Chris Davies
Adam Simpson
Rob Priestley

They’ll also consult with director Greg Williams.


Well I hope they find him real quick coz need replacement for Curly Jnr and Agresta . A good coach would want to be involved in the selection of there replacements . That's of course we may have those replacements already signed up on the quiet . No leaks coming out of that place lately .

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PostPosted: Thu May 28, 2026 5:35 pm 
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Effes wrote:
Should Williams be involved?

Being Footy Director , yes .

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PostPosted: Thu May 28, 2026 5:45 pm 
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https://x.com/ESPNAusNZ/status/2059501885514473875

18th for the bomb, bomb, bomb?

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PostPosted: Thu May 28, 2026 5:50 pm 
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Hornet, you beauty
This is a great find.

That's a huge change over a small sample, but a sample nonetheless.

The Evolution of the Original Master Plan is what they will be saying if we make 10th this year.

No doubt the next coach will have his own Game Plan.

Enjoy the ride. :smoking:

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https://x.com/ESPNAusNZ/status/2059501885514473875

18th for the bomb, bomb, bomb?

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Hornet wrote:
https://x.com/ESPNAusNZ/status/2059501885514473875

18th for the bomb, bomb, bomb?


Those stats guarantee the Cats are gonna press up on us big time . Close down the space . We might have to go long bomb again to get out of the press . Don't think Fraser will sit there and cop it . He seems to have good tactical nous . Reckon he will have something up his sleeve .

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PostPosted: Thu May 28, 2026 5:54 pm 
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Mickstar wrote:
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Should Williams be involved?

Being Footy Director , yes .


If he remains Footy Director, I agree. He's just having a peak to report to Board Members whilst also comfortable the process and progress is satisfactory.

Other than that, he should allow GW to drive our on field team forward with CD.

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PostPosted: Thu May 28, 2026 6:00 pm 
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bondiblue wrote:
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Should Williams be involved?

Being Footy Director , yes .


If he remains Footy Director, I agree. He's just having a peak to report to Board Members whilst also comfortable the process and progress is satisfactory.

Other than that, he should allow GW to drive our on field team forward with CD.


That's the thing though Bondi . If he remains Footy Director . I hear people saying he's past it and not thinking clearly these days . Hope its BS . Hell I wish we had another past player on the Board .

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PostPosted: Thu May 28, 2026 6:12 pm 
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Mickstar wrote:
bondiblue wrote:
Mickstar wrote:
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Should Williams be involved?

Being Footy Director , yes .


If he remains Footy Director, I agree. He's just having a peak to report to Board Members whilst also comfortable the process and progress is satisfactory.

Other than that, he should allow GW to drive our on field team forward with CD.


That's the thing though Bondi . If he remains Footy Director . I hear people saying he's past it and not thinking clearly these days . Hope its BS . Hell I wish we had another past player on the Board .


I'm sure if he was not coherent as rumours in social media and footy forums (see TC), the Board would give him the tap on the shoulder.

I get why keogh is pissed off when he/ if he interfered with the last coaching selection ie vetoed the coaching panels' preference for Kingsley. But other than here from keogh I havent heard anything like that. Ive asked, and its news to everyone Ive asked. PS: I've never asked, nor do I know any of the Board Members. Its just a rumour to me.

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PostPosted: Thu May 28, 2026 8:37 pm 
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Hornet wrote:
https://x.com/ESPNAusNZ/status/2059501885514473875

18th for the bomb, bomb, bomb?

They got you good with those stats Hornet.
The first 5 rounds we were putrid.
But with a new game plan and 6 new players, logically it was going to take time.
So to position this as Voss v Fraser 2 games in, is just really good click bait.
If you watched the video I posted on the previous page from Daniel Hoyne you would understand.
For the last 6 weeks (4 Voss & 2 Fraser) we have been:
#1 Transition from D50 to F50
#1 Scoring from D50 to F50
#3 Uncontested marks
#3 45 degree kicks.

Of the stats from ESPN I can only find the stats for D50 to F50 (on Wheelo ratings) and that is as follows:
Last 10 weeks - #7th (25% average)
Last 5 weeks - #1 (33.7% average)

This is our game breakdown for that stat:
Round 0 - 13.3%
Round 1 - 16%
Round 3 - 19.6%
Round 4 - 27.3%
Round 5 - 11.9%
Round 6 - 18.4%
Round 7 - 26.7%
Round 8 - 45.2%
Round 9 - 31%
Round 10 - 33.3%
Round 11 - 33.3%

I am surprised I couldn't find an uncontested mark stat for all teams, however I found this.
We are number 5 for contested marks and number 10 for marks this season on AFL site.
And for example in Round 0 we took 69 marks, 8 of those were contested and 13 were intercept marks.

Logically, we have been building this game plan all season and it looks like it is finally working.
Fraser and all the interviewed players have all said this also.
The coaching team have been working tirelessly in the background building, changing and adapting all season, which is what we all wanted this year.
And both Voss and Fraser have been talking about consistency in every post game presser.
Because our achilles heel is consistency, accuracy and mental fortitude, hopefully we are building on those too.
This week is the big test to how far we have developed and how much this team has gelled.


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PostPosted: Thu May 28, 2026 9:11 pm 
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Didn't Keogh want an 'astute footballer' on the panel to pick the coach.


https://x.com/1116sen/status/2059940814357479862


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PostPosted: Thu May 28, 2026 10:05 pm 
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Carlton’s panel to select its next coach:

Graham Wright
Chris Davies
Adam Simpson
Rob Priestley

They’ll also consult with director Greg Williams.


Reading Priestley's letter, I got the sense that the first four will make the decision and they'll tell Diesel before making it public. Just a token involvement to spare his feelings. Thankfully, his judgement won't be called upon.


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